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Why is so much music boring these days?

a rhetorical question, but now more than ever, for me to make a cd of 16 tracks, i'm literally going through hundreds of songs (if half of them can even be called a song) it doesn't even matter what edm genre anymore. Everyone has figured its cool to go for a 'harder' sound, and although i like the harder sound when done properly and with a purpose, so many 'producers' are just shooting out shit with garbage that doesn't resolve to any sort of purpose, no energy from a strong breakdown/buildup, a monotunos line that can literally stretch the whole song, or 1:30 in some cases with literally no harmonic or rhythmic change. (not even a bloody hi-hat to at least make it different!) seriously, i can make a shit hook and loop it for 5mins too.

This is more of a rant then a question. I've always enjoyed the process of obtaining new music on beatport, but wow does most of it suck balls. No wonder i'm not excited to go to as many shows these days when many djs resort to playing this bullshit.

you must listen to dj mars

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=1&pagenumber=1

Re: Why is so much music boring these days?

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Originally posted by djbruuen a rhetorical question, but now more than ever, for me to make a cd of 16 tracks, i'm literally going through hundreds of songs (if half of them can even be called a song) it doesn't even matter what edm genre anymore. Everyone has figured its cool to go for a 'harder' sound, and although i like the harder sound when done properly and with a purpose, so many 'producers' are just shooting out shit with garbage that doesn't resolve to any sort of purpose, no energy from a strong breakdown/buildup, a monotunos line that can literally stretch the whole song, or 1:30 in some cases with literally no harmonic or rhythmic change. (not even a bloody hi-hat to at least make it different!) seriously, i can make a shit hook and loop it for 5mins too. This is more of a rant then a question. I've always enjoyed the process of obtaining new music on beatport, but wow does most of it suck balls. No wonder i'm not excited to go to as many shows these days when many djs resort to playing this bullshit.

I'd say try looking outside of what's popular in your genre of choice, or, explore other genres.

When was the last time you thought current music was good?

In my opinion, I do agree that its becoming a little bit more challenging to obtain a good number of choons...A couple of years ago, finding really good music was a breeze...now Ive become a lot more selective since the "bangers" are a little more difficult to find. As for all the choons that are "boring," all I can say to that is TO EACH THEIR OWN. To you it may suck balls, but to others it may be something overwhelming. That's why music is so diverse because people in general are diverse. If everyone liked the same music, THAT would be boring!

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Originally posted by DJ Manuel C In my opinion, I do agree that its becoming a little bit more challenging to obtain a good number of choons...A couple of years ago, finding really good music was a breeze...now Ive become a lot more selective since the "bangers" are a little more difficult to find. As for all the choons that are "boring," all I can say to that is TO EACH THEIR OWN. To you it may suck balls, but to others it may be something overwhelming. That's why music is so diverse because people in general are diverse. If everyone liked the same music, THAT would be boring!

i never stated that all music is boring. Looking past EDM music, there is an abundance of amazing music out there. (.ie jazz, film scores/classical, some rock, lounge, ethnic etc) and as i stated in my first sentence, i'm still making edm cds.

i know my comments came off lowbrow, but i'm not suggesting everyone should like the same music either. I'm sure some selections i pass up on, others may enjoy, but in the overall spectrum, the "QUALITY" of music has greatly been demoted. I think this is shown by sales of under 10 for a great number of songs on beatport. They should have never been there in the first place. Quality control in EDM is the biggest issue and its rather frustrating since the genre's are so saturated. The other problem is some gems have less then 10 purchases, just because they have been drowned out in a field of sub-par music. I've always had the stance that i like Good music. regardless of genre. Good - refers to absolutely any genre where the musican took time and care to incorporate originality, production quality, and an overall interest to engage the listener. For many, this criteria could be vast enough for people to enjoy their favourite form of music without everyone liking the same thing.

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Originally posted by leph555 you must listen to dj mars http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=1&pagenumber=1

like that thread needs any more attention

If you're having trouble finding good tunes, it probably means you have a very very narrow and undeveloped appreciation of music, dominated by a tendency to use it for personality self-reinforcement and subcultural tribal identification, and handicapped by a forced naivette of what's actually out there. And the reason why you don't like it anymore is because you're growing up.


A tip: stop doing that.

There's just as much boring music now as there ever was, it's just that nowadays it's much more easy to find (or hard to avoid, whichever way you want to look at it).

It's just that the barrier of making music is so low today compared to a few years ago, that we are overwhelmed by a flood of crappy tracks going nowhere. Some artists have high standards about their music, and don't consider that because a track exists and it's easy to release, it should be. However, a vast majority of producers is ready to release substandard stuff for whatever reason (money, being know to get gigs, etc). See the deluge of so called mnml release totally uninteresting, boring with no groove at all. Joe random played with whatever software and found bells and click, wow that's cool let's release it!

There's a lot of good stuff that doesn't sound generic to be found either produced today or in the past, but for the today stuff one must dig harder.

It just is.
Final answer

Re: Why is so much music boring these days?

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Originally posted by djbruuen

maybe you should stop listening to ASOT

And so the journey has begun. You've tired of trance, don't be afraid its expected. You are all grown up now, welcome to the world of good music. Enjoy the ride.

