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Signed remixes [rates or percentages]

Whats a acceptable percentage to receive when someone remixes your work?

I would think label would get 50%, then 25/25 to original artist and remixer?

50/50, that's the standard as far as I know.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 50/50, that's the standard as far as I know.

50/50 between u and the artist?

usually the remixer gets a fixed amount of money (not a percentage) for doing the remix.

after that the income from the sales of both original and remix are split between the label and the artist according to the contract.

Labels handle these things differently independent of eachother. I'd normally recommend to try and get 50/25/25 on a remix deal if it's digital. 50% of the sales income for the track you did is standard. I wouldn't take any less for a remix. Fixed price would be more interesting anyway, especially if they will not do 50/25/25, or sales are low. Unless you expect huge sales of course.

In case of a percentage remix deal:
50% for remixer
25% original artist
25% label

I'm just about to get a remix released in i-tunes, napster etc. The contract came the other day, and this is how it is split -


The record company will get 50% of the total revenue from digital downloads.

The remaining 50% shall be split between the artist and the remixer.
The remixer will get 50% of the Artists share, and the artist will get 50% of the remixers share.

Hope this makes sense!

TMP

basically, unless you get an advance, you get naff all

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Originally posted by Luke Terry basically, unless you get an advance, you get naff all

whats naff

noffing

I recently completed a rmx for someone who made it seem like it was for vinyl release. and now its completed they go and say it is pure digital. I had never heared of the label but checked it out before hand and vinyl releases on previous tracks checked out. so just before i sent the rmx to the guy i wanted to clarify it was for vinyl and have the label send me a rmx contract...

well now i decide if to keep the rmx for myself and play it in sets(out of principle), or to send it to him and let him use it for a shitty digital only release on a no name/no friendship label. I have learned one thing, and that is to have things in writing before wasting valuable time on working hard on a rmx for someone who you dont know from adam.

It has really really annoyed me how someone has the cheek to assume ill do the rmx under the assumption it will be released on vinyl, and then just expect me to hand it over for a substandard release.

seriously lol... has anyone actually recieved a royalty check from online sales?

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 seriously lol... has anyone actually recieved a royalty check from online sales?

I have, for $7 I think it was. That was for my first release. I just had an EP released, and I have 2 remixes that will be released on Bonzai. Will be interesting to see if I get any royalties from any of those. I'm not expecting much. I'm definitely not in this for the money.

For one of those remixes, I signed a contract that stated I would get 50% of any royalties paid to the original author of the song. This guy is a friend, so I didn't ask for any money up front. Not sure how it works with producers you don't know well. Could you really trust a stranger to tell the truth on how much money they've made off your remix? Remixes are just a good way to get your name out there, I don't expect much beyond that.

Yeh ok fair enough.
But the label is organising my original track to go out with several remixes, all strangers apart from one.
Thanks for the advice,ill just aim for 50/25/25.

sorry but the only money i've ever seen in this so far has been thru advances...

So your saying I should get a advance? I thought you were saying the remixers would get a advance.

even tho I might not ever see the money, i still wont the fair deal to go down.

Would you mind telling me how the deal went/would have gone down with "something good"?

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Originally posted by richg101 lots of stuff

pressing vinyl just isn't worth it anymore these days, the label has no risks and usually earns a lot more with digital only releases (with maybe additional cd release). even some of the bigger and better trance labels like joof have gone 100% digital. nowadays unless the track is from a big selling name, or has enough commercial factor to move the records, there's no use of putting it out on a vinyl.

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Originally posted by a98 lots of stuff.

true. but why do all of you mind so much the money from sales? the thing is to get promotion so u can get gigs after a while, theres still money there.

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Originally posted by a98 pressing vinyl just isn't worth it anymore these days, the label has no risks and usually earns a lot more with digital only releases (with maybe additional cd release). even some of the bigger and better trance labels like joof have gone 100% digital. nowadays unless the track is from a big selling name, or has enough commercial factor to move the records, there's no use of putting it out on a vinyl.

disagree 100%. im no big name and i have a release coming out on vinyl with discover in may.

strange as it may seem people still like to have vinyl. i still buy vinyl even though ive moved to cdjs and serato soley. vinyl still sells and always will.

