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Posted by THE_Chris on Feb-07-2008 23:19:

Binary Finary - 1998 (Possible PvD 2008 remix)

Reposting this purely for hilarity.

Guessing that this is a PvD remix. Not sure though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdK2WSeBygY


Discuss*





*earplugs recommended


Posted by LoveHate on Feb-07-2008 23:22:

im pretty sure its just a edit he uses just for his sets..

and if its not then oh dear..


Posted by djdk on Feb-07-2008 23:50:

deary me

where the fuck is the protoculture mix, thats what i want to know!!


Posted by DJ Patski on Feb-08-2008 00:15:

This is why I cannot get into PVD...


Posted by PezCore on Feb-08-2008 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
deary me

where the fuck is the protoculture mix, thats what i want to know!!


Dude, I've been waiting for this remix since I heard it at Eclipse festival last july, can't wait to put that in my CDJs and mix that sh*t !!


Posted by body125z on Feb-08-2008 02:48:

wtf he killed it


Posted by tc-fan on Feb-08-2008 06:47:

there is nothing to discuss..Its sucks ass...WTF did he do it on Mario Paint?


Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Feb-08-2008 08:11:

Needs some nice minimal remixes JPLS would have a field day with this.


Posted by Nostalgic on Feb-08-2008 08:35:

Horrid.


Posted by Nik Novo on Feb-08-2008 08:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva
Needs some nice minimal remixes


No.


Posted by Haak on Feb-08-2008 08:53:

Wtf did he do at the climax there? Forget to pull the fader up?


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Feb-08-2008 12:45:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
there is nothing to discuss..Its sucks ass...WTF did he do it on Mario Paint?


LMFAO


Posted by Simcut on Feb-08-2008 12:52:

Did we REALLY need ANOTHER remix of Binary Fucking Finary?

Sigh.

The original release was amazing with the PVD, Original & Matt Darey Mixes. I really liked the Gouryella Remix of '1999' and also the Marc et Claude Remix

But jesus, how many more fucking remixers? has Sean Tyas done it yet? LOL


Posted by sterilis on Feb-08-2008 13:34:


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-08-2008 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
But jesus, how many more fucking remixers? has Sean Tyas done it yet? LOL


don't give him any ideas


Posted by Massive84 on Feb-08-2008 14:37:

Hmm, this is a nice topic to ask the Djs something.

I amm a hobby producer, but i do want to dj in the future and will buy some equipment for it this summer.

My question is, why don't djs play the old tracks instead of remixing it over and over again? Infact most djs play only new things. Old things are like taboo. So what is up with that?

and ya that clip was really boring...


Posted by denys envy on Feb-08-2008 14:43:

all that whistling, hollering and hooting (not to mention reaching for the lasers) tells me that there are some out there that enjoy this track.

i'd like to hear a better sample/whole tune before i make any judgement. and we're probably way out of context judging something by a 5 min sample. no idea what was played before/after this and when during the night it was dropped. might've (not saying it did) worked at the time.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-08-2008 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
My question is, why don't djs play the old tracks instead of remixing it over and over again? Infact most djs play only new things. Old things are like taboo. So what is up with that?


Mainly because well known old tracks are just that: well known. DJs love dropping a familiar track with an unfamiliar mix. It gets a good reaction but simultaneously has the effect of a killer new tune. DJs have no problem dropping unknown old tracks.


Posted by RJT on Feb-08-2008 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Mainly because well known old tracks are just that: well known. DJs love dropping a familiar track with an unfamiliar mix. It gets a good reaction but simultaneously has the effect of a killer new tune. DJs have no problem dropping unknown old tracks.


I think this is probably the best explanation, but think it should be noted that there are a lot of guys out there who will indeed just drop a classic in all its original glory from time to time - and my experience has been that it always seems to go off at least as well, if not much better, than a lot of the new mixes.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-08-2008 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I think this is probably the best explanation, but think it should be noted that there are a lot of guys out there who will indeed just drop a classic in all its original glory from time to time - and my experience has been that it always seems to go off at least as well, if not much better, than a lot of the new mixes.


Agreed. There are two types of new mixes- some by producers who've genuinely found something new to do with an old track, and some by producers who just want to use the famous bit for effect. Unfortunately, the majority of remixes fall into this second category.


Posted by RJT on Feb-08-2008 22:00:

I've been trying to think of new versions of classics I've even really played, and the only one I can really think of is that Muskat Nuss mix of "Greece 2000" - I think Nils Noa did one a year or two back that I also thought was rather decent, but I'm not sure. Haven't heard it in ages.

The Buttrich mix of "Mad Monks on Zinc" was also in my bag for a bit, but nothing too special (and the "classic-ness" of MMoZ may well be disputed).


Posted by wotyzoid on Feb-08-2008 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
Hmm, this is a nice topic to ask the Djs something.

I amm a hobby producer, but i do want to dj in the future and will buy some equipment for it this summer.

My question is, why don't djs play the old tracks instead of remixing it over and over again? Infact most djs play only new things. Old things are like taboo. So what is up with that?

and ya that clip was really boring...



well I'm starting up as well, only one 'serious' gig so far, but i also think its massively ridiculous. If I do get anywhere some day the date on the record is definitely not ever effecting my judgment.


Posted by Kris G on Feb-08-2008 23:23:

What the hell is this?! Please tell me it's an amateur remix he played by mistake...


Posted by THE_Chris on Feb-09-2008 11:11:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
well I'm starting up as well, only one 'serious' gig so far, but i also think its massively ridiculous. If I do get anywhere some day the date on the record is definitely not ever effecting my judgment.


+1, I really cant understand why DJs (be it pro or amateur) rarely play the older stuff. Its about what a set sounds like, not when the record was released.

Hell if I was a DJ and was going to play an old track, I'd damn well play the original (or an underrated old remix) and be damned to the new versions, unless they're something special, which 99% are most certainly not.


Posted by isoterra on Feb-09-2008 11:44:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Its about what a set sounds like, not when the record was released.


those two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive...

in most cases old stuff sounds very different to new stuff; not musically but in terms of production dynamics. for instance back in the old days of trance the mixdowns were alot simpler & the kicks alot softer, the highs less sparkly & everything not-quite-so-perfectly balanced.. if you're going to *JUST* play old stuff then that shouldn't be a problem, but combining new & old has the potential to sound awkward unless you can pull it off properly...

this is the main reason you get artists like sean tyas/greg downey etc doing remixes of older tunes that barely change anything musically.. they want to play well-known tunes but the originals don't merge well amongst their usual stuff because the kicks are softer & the mixdowns aren't as populated.. etc.

of course that could lead us onto a whole other debate about dynamics within a set.. and how some djs manage it better than others. that and there are plenty of old tunes that still don't sound dated so by no means does this argument apply all the time my current dj wallet spans a good few years at least


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