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what are some edm artist that are respected by the underground and the mainstream.

i think thers only a few out there.

ill name 1..

pryda

is that possible? people that like more underground tend to hate on mainstream stuff.

i think there is a few out there that are respected by both.

Re: what are some edm artist that are respected by the underground and the mainstream

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Originally posted by 16YearOlTerror i think thers only a few out there. ill name 1.. pryda

quality thread again.

But, on topic it depends what you mean by underground, cos as a rule anything that is liked by a single person of the 'mainstream' is then hated by the 'underground' people who often aren't nearly as underground as they'd like to think they are.

Define underground/mainstream.

About 9 or 10 years ago, Paul van Dyk had massive respect across the board. There wasn't such a mainstream scene as such, so the extremes weren't so far apart anyway.

These days the mainstream might just as well be in the same league as your regular pop star. Those that remain 'underground' are so far apart in what they do, and more importantly WHY they do it, that you could pretty much say that they are part of something entirely different. In that respect I don't think you can really say one DJ can belong in both categories.

I saw it all going wrong when Pringles started giving away holidays to Ibiza on the back of their cans back in 2000. I knew it was all going down the pan then...............

oliver lieb, liam howlett, moby

perhaps trentem�ller? i dunno.

oliver lieb ain't respected by the mainstream, but liam is a good example i think

also maybe aphex twin and massive attack, though they don't quite fall into the dance part in edm..

William Orbit, Jacques Lu Cont.

Daft Punk and Underworld.

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Originally posted by a98 oliver lieb ain't respected by the mainstream, but liam is a good example i think

depends on what mainstream we talk about, do we talk about mainstream edm (avb, tiesto etc) or just mainstream (mtv,viva). of course u dont hear oliver lieb on mtv but u find oliver lieb tracks in all djs playlist the last 10 years almost no mather what genre we talk about within edm and who can forget utah saints - last vaugness?

btw chemical brothers and fatboy slim

I hear Dubfire is pretty underground.

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Originally posted by noikeee Daft Punk and Underworld.

perfect examples, imho.

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Originally posted by RJT I hear Dubfire is pretty underground.

Really, anyone who's produced a Madonna track.

Respected by who?

Because edm fans of mainstream generally don't knows fuck about whats good in underground, and fans of underground generally hates or don't cares about mainstream.

Obviously if you says, a bunch of underground and mainstream loves Daft Punk, but they're neither or totally, IMO.

There used to be loads, such as Leftfield, Orbital, The FSOL... all 90s acts and a lot of them split up now. Most of the names mentioned here, such as Underworld, Daft Punk and the Chems, are also 90s acts still going. Back in the 90s it was quite common for electronic acts to have underground acclaim and still sell records.

These days I think there's a real dichotomy between "mainstream" and "underground". The music deliberately segregates itself, which I think is a fucking terrible thing. You won't be able to name many new acts that cross-over like the ones above.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J These days I think there's a real dichotomy between "mainstream" and "underground". The music deliberately segregates itself, which I think is a fucking terrible thing. You won't be able to name many new acts that cross-over like the ones above.

This is a great point indeed, it's very strange because it wasn't until very recently that I kind of began hearing a lot of kids out at clubs refer to music they hear out in terms that were in binary opposition with one another, specifically "commercial" vs. whichever adjective you want to use for "non-commercial" (underground, alternative, etc.).

Unfortunately I think a lot of that has to do with the snobby techno/"commercial EDM" dichotomy (at least here in the States), because you really do have parties where there's great music but it is a bunch of people just hanging out, listening to what usually amounts to little more than nice background music (a set I think I have to include myself in), and for some reason this crowd generally feels as though they "won't" have any fun at the more "commercial" events.

Conversely you have the set that is relatively unabashed about their tastes and genuinely enjoy going out and reaching for the lasers week in and week out - many of whom seem to feel that the kind of music you can relax out at a club and listen to while simultaneously having a conversation with your friends is nothing more than snobby techno, so boring that how could anyone enjoy hearing it at a club?

So neither set winds up going out to the others club nights for nothing more than being stubborn and the dickhead battle continues in a fashion similar (but much "wussier" and lame than) the 90's East Coast/West Coast hip hop battle.

I hate it.

Aphex Twin
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Autechre

I don't know how much "dance" applies to those guys, though.

KLF?

i have to agree about daft punk and underworld


underground however is very relative


it seems to me that you (OP) haven't seen how deep underground can actually go



there are a lot of people who can't give a shit about pryda

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Originally posted by nefardec there are a lot of people who can't give a shit about *insert music here*

Fluke, Moby, The Prodigy, FSOL, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Amon Tobin, and probably a bunch of others I can't think of. I prefer to define them as "mainstream acts that don't suck".

well anyone who is underground and stays true to their roots would fit the bill i would say
the main reason underground fans lose their interest once an artist goes big is they tend to 'sell out'

Boards of Canada, maybe LCD Soundsystem

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