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Originally posted by elFreak And so the journey has begun. You've tired of trance, don't be afraid its expected. You are all grown up now, welcome to the world of good music. Enjoy the ride.

this freak speaks the truth

There's still people listening to trance ?

I still listen to trance (after 8+ years).

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Originally posted by elFreak And so the journey has begun. You've tired of trance, don't be afraid its expected. You are all grown up now, welcome to the world of good music. Enjoy the ride.

+1

This is pretty much what happened to me. Got into trance casually off of asot (lol) in... 2003 I think. Was a casual listener of the genre till last year when I became a lot more interested in electronic music in general. This led to me becoming bored with trance then realizing the older trance style, and the wide range of edm genres were simply phenomenal.

I still listen to trance and enjoy it a good bit, but it's usually not the mainstream stuff, most of that I can't stand at this point. I guess I have the DJ Promotion boards on TA to thank for my expanding edm tastes, there are a lot of mixes there that are fantastic and have really opened me up to other forms and styles, great stuff.

rise in digital means A LOT of bad music because there are little to no repercussions (not to say there isn't bad music on vinyl, just less). there used to be a relatively low amount of labels and now anyone and their mother can create a label. resources used to be limited in that not everyone was able to afford or have access to producton equipment but now it's just a google search away for the newest torrent. it used to cost money to release tracks but now it's as easy as setting up a cheap website and uploading a few files. i don't know the cost structure of beatport but i'm sure it isn't that expensive (for uploading your tracks there not buying them).

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Originally posted by bubbleguuum It's just that the barrier of making music is so low today compared to a few years ago, that we are overwhelmed by a flood of crappy tracks going nowhere. Some artists have high standards about their music, and don't consider that because a track exists and it's easy to release, it should be. However, a vast majority of producers is ready to release substandard stuff for whatever reason (money, being know to get gigs, etc). See the deluge of so called mnml release totally uninteresting, boring with no groove at all. Joe random played with whatever software and found bells and click, wow that's cool let's release it!

absolutely.

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Originally posted by elFreak And so the journey has begun. You've tired of trance, don't be afraid its expected. You are all grown up now, welcome to the world of good music. Enjoy the ride.

Music is not a journey. Don't buy into that elitist garbage, listen to what you like. The 'journeys' most people refer to is just the natural progression through what is popular... Thats why you have all these folks talking about 'growing out of' trance (which has already burnt out it's mainstream popularity) and moving into 'good music' which most often times refers to either the overly farty tech sounds or bleepy minimal sounds which are all the rage these days. Where was this 'journey' in 1998 - 2000? Give it another 2 years and people will be asking when you are going to grow out of 'techno' and move onto good music (read: what is popular at the time.)

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I still listen to trance (after 8+ years).

+a big ol 1.

guide to trance.

steps 1.

1.kid tries drugs, goes to trance event, is knocked off his ass by how cool it is to him.

2.P2P searches Tiesto, Armin, *insert big name dj here* Grabs all he/she can find, and hammers it for a long time.

3.Kid grows up and stops doing drugs, music at 140bpm starts to become annoying and less good.

4.Kid starts listening to other genres.

5.Kid actually starts paying for music, because the real good stuff isnt on P2P.

6.Kid likes it more and doesn't have to be high and dream of touching unicorns with his hands in the air during an un danceable 45 minute buildup/breakdown.

7.Kid decides he will be the next big DJ and steals Ableton.(This can be replaced with producing)Often giving up because it isn't instant. (or see sticking with it, but wanting everything before they are ready)

8.Kid absolutely hates trance now and makes sure no one else in the world can enjoy it. His new mission, to "Save" noobs who don't know any better.

9.Clovis finally gets gis at WMC.

10.Profit.

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Originally posted by elFreak guide to trance. steps 1. 1.kid tries drugs, goes to trance event, is knocked off his ass by how cool it is to him. 2.P2P searches Tiesto, Armin, *insert big name dj here* Grabs all he/she can find, and hammers it for a long time. 3.Kid grows up and stops doing drugs, music at 140bpm starts to become annoying and less good. 4.Kid starts listening to other genres. 5.Kid actually starts paying for music, because the real good stuff isnt on P2P. 6.Kid likes it more and doesn't have to be high and dream of touching unicorns with his hands in the air during an un danceable 45 minute buildup/breakdown. 7.Kid decides he will be the next big DJ and steals Ableton.(This can be replaced with producing)Often giving up because it isn't instant. (or see sticking with it, but wanting everything before they are ready) 8.Kid absolutely hates trance now and makes sure no one else in the world can enjoy it. His new mission, to "Save" noobs who don't know any better. 9.Clovis finally gets gis at WMC. 10.Profit.

haha respect...
i think i passed some of these steps... thankfully a few

specifically
Step 2 yep i searched those mother******s but now not any more
step 5 i still dont pay cause i found some beautiful forums

deadmau5

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Originally posted by elFreak 8.Kid absolutely hates trance now and makes sure no one else in the world can enjoy it. His new mission, to "Save" noobs who don't know any better.

Guess some people never exit this stage.

it stays with you for life, like herpes.

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