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Posted by rewind_plz on Feb-27-2008 17:47:

China claims 90,000 km of India

China illegally claims approximately 90,000 square kilometres of Indian territory including Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh, External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee said on Wednesday.

"Arunachal Pradesh is an integral part of India and the government has conveyed this fact to the Chinese side," Mukherjee told the Lok Sabha in a written reply.

In reply to another query, he said China disputes the international boundary with India.

Since 1993, the two governments have agreed to maintain peace and tranquility along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China and border areas, without prejudice to their respective positions on the alignment of the LAC as well as on the boundary question, he said.

Mukherjee said both sides have agreed to clarify the LAC and to take up perceived violations through established mechanisms including the Joint Working Group, the Expert Group, border personnel meetings, flag meetings and diplomatic channels.

Kaladan: The Kaladan multi-modal transit transport facility providing connectivity between Indian ports on the eastern seaboard and the Sittwe port in Myanmar will be completed in five years from its date of commencement, Mukherjee said in reply to a separate question.

Work on the project will begin after the agreement and protocols are signed by India and Myanmar, he said.

The project will provide an alternate route for transport of goods to north-east India through Myanmar, Mukherjee said.


http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/27china.htm

Some comments below on that article is interesting too.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-27-2008 18:11:

Re: China claims 90,000 km of India

quote:
Originally posted by rewind_plz
China illegally claims approximately 90,000 square kilometres of Indian territory including Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh, External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee said on Wednesday.

"Arunachal Pradesh is an integral part of India and the government has conveyed this fact to the Chinese side," Mukherjee told the Lok Sabha in a written reply.

In reply to another query, he said China disputes the international boundary with India.

Since 1993, the two governments have agreed to maintain peace and tranquility along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China and border areas, without prejudice to their respective positions on the alignment of the LAC as well as on the boundary question, he said.

Mukherjee said both sides have agreed to clarify the LAC and to take up perceived violations through established mechanisms including the Joint Working Group, the Expert Group, border personnel meetings, flag meetings and diplomatic channels.

Kaladan: The Kaladan multi-modal transit transport facility providing connectivity between Indian ports on the eastern seaboard and the Sittwe port in Myanmar will be completed in five years from its date of commencement, Mukherjee said in reply to a separate question.

Work on the project will begin after the agreement and protocols are signed by India and Myanmar, he said.

The project will provide an alternate route for transport of goods to north-east India through Myanmar, Mukherjee said.


http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/27china.htm

Some comments below on that article is interesting too.


hopefully a full out war over the land takes place and each country increases its military budget resulting in greater revenue for US firms that manufacture military equipment and technology.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-27-2008 18:14:

Re: Re: China claims 90,000 km of India

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
hopefully a full out war over the land takes place and each country increases its military budget resulting in greater revenue for US firms that manufacture military equipment and technology.


not to mention a good thinning of the population.


Posted by guerra-monstru on Feb-27-2008 19:38:

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
not to mention a good thinning of the population.

Also a good thing for the environment that so many people just might die as a result of this war.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-27-2008 19:50:

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru
Also a good thing for the environment that so many people just might die as a result of this war.


but then who will answer our complaint calls to major corporations and who will make toys and toothpaste that kill our children?


Posted by colonelcrisp on Feb-27-2008 20:39:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
but then who will answer our complaint calls to major corporations and who will make toys and toothpaste that kill our children?



The affrican call center's aren't too far off in teh distant future.....


Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-27-2008 20:46:

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp
The affrican call center's aren't too far off in teh distant future.....


i wonder if the african people will also have names like jennifer, susan, and michael?


Posted by rewind_plz on Feb-28-2008 06:04:

Re: Re: China claims 90,000 km of India

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
hopefully a full out war over the land takes place and each country increases its military budget resulting in greater revenue for US firms that manufacture military equipment and technology.


+ greater revenue for Russian firms

+ a good thinning of the population in both countries.

= +1


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-29-2008 05:56:

Breaks it out...



seriously though, I had no idea there was border disputes between the two...


Posted by Q5echo on Feb-29-2008 07:20:

Re: Re: China claims 90,000 km of India

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
hopefully a full out war over the land takes place and each country increases its military budget resulting in greater revenue for US firms that manufacture military equipment and technology.


news flash jerz, India makes due very well with their own "diabolical military industrial complex"

we have little to do with it.


Posted by rewind_plz on Feb-29-2008 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Breaks it out...







Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-29-2008 14:32:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
news flash jerz, India makes due very well with their own "diabolical military industrial complex"

we have little to do with it.


http://www.indianembassy.org/press_...005/June/31.htm

see paragraph 4F (quoted below) of the "New Framework for the US India Defense Relationship" signed in 2005:

quote:

F. in the context of our strategic relationship, expand two-way defense trade between our countries. The United States and India will work to conclude defense transactions, not solely as ends in and of themselves, but as a means to strengthen our countries' security, reinforce our strategic partnership, achieve greater interaction between our armed forces, and build greater understanding between our defense establishments;


in other words, india will start buying more US defense technology. They recently purchased a refurbished navy vessel. I believe india has a history of buying russian military technology, however, with this accord that trend is likely to fade.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Feb-29-2008 16:27:

There's a great deal of partnership between the US and India on nuclear technologies as well.

But overall, I think this thread is kind of old hat. India and China fought a war over this area in 1962, and I highly doubt they will again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War


Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-29-2008 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
There's a great deal of partnership between the US and India on nuclear technologies as well.

But overall, I think this thread is kind of old hat. India and China fought a war over this area in 1962, and I highly doubt they will again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War


clearly you are correct. i never thought a war would really occur, but it would be interesting if it did.


Posted by rewind_plz on Feb-29-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
clearly you are correct. i never thought a war would really occur, but it would be interesting if it did.


India will duck in.. like buddhist monks in Tibet..

They all still suffer from Gandhi's philosphy/disease: If someone slaps you on face, tilt it to certain angle so that he can slap you other side too!! Voila! Thats Non-violence.



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