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Glad to see the Mossad is still active!

GOOOOO ISREEEEAAAALLLLL!!!

Why the hell can't we have an agency that is this effective?

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Why the hell can't we have an agency that is this effective?

oh please, just look what DoD, pentagon, FBI, NSA, NORAD, CIA achieved on 911!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh please, just look what DoD, pentagon, FBI, NSA, NORAD, CIA achieved on 911!

???

They failed miserably. What do you mean?

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Originally posted by donnybrasco ??? They failed miserably. What do you mean?

i can't say. i think im being watched

thread reminds me of a deck of cards i bought a couple months after 9-11.... the one with all the mug shots of the terrorists the US was going after.
too bad i never got them. fucking internet vendors. would have been fun though.

this isn't a game josh and it wasn't a game to him either. he was pure psychopath

at least consider yourself lucky to be in the cocoon you are in.

the people that were in his sights for the last quarter century and beyond didn't have your luxury.

thanks to some someone's courage those people might have a glimpse of that luxury.

Glad your so happy!

Tell me, will you be even more happy when Israel is struck by a wave of retalliatory suicide attacks? Remember, Hizballah are pretty effective at that and this time, we ALL know who started it...

Score

Israel - 1
Lebanon/Hezbollah - 0

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Originally posted by George Smiley we ALL know who started it...

started what? Hezbollah never finished anything that involved the deliberate targeting of the innocent...that was his trade craft.

now you can sit there and apologize for what that man made a hobby of doing. you can sit back and lick your chops as Hezbollah plans it's retalliation. you can mock whatever motives Israel had in planning his death (if they in fact did it), but that mother****** reaped what he sewed all by himself and i guarantee you he'd be the first one to agree with me. thats how martyrs roll.

will i be happy if Iran sends their minions to the nearest bus stop or pizza parlor in Jeruselem? nope. i expect that from Iran. will you be happy?

does it matter? nope. the only thing that matters is preventing more victims of his hobby. thats what was accomplished on that fateful tuesday in Damascus.

Actually Israel invaded Lebanon, hence the creation of Hizballah as a liberating force. Hizballah won that war and forced Israel to retreat out of most of Lebanese territory. Then there was the Lebanese War in 2006 where Israel was also forced to retreat after its response to Hizballah rocket attacks that were completely disproportionate (and the rocket attacks were the result of Israeli action oevr the border)

Things had calmed down and now Israel (apparently) has assassinated a leading figure of Hizballah who now say they will begin attcks.

You cannot go back to any point in time and say Israel did not start this.

You're also fucking clueless if you think this act will prevent Hizballah attacking Israel because it will have the opposite effect.

Lets face it, the ONLY reason Americans hate Hizballah is out of hatred for the Marine bombing in 1983...

If you support this act then you are clearly a fucking idiot who has no concept of how international relations work in the real world and instead believe that revenge and hatered are plausible ways to conduct policy

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Originally posted by George Smiley Hizballah rocket attacks that were completely disproportionate

youre full of apologies today arent ya.

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Things had calmed down and now Israel (apparently) has assassinated a leading figure of Hizballah who now say they will begin attcks.

you're fucking clueless if you think Hezbollah is satisfied with the status quo. Mugniyah just up and retired didn't he? listening to you he was just collecting an Iranian pension wasn't he? playing checkers in the park

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You cannot go back to any point in time and say Israel did not start this.

did they start by bombings in Argentina? did they start by hi-jacking planes in Greece?

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You're also fucking clueless if you think this act will prevent Hizballah attacking Israel because it will have the opposite effect.

when did i ever say that? i EXPECT Iran to retalliate by picking up where this murderous psychopath left off. no one is more petty than a determined Jihadist...NOBODY! that is not news to anyone.

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Lets face it, the ONLY reason Americans hate Hizballah is out of hatred for the Marine bombing in 1983...

don't forget TWA 847. anyway, most Americans don't really give a fuck or even know what Hezbollah is or what they stand for. so stop talking about "Americans" and talk to me.

no dude you misunderstand. i hate all Jihadists equally and deliberately for what they do to people all over the world. i have no real disaffection for Hezbollah that i don't have for Hamas or Al-Queera or Muslim Brotherhood or whatever flavor of the month blows up the next airplane.

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If you support this act then you are clearly a fucking idiot who has no concept of how international relations work in the real world and instead believe that revenge and hatered are plausible ways to conduct policy

only a fucking idiot would think Hezbollah could even pronounce the words "peace though international relations". Jesus dude get a fucking clue.

whoever offed this piece of shit career murderer should get the Nobel fucking prize and zero grief from apologists such as yourself.

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Originally posted by Q5echo Rabble rabble rabble

Face facts, hatred and revenge should never be deciding factors in producing policy. For whatever reason you are showing an irrational response to Hizballah, should your views be shared by policy makers then Israel is in for a wave of devestating suicide attacks. If that's the price you are willing to pay to get a tiny bit of a sense of revenge then more fool you.

Face facts, Israeli (and American and French) occupation, and their support for the Phalange (and all they did to the Muslims) created Hizballah. ALL the attacks attributed to Hizballah are the result of that Israeli occupation.

