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What is usually the songwriting process for Trance/electronica?

Does it just "flow as it goes" or does it take time like writing a rock song?

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Originally posted by dada402 Does it just "flow as it goes" or does it take time like writing a rock song?

its a bit like eating your dinner....you just dont know what the next bit is going to taste like!!

What kind of weird ass dinners do you eat?

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Originally posted by Project-K What kind of weird ass dinners do you eat?

the same as you ya plonker!!

Well, a lot of the so called minimal, electro and "tech-house" artists nowadays have it made. All they have to do is get on fruity loops, make a bunch of dings, dangs, bleeps bloops and burps (it doesn't really matter where the song is going) and some moron out there is going to like it.

At least it's a good way to make some extra cash if you need it.

I would say that getting on your way to making a "quality" production requires some experimenting until you develop a niche for what you're after - it doesn't just happen overnight. Don't think you need to meet a specific formula. Get inspired by a variety of different sounds and genres and incorporate them into what you're doing as you see fit. That's what made a lot of the older trance tracks so good, was the fact that they didn't follow so many predictable rules that we have today for the different styles.

And if you find that you're lacking a little money, produce a little cheese and maybe it'll go over. Nothing wrong with enjoying a nice cheesy tune ever once in a while.

It's like defacating. Sometimes you have to push really hard to get anything out. Sometimes it won't come out at all, and it puts you in a bad mood. Sometimes it functions like it's supposed to, and you take it for granted. Sometimes, though, the shit just keeps on coming and gets everywhere.

Suffice to say, it can be hard to tell the difference between diarrhea and production with some producers.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex It's like defacating. Sometimes you have to push really hard to get anything out. Sometimes it won't come out at all, and it puts you in a bad mood. Sometimes it functions like it's supposed to, and you take it for granted. Sometimes, though, the shit just keeps on coming and gets everywhere. Suffice to say, it can be hard to tell the difference between diarrhea and production with some producers.

Easily the best analogy I've ever seen.

get high.

reflect on how life is great while high.

come down.

search for sunrise.

kick, snare roll, breakdown, build up, rinse repeat

/trance

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex It's like defacating. Sometimes you have to push really hard to get anything out. Sometimes it won't come out at all, and it puts you in a bad mood. Sometimes it functions like it's supposed to, and you take it for granted. Sometimes, though, the shit just keeps on coming and gets everywhere. Suffice to say, it can be hard to tell the difference between diarrhea and production with some producers.

Post of the year.

Just push a button and the machine does all the work for you. Damn un-tss un-tss techno music.

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Originally posted by Gauss Post of all time.

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Originally posted by chadi Well, a lot of the so called minimal, electro and "tech-house" artists nowadays have it made. All they have to do is get on fruity loops, make a bunch of dings, dangs, bleeps bloops and burps (it doesn't really matter where the song is going) and some moron out there is going to like it.

it's no where near as simple as you think. thing is, often times i find the 'moronic' tech-house/minimal/techno community to be a lot more pickier than the commercialized house/trance community in terms of which tracks they find quality and which tracks they find shit.

then again it might just be my twisted perspective on the techno community but maybe someone will agree with me.

There are many ways to start a song.

As for the length, the time it takes to write a song varies. Sometimes it can take from minutes to years.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex It's like defacating. Sometimes you have to push really hard to get anything out. Sometimes it won't come out at all, and it puts you in a bad mood. Sometimes it functions like it's supposed to, and you take it for granted. Sometimes, though, the shit just keeps on coming and gets everywhere. Suffice to say, it can be hard to tell the difference between diarrhea and production with some producers.

Fucking magnificent

Re: What is usually the songwriting process for Trance/electronica?

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Originally posted by dada402 Does it just "flow as it goes" or does it take time like writing a rock song?

its not rap or hiphop, its trance, usually a one liner lopped 3-4 times repeat 8-12 times....


imo trances hould be straight instrumental, but some girls have nice voices.

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Originally posted by jupiterone tech-house/minimal/techno community to be a lot more pickier than the commercialized house/trance community in terms of which tracks they find quality and which tracks they find shit.

Yeah, but that's what makes it makes it even funnier.

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Originally posted by Internet TufGai There are many ways to start a song. As for the length, the time it takes to write a song varies. Sometimes it can take from minutes to years.

i would agree, but alot of electronic songs with lyrics are very well written and poetic i find, it would have to take some time for sure to sit down and write a good song and be from someone with a good imagination and thought process/talent.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ but alot of electronic songs with lyrics are very well written and poetic i find

You really are quite precious

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Originally posted by chadi Well, a lot of the so called minimal, electro and "tech-house" artists nowadays have it made. All they have to do is get on fruity loops, make a bunch of dings, dangs, bleeps bloops and burps (it doesn't really matter where the song is going) and some moron out there is going to like it. At least it's a good way to make some extra cash if you need it.

hahahahahahaha
nice
i agree 100%

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Originally posted by chadi Well, a lot of the so called minimal, electro and "tech-house" artists nowadays have it made. All they have to do is get on fruity loops, make a bunch of dings, dangs, bleeps bloops and burps (it doesn't really matter where the song is going) and some moron out there is going to like it.

You're a fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ i would agree, but alot of electronic songs with lyrics are very well written and poetic i find

huh

Anyway... Does anyone have the picture of the tiesto makeachoon program or whatever its called?

first make a phatt baseline and a drumloop, then rest comes of itself or not. if not start over.

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Originally posted by saluyamo huh Anyway... Does anyone have the picture of the tiesto makeachoon program or whatever its called?

can't find it but i remember one of the tickboxes was 'get cor fijneman to make it for me', which always annoyed me because cor is (or was) a pretty inept producer himself & it was blatantly geert huinink that did most of the helping

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ alot of electronic songs with lyrics are very well written and poetic

Oh, and the songwriting process for dance music is usually something like "Hit keys and twiddle with knobs and envelopes at random until something sounds neat. Elaborate from there."

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