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How hard is Cubase to learn compared to Reason & FL?

Ok I do private lessons off of Craigslist where I teach people how to use FL Studio or Reason but I noticed I get A LOT of people asking me if I can teach them Cubase and I've never used it before.

Once I learned Reason my transition to FL only took me about 2-3 months before I really got a good grip around most of its capabilities. And I never really took a look at the interface of Cubase but from a glance it looked a bit like Acid Pro's interface.

My question: How hard is Cubase to learn? Because if I can learn Cubase I can open my business up to a much larger clientel. Just curious what people think about the learning curve for Cubase for someone who has basically mastered FL & Reason. Thanks! - Roxx

It's not that hard. but to become proficient and get a good workflow, id say about 3 months.

I use Ableton and I find Cubase to be much more complicated when it comes to doing things. I suppose if I got used to Cubase it would be easy but Ableton has a very easy to understand interface.

saying one program is easier than an another isn't really the way to look at it. all sequencers do the same thing. i think FL studio is hard. i am proficient with reason, cubase, and logic. but ive never used FL so its hard. if you know one program, its just a matter of figuring out how to do what you already know. all pro leval sequencers are pretty simple if you sit down and take your time.

I had a harder time with Fl than I did with cubase, not sure if it was just me not applying myself or what.

I bought the Cubase SX Power book and that totally helped me along with google and google videos.

I had a much easy time with Cubase than Ableton, Cubase seems much more straight forward.. i didn't think ableton had a very easy to understand interface at all.. seemed like half the buttons were unlabeled. if you know pro tools/logic/sonar you almost already know cubase.

i cant comprehend how someone could struggle with it. layout is blatant. i pretty much knew most of how it worked after 2 weeks. before i was using cakewalk on a pentium 133. id had a little experience of cubase on atari, but not much time at all.

if you understand sequencing, it will be quite quick to make a transition. if anything it is more obvious than reason and fl imo.

The sequencer is piss easy to learn. I struggled with the routing in the beginning. In fact it took me about 2 days to actually get some sound out of it but then I had no experience with midi except for setting up a control surface in Reason. It's very different from Reason and FL in that respect where you launch the app and you're pretty much creating music already.

Thing is if you gonna be teaching it, you need to know each tool, 80% of which the average user will never use!!

Just out of curiosity, what do you charge for your teaching lessons you advertise for on Craiglist? Do you do 1 hour blocks I take it?

i found cubase impossible, fruity quit quirky and with reason i made tunes after a day of fidling. ableton was pretty easy too but it crashed so i stopped using it. might go back to it.

Some real interesting responses here. And I don't do one 1 hour blocks. I go as long as the customer is willing to go in a sitting and as much time I have availabe for them. (if thats what you meant by "blocks")
I do it at $20/hr and I get a lot of people asking for lessons with Cubase so I made the decision I'm just gonna learn it. I was taking a look at some basic tutorials on youtube and interface looks really straight forward so I might as well just take the Cubase plunge..


edit: And what the hell is up with no Cubase demos? Is their fraud prevention that bad that any idiot can steal & register it? I never heard of a DAW not offering demos before.. bs imo.

I've tried the cubase demo several times, and each time I get nowhere. I can barely get a sound out of the thing. Cubase is not intuitive at all, whereas FL Studio is very, very intuitive. They say Cubase isn't so hard to learn if you have the video tutorials. If I had someone sitting beside me showing me how to get around in cubase, I'm sure it would make things a lot easier. I'd say you'd be spending twice the amount of time teaching people Cubase.

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If I had someone sitting beside me showing me how to get around in cubase, I'm sure it would make things a lot easier.

Took me under 3 hours to teach a friend how to make tracks in cubase 3. That included , how to turn and use plugins, vsti instruments, how to record hardware synths that you got connected, buses, and rendering and final mixdown.. plus a lot of tips and stuff. He was writing down some stuff on paper, but next time i came over to his place, he made like 5 tracks in 5 days, and he only called me once, since he wasn't sure if he should do post or pre fader stuff hehe. Cubase isn't that hard really.

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Originally posted by DJDIRTY Took me under 3 hours to teach a friend how to make tracks in cubase 3. That included , how to turn and use plugins, vsti instruments, how to record hardware synths that you got connected, buses, and rendering and final mixdown.. plus a lot of tips and stuff. He was writing down some stuff on paper, but next time i came over to his place, he made like 5 tracks in 5 days, and he only called me once, since he wasn't sure if he should do post or pre fader stuff hehe. Cubase isn't that hard really.

Maybe I should forget about Ableton and have you show me the ins and outs of Cubase haha.

I'm really looking forward to being finished school--counting down the months!

why can't you just continue producing with what you're good at?

This is an off topic n00b question but instead of creating a new thread for it it can go here...

In FL you can create a bunch of channels with samples or vstis open up the piano roll and create a basic thing in a few moments. I'm quite sure you can't do this in Reason as it doesn't take vst (?). My question is do Logic/Sonar/Cubase operate in the same way or is it more for audio sequencing or something else... n00b but I just don't know

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Originally posted by Sebastien My question is do Logic/Sonar/Cubase operate in the same way or is it more for audio sequencing or something else... n00b but I just don't know

They operate in the same way, except they're much better in handling audio track. If you're considering recording audio in the future, you're much better off with the above mentioned software.

^ What about vice versa? As in does Fl handle sequencing and making patterns 'better'?

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Originally posted by Sebastien ^ What about vice versa? As in does Fl handle sequencing and making patterns 'better'?

I guess that's a matter of ones workflow, but personally I'd have to say yes.

If I didn't use hardware, I'd be using either FL or Reason.

pretttty fuckin hard mate

Its harder to get started with the basics. There is no certain "logic" in how to find and apply the VST Instruments and Effects. When someone tells you how to do that, the learning curve is the same.

cubase impossible

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Originally posted by Chronosis They operate in the same way, except they're much better in handling audio track. If you're considering recording audio in the future, you're much better off with the above mentioned software.

I've been laying down a lot of guitar tracks lately in FL Studio, and it handles audio recording and audio file playback extremely well. It's so easy and fast once you learn the proper way of doing things.

I never got far with Cubase, and I haven't tried any other DAWS, so really can't speak about them. All I know is, FL Studio makes is fast and easy to create patterns in the piano roll, sequence, automate, ect. The only people that have a hard time learning FL Studio are Cubase users, because the layout is so different.

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