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Posted by DSILVR on Feb-13-2008 03:46:

Hello! Pad Sounds

This is the forum for trance so i bet some of your are pad sound making geniuses

I am having trouble creating pad sounds i use Ableton Live 7 Suite edition

Been trying to create sounds using operator i just get a shit sounding pad

Tips? I also herd putting Chorus, Reverb and a little delay can spice things up, but still

Any tips?

Thanks heaps. :-)


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-13-2008 03:49:

Atmosphere


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-13-2008 05:46:

try using analog instead of operator...you might have more success...operator is FM, analog is traditional...not saying you cant use operator...buuuuut, whatever. i dont much experience with those 2 plugs.

with analog, enable both osc, fuck with the detune, PWM, attack and decay time....add effects....good luck.


Posted by lowski on Feb-13-2008 07:50:

i can't really help you with the ableton thing but i know that layering and filling up a wider octave scale can create a very full and powerfull sound. also yes adding reverb, chorus, and delay can always spice a sound up. hope that helps. good luck!!


Posted by DSILVR on Feb-13-2008 08:30:

Cheers heaps fellas

any more hits all?


Posted by sterilis on Feb-13-2008 12:47:

jp 8000 use it for all my pads in my tracks. sound is unreal. although id use atmosphere for pads which arent in the breakdown as the jp 8000 eats up alot of head room.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-13-2008 14:33:

There's no single way to get good pad sounds, but here are a few tips:

1. Use unison to "soften" the raw oscillators of your synth.

2. Use a nice reverb and maybe some delay. Don't use too much, though, or your pads will sound kind of "drenched" and amorphous.

3. Use EQ to make the pad fit with the rest of your mix.

4. Use LFOs, modulation, and automation to create "movement" in your pad sounds and make them more interesting.

5. Make your pads stereo, either by having slightly different oscillators on both sides, a stereo delay, or different automation for left and right. But if you do this, always check your mix in mono to make sure it's not phasing.


Posted by Leon on Feb-13-2008 15:59:

dude above said it!


Posted by DSILVR on Feb-15-2008 04:53:

Cheers for help

But what's unison??


Posted by Lolo on Feb-16-2008 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DSILVR
Cheers for help

But what's unison??


Unison is a bunch of the same oscillator played altogether, slightly and equally detuned in positive or negative direction.

Example, let's take a... supersaw.

Depending on the amount of unison voices, it might be 2, 3, 4 or more of this same saw playing at the same time.

In case of 4 uni-voices, two saws will be positively detuned and symetrically, two others will go the negative direction at the same values.

Actually, it's good to say that of the two saws for each direction, saw 1 will have half the detune-amplitude of saw 2.

L.


Posted by advocate on Feb-16-2008 13:26:

A nice little trick for a wide sounding pad is to bounce the audio to two channels, then pan one channel hard left and the other hard right. Then move the audio part for the left pad a couple of ms before the right. Playback and its nice and wide for your mix.


Posted by Lolo on Feb-16-2008 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by advocate
A nice little trick for a wide sounding pad is to bounce the audio to two channels, then pan one channel hard left and the other hard right. Then move the audio part for the left pad a couple of ms before the right. Playback and its nice and wide for your mix.


....and it gets out of phase! Dangerous!


Posted by advocate on Feb-16-2008 16:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Lolo
....and it gets out of phase! Dangerous!


Well yeah that can be a problem, but if done carefully it can be a nice effect.


Posted by Lolo on Feb-16-2008 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by advocate
Well yeah that can be a problem, but if done carefully it can be a nice effect.


the easiest way then is a simple delay with zero feedback and different times on left and right channel, followed by something afterwards to reduce the stereo width.

L.


Posted by Reno on Feb-16-2008 23:40:

The filter envelope is your friend...


Posted by DSILVR on Feb-17-2008 01:47:

Thanks all, this is great

:-)



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