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Originally posted by sterilis disagree 100%. im no big name and i have a release coming out on vinyl with discover in may. strange as it may seem people still like to have vinyl. i still buy vinyl even though ive moved to cdjs and serato soley. vinyl still sells and always will.

You just made me laugh. Vinyl will always sell, true. But in general vinyl releases cost more than the income they generate. Some of the biggest trance labels are stopping vinyl. How come that is? There's only 1 possible answer. It's considered doable to get vinyl releases to get break-even. Profits however, rarely. Companies need money to exist. Just few are solely in there to invest on getting vinyls out, often they have to take their losses and get some more money from their personal accounts in there to keep it all going. In dance music, vinyl has no significant future anymore.

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Originally posted by Storyteller You just made me laugh. Vinyl will always sell, true. But in general vinyl releases cost more than the income they generate. Some of the biggest trance labels are stopping vinyl. How come that is? There's only 1 possible answer. It's considered doable to get vinyl releases to get break-even. Profits however, rarely. Companies need money to exist. Just few are solely in there to invest on getting vinyls out, often they have to take their losses and get some more money from their personal accounts in there to keep it all going. In dance music, vinyl has no significant future anymore.

so you've agreed with me yet, i made you laugh i still dont get your point.

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Originally posted by a98 pressing vinyl just isn't worth it anymore these days, the label has no risks and usually earns a lot more with digital only releases (with maybe additional cd release). even some of the bigger and better trance labels like joof have gone 100% digital. nowadays unless the track is from a big selling name, or has enough commercial factor to move the records, there's no use of putting it out on a vinyl.

techno labels still release vinyl and make money off it. not as much as they used to, but its still worth doing.

i was surprised that the track and my rmx were being pressed, but i took the bait and then found out it was bullshit. fuck it. id sooner bin the whole rmx than let it get used for some shitty digital release on a shitty label. the vinyl made it worth it, now im not interested and would rather it stayed exclusive to me than i earn �20 from digital sales. the only bad part is that it doesnt get into any hands that might want it in their collection.

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Originally posted by sterilis so you've agreed with me yet, i made you laugh i still dont get your point.

I thought your statement was a bit naive. That's why I laughed.

I only agree on the idea that vinyl will keep on existing. As said. It has no significant future in the dance industry as it is right now. It will fade and be replaced. Quite soon. Only purists that are ready to spend some money will still put out a vinyl. Professional companies will not, for obvious reasons.

I've done a research project for school which involved about 20 labels from the house/trance and drum and bass scene. The labels ranged from $10 companies to those that earn hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. One thing was very clear. Vinyl sales still dropped. Many labels take the loss because of the prestige of vinyl. Also half of them claimed they would stop releasing vinyl within a year.

The Drum and bass part seems to be a bit behind, they're more or less where the house/trance was 3-5 years ago or so. Vinyl sales are dropping but digital sales are just getting off the ground. Even they see the end of vinyl coming closer. I can only imagine it will be similar for techno and other genres.

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Originally posted by Storyteller I thought your statement was a bit naive. That's why I laughed. I only agree on the idea that vinyl will be here keep on existing. As said. It has no significant future in the dance industry as it is right now. It will fade and be replaced. Quite soon. Only purists that are ready to spend some money will still put out a vinyl. Professional companies will not, for obvious reasons. I've done a research project for school which involved about 20 labels from the house/trance and drum and bass scene. The labels ranged from $10 companies to those that earn hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. One thing was very clear. Vinyl sales still dropped. Many labels take the loss because of the prestige of vinyl. Also half of them claimed they would stop releasing vinyl within a year. The Drum and bass part seems to be a bit behind, they're more or less where the house/trance was 3-5 years ago or so. Vinyl sales are dropping but digital sales are just getting off the ground. Even they see the end of vinyl coming closer. I can only imagine it will be similar for techno and other genres.

my statement was proving a point that not only big names can get a vinyl release. i dont see the naivity in that at all. the other part was vinyl will always sell as you agreed with so your post is meaningless.

Just realise you got to the right people in the right time. This will be very uncommon within the near future. Unless you get to find one of those purists mentioned in earlier posts. Your label is likely to take a loss on your release, that's what a98 was saying. The commercial interest just isn't there anymore.

It's a shame.

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