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Changing The Keys Of Tracks

Hi. I need some help with an idea that I have and also would like your advice on this idea that I have. I have been playing around with software programs alot recently and got an idea and would like to see if I can make this work. What I want to try to do is change the key of some of the tracks that I have. These are tracks that I use for djing. A thought came to me that it would be cool to do this with certain tracks to help me program some of my sets. There are alot of tracks that I wish would go better with each other but because of the key diffrences they do not blend well. But I thought,'' what if I can change the key of the tracks with software''? What do you guys think. I have been djing for a while now but I am pretty new to using software. Right now I am using Cubase SE. If this can be done with the software I own, cool, but if not what is some other software that I could use to do this.
Thanks for the input!!

That's what Ableton Live is there for. It's built for dj'ing.

All the tracks timestretch, so you don't need to worry if one's at 140bpm and another is at 136bpm, they'll both play back at the master tempo you've set.

And you can pitch things up and down (change the key of the tracks) on the fly.

Try out a demo version, it should do everything you're looking for.

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Originally posted by derail That's what Ableton Live is there for. It's built for dj'ing. All the tracks timestretch, so you don't need to worry if one's at 140bpm and another is at 136bpm, they'll both play back at the master tempo you've set. And you can pitch things up and down (change the key of the tracks) on the fly. Try out a demo version, it should do everything you're looking for.

Yea, plus the "Scale" plug-in helps a lot with these sorts of functions.

Thanks! I will check that out. Do you know if you can change the key of the track and save it onto your hard drive like that with ableton? Thanks again for the replies.

Yep, you can just render the output to disk in .wav form once you're happy with it.

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh Yep, you can just render the output to disk in .wav form once you're happy with it.

Nice! Thanks for the help!

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Originally posted by phantom limb Yea, plus the "Scale" plug-in helps a lot with these sorts of functions.

where can u get the scale plugin?

cheers.

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Originally posted by trancey_spacer where can u get the scale plugin? cheers.

It's one of the built-in plugins in Live

I'm not getting this. Infinite supply of music, infinite supply of combinations. Generally an interesting mix is one that changes to a different key. Perhaps in a remix this would make sense but can't see it helping a mix from one track to another.

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Originally posted by Reno I'm not getting this. Infinite supply of music, infinite supply of combinations. Generally an interesting mix is one that changes to a different key. Perhaps in a remix this would make sense but can't see it helping a mix from one track to another.

There are some tracks that I would like to fit in certain places of my sets, but because of the key the track was made in, it won't allow me to place it there. I don't know if that will help you to better understand this. And yes, an interesting mix is one that changes keys. It would be boring to have a set full of tracks that are in the same key. But to start a set off with maybe 4 tracks that are in the same key and then lift the energy after the fourth track by changing the key might work out. I understand there is a ton of music out there (mostly crap) but what if I want to place a certain track in a cetain place with another track but can't because of the different keys? I don't know if this is something that would work or not but I do know I am all about breaking the rules and trying new things. After djing for roughly 6 years I am really starting to understand what keeping an open mind is all about. Hope this helps.

Rock On,

Mike

Fair enough don't knock it tell you tried it I guess. I always said I'd try anything once and its generally got me into trouble!!

Just seems like a lot of work to raise the key of an entire track without it faultering. Also next time you play the record at a different tempo, in theory it will be in a different key although I guess it doesn't matter since the next mix is at the same speed.

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Originally posted by Reno Fair enough don't knock it tell you tried it I guess. I always said I'd try anything once and its generally got me into trouble!! Just seems like a lot of work to raise the key of an entire track without it faultering. Also next time you play the record at a different tempo, in theory it will be in a different key although I guess it doesn't matter since the next mix is at the same speed.

Ha ha. Yes, lots of trouble! I can relate. By the way I checked out your music and it was pretty good! Nice work!!!

Mike EDIT: I went to your myspace and listened to more of your music and really liked Error Of Judgement. Awesome tune bro! Keep at it!!!

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Originally posted by Michael May Ha ha. Yes, lots of trouble! I can relate. By the way I checked out your music and it was pretty good! Nice work!!! Mike EDIT: I went to your myspace and listened to more of your music and really liked Error Of Judgement. Awesome tune bro! Keep at it!!!

Yeah I know - got your mail but this forum mail system is crap. I sent you a reply. All music available at mp3unsigned for free download (see my signature).

All that was done with Reason but really trying to get into the Cubase and Virus TI now. It's a big switch!!

laters

I do this occasionally, if a track is too slow to fit with the stuff i play, I use cubase pitch shift to knock it up a semitone without the time correction feature on. Speeds it up a few bpm and changes the key, no quality loss or anything.

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Originally posted by Reno Generally an interesting mix is one that changes to a different key.

If its a musical key change it can sound good, but also certain keys played over each other will sound dissonant and basically sound like ass...

can't the scale plugin in Ableton only be used in midi tracks, not audio ones?

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