EDM and Rhythm in our lives - TranceAddict Forums

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Discussion
-- EDM and Rhythm in our lives
Pages (2): [1] 2 »

Posted by daphunky1 on Feb-28-2008 00:30:

EDM and Rhythm in our lives

I've had a discussion with my friend but haven't given the topic much thought in a while until now.
Anyways, I've wondered what is it about constantly rhythmic 4/4 music that I/we love so much, because I feel like my life is more balanced and in order when I listen to more 4/4 edm. I wondered if it has something to do with keeping our lives in cycles, such as we do with days, years etc... I know I didn't explain that very well but work with me here.
Basically I'm wondering how the 4/4 rhythm of edm might effect us on a deeper level, and why we are able to become obsessed with it, and dance to it for hours. I know it makes us feel good, but I want to go further and think about why this type of music is able to do this to us. What is going on in our mind that are so responsive to it?
I mean, you don't hear of people dancing to any other kind of music all night long.

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 00:41:

I don't really think this question is answerable.

Posted by Ted Promo on Feb-28-2008 00:42:

Re: EDM and Rhythm in our lives

quote:
Originally posted by daphunky1
I mean, you don't hear of people dancing to any other kind of music all night long.

That would be the designer drugs.

Posted by Clovis on Feb-28-2008 00:44:

Re: EDM and Rhythm in our lives

quote:
Originally posted by daphunky1
I mean, you don't hear of people dancing to any other kind of music all night long.

So what did people dance to before 4/4 dance music came along?

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-28-2008 00:48:

Re: Re: EDM and Rhythm in our lives

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So what did people dance to before 4/4 dance music came along?

Waltzes!

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 01:09:

Isn't little african tribe music in 4/4?

Posted by Elec on Feb-28-2008 01:16:

I know what you're talking about, I quickly get bored of music thats not 4/4.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-28-2008 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Isn't little african tribe music in 4/4?

It uses plenty of 4/4, but when it does there are typically instruments playing in other time signatures on top of the 4/4. It's called "polyrhythm."

Posted by nefardec on Feb-28-2008 01:39:

this brings up other interesting points that you haven't really mentioned,

but as for what you posted:

i don't think there is anything particularly special about 4/4 except that you're just really used to it and feel the phrases more.

Posted by julien2 on Feb-28-2008 02:36:

A constant, monotonous, repetitive beat (such as 4 to the floor EDM, ie house, trance techno) will always create a state of trance (here the real meaning of the word, not the music)

Primitive (not used in a negative way) societies have all used those repetitive enchanting beats to communicate with spirits and have incorporated them in their cults and rites.

Falling in a state of trance with repetitive rythms is as old as fire.

Nothing exceptional with EDM

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 02:57:

A state of trance is only achieveable between certain BPMs though.

Posted by Project-K on Feb-28-2008 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i don't think there is anything particularly special about 4/4 except that you're just really used to it and feel the phrases more.

That's what I was thinking. 4/4 just happends to be easy to digest, and so much pop music uses it that it's been hardwired into our brains, so anything else feels unnatural. Back when I mostly listened to EDM I felt the same way, and I thought 4/4 had something special about it. Try getting into other genres, and you'll start feeling the same about other time signatures.

Posted by daphunky1 on Feb-28-2008 03:57:

Re: Re: EDM and Rhythm in our lives

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
That would be the designer drugs.

And the people who do designer drugs choose edm to dance to, not something else... why is that?

Posted by nefardec on Feb-28-2008 04:08:

Re: Re: Re: EDM and Rhythm in our lives

quote:
Originally posted by daphunky1
And the people who do designer drugs choose edm to dance to, not something else... why is that?

before 'edm' was psychedelic rock and lysergic acid diethylamide...

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 04:41:

What I don't get is people who say EDM isn't emotional? It's far more emotional than other genres from what I've heard.

Posted by elFreak on Feb-28-2008 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
A state of trance is only achieveable between certain BPMs though.

please elaborate on this as I won't say you are wrong straight out but am not quite sure where you are coming from. Call it curiosity.

Posted by Clovis on Feb-28-2008 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
What I don't get is people who say EDM isn't emotional? It's far more emotional than other genres from what I've heard.

All music can be emotional.

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
please elaborate on this as I won't say you are wrong straight out but am not quite sure where you are coming from. Call it curiosity.

Well its not possible with 120bpm music and its not possible with 170 bpm music.

Can't remember where I read it on wiki... but it seems accurate. It has something to do with the alpha brainwaves.

Posted by Clovis on Feb-28-2008 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Well its not possible with 120bpm music and its not possible with 170 bpm music.

Can't remember where I read it on wiki... but it seems accurate. It has something to do with the alpha brainwaves.

Clearly you've never listened to music on drugs...

Posted by elFreak on Feb-28-2008 05:57:

Posted by SMC on Feb-28-2008 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
What I don't get is people who say EDM isn't emotional? It's far more emotional than other genres from what I've heard.

And what have you heard exactly?

Posted by piku303 on Feb-28-2008 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Isn't little african tribe music in 4/4?

generally its in 6/8 but, id have to say that real tribal music transcends time signatures...its just one continual ever evolving sound...totally free form.

Posted by distant on Feb-28-2008 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
120 is actually perfect, because it comes close to matching the pace of the mother's heart when we are in the womb.

Fuck wiki, live it.

No, that's 140-150.

Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-28-2008 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by distant
No, that's 140-150.

Which also happens to be around the bpm you can experience a state of trance around... never heard about the mothers womb though... only alpha waves and stuff.

I think some people might be confusing different musical states of consciousness.

But theres a difference between the relaxing hypnotic 120bpm musical state and when your listening to a song at 140-150bpm and it goes into a really awesome downvibe moment (like a pad for example).

For example I find when really tired you can listen to hypnotic downbeat music but can't enter into a state of trance.

Anyway I'm probably just another idiot not knowing what he's talking about.

Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Feb-28-2008 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
What I don't get is people who say EDM isn't emotional? It's far more emotional than other genres from what I've heard.

idk about that one...classical, jazz, blues, (insert probably any musical genre here) are extremely emotional provoking music.

Pages (2): [1] 2 »