Now Israel (if it was them) has made a unilateral, unprevoked attack, and is responsible for the repercusions...you might wank yourself blind sat in your bedroom in America over what has happened the last few days, but your safe and well away from the action so you can afford to have extremist views (happens a lot that Americans often have more extreme views than the extremists themselves in these far away countries, like Israel or Ireland)

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Originally posted by George Smiley Face facts, hatred and revenge should never be deciding factors in producing policy.

who said anything about policy? this man died for what he did to others and for what he did for others that didn't have the courage to do for themselves. read Iran.

for all he stood for, for everything you advocate, he was still just one man. he wasn't a government. he wasn't a state. HE WAS ONE MAN who killed many.

hell no. irrational responses is someone, like you, elevating this one man to a place where somehow in some twisted fucking logic it's justified in killing countless others in petty retalliation.

no dude, YOU have it twisted. Nasrahllah has it twisted elevating this garbage to repond in kind magnitudes...for this one piece of murderous garbage.

is there any evidence that israel was behind the attack? not that i would ever assume they didnt do it, but there are all kinds of "players" that might benefit from an upsurge in anti israeli & american opinion.

i agree with both of you. its fucking stupid from israel if it was them, but people like this that live by the sword...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i agree with both of you. its fucking stupid from israel if it was them, but people like this that live by the sword...

I felt like posting a youtube video to prove my point and not give any reason why......

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Originally posted by Q5echo who said anything about policy? this man died for what he did to others and for what he did for others that didn't have the courage to do for themselves. read Iran. for all he stood for, for everything you advocate, he was still just one man. he wasn't a government. he wasn't a state. HE WAS ONE MAN who killed many. hell no. irrational responses is someone, like you, elevating this one man to a place where somehow in some twisted fucking logic it's justified in killing countless others in petty retalliation. no dude, YOU have it twisted. Nasrahllah has it twisted elevating this garbage to repond in kind magnitudes...for this one piece of murderous garbage.

Lol! I think I'm sane and rational enough to lift myself above the extremist emotional response this event has prevoked in you (for whatever reason)

This is NOT about an individual but about the wider impact on the situation between Hizballah and Israel. If Israel was behind this attack (which Hizballah believe, so it kind of makes the point a bit irrelevant) then it will result in revenge attacks that, lets face it, simply would not have occured were it not for this act.

So yes, it is ALL about policy, and this one, if perpetrated by Israel, was a fucking stupid policy!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN is there any evidence that israel was behind the attack? not that i would ever assume they didnt do it, but there are all kinds of "players" that might benefit from an upsurge in anti israeli & american opinion. i agree with both of you. its fucking stupid from israel if it was them, but people like this that live by the sword...

AFAIAA, there is no evidence linking this to Israel (or America)

However, both countries have made comments that seemingly support the extra-judicial assassination as welcoming

And lets face it, nobody cares about an individual from Hizballah being killed, that is not the issue at all, the issue is what comes next...

...and whatever does come next, the blame is squarely at the door of Israel for engaging in hostilities (if it was them)

Other suspects would be among the anti-Syrian block in Lebanese politics, all more than capable, more than willing, and all with a track record of taking their enemies out by such means...you just have to ask youself what they would gain from such an action (and the obvious chain of events this will lead to)

Lebanese civil war + Foreign forces jumping in = TROUBLE

We don't need to be fighting other people's wars.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Lol! I think I'm sane and rational enough to lift myself above the extremist emotional response this event has prevoked in you (for whatever reason) This is NOT about an individual but about the wider impact on the situation between Hizballah and Israel. If Israel was behind this attack (which Hizballah believe, so it kind of makes the point a bit irrelevant) then it will result in revenge attacks that, lets face it, simply would not have occured were it not for this act. So yes, it is ALL about policy, and this one, if perpetrated by Israel, was a fucking stupid policy!

the problem is you think "sane and rational" automatically puts you on the right side of a moral quandry. news flash george, it doesn't.

it only becomes policy if you allow this convicted murdering terrorist to become larger than the needs of the innocent. thats what Nasrallah wants, thats what you are shamefully accepting of. face that fact george.

people like Mugniyah and Nasrallah don't need your sympathy.

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Originally posted by George Smiley ...and whatever does come next, the blame is squarely at the door of Israel for engaging in hostilities (if it was them)

this is exactly why Islamo-fascist jihad will remain with us.

Jumping into the middle of other nation's civil wars is like stepping into a snakepit. One should not be surprised if they get bitten...

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this is exactly why Islamo-fascist jihad will remain with us.

No, this is why there will always be "Islamo-fascism"...

Western Imperialism

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Originally posted by Q5echo the problem is you think "sane and rational" automatically puts you on the right side of a moral quandry. news flash george, it doesn't. it only becomes policy if you allow this convicted murdering terrorist to become larger than the needs of the innocent. thats what Nasrallah wants, thats what you are shamefully accepting of. face that fact george. people like Mugniyah and Nasrallah don't need your sympathy.

If you're too pig headed to be able to see the bigger picture then more fool you

You're no better than the "Islamo fascists" themselves and you're no better than the "Judeao fascists" living in the occupied territories

Anybody who uses hate to determine their political views and in the process encourages an eruption of violence needs their head checking if you ask me...

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Originally posted by Q5echo this is exactly why Islamo-fascist jihad will remain with us.

Because of Israeli policy? You're correct, glad you agree

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