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Posted by StereoPrincess on Mar-09-2008 23:28:

The cold may NOT cause you to get sick, but the snow will..

Up to 85% of snowflakes are nucleiated by bacteria in the air.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/sc...8/snow.bugs.ap/

quote:


Study: Snowflakes may contain bacteria

Story Highlights
-Rain and snow need something to bind to in order to condense
-Often times, a bacteria harmful to plants serves as that binder
-The study was supported by a Louisiana State University research grant
-The most common bacteria found was Pseudomonas syringae

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Those beautiful snowflakes drifting out of the sky may have a surprise inside -- bacteria.

Most snow and rain forms in chilly conditions high in the sky and atmospheric scientists have long known that, under most conditions, the moisture needs something to cling to in order to condense.

Now, a new study shows a surprisingly large share of those so-called nucleators turn out to be bacteria that can affect plants.

"Bacteria are by far the most active ice nuclei in nature," said Brent C. Christner, an assistant professor of biological sciences at Louisiana State University.

Christner and colleagues sampled snow from Antarctica, France, Montana and the Yukon and they report their findings in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

In some samples as much as 85 percent of the nuclei were bacteria, Christner said in a telephone interview. The bacteria was most common in France, followed by Montana and the Yukon, and was even present to a lesser degree in Antarctica.

The most common bacteria found was Pseudomonas syringae, which can cause disease in several types of plants including tomatoes and beans.

The study found it in 20 samples of snow from around the world and subsequent research has also found it in summer rainfall in Louisiana.

The focus on Pseudomonas in the past has been to try and eliminate it, Christner said, but now that it turns out to be a major factor in encouraging snow and rain, he wonders if that is a good idea. Would elimination of this bacteria result in less rain or snow, or would it be replaced by other nuclei such as soot and dust?

"The question is, are they a good guy or a bad guy," he said, "and I don't have the answer to that."

What is clear is that Pseudomonas is effective at getting moisture in a cloud to condense, he pointed out. Killed bacteria are even used as an additive in snow making at ski resorts.

Which raises the question, Christner said, of whether planting crops known to be infected by Pseudomonas in areas experiencing drought might help increase precipitation there by adding more nuclei to the atmosphere.

It has been known that microbes and insects and algae blow around in the atmosphere, Christner added, "but the atmosphere has not been recognized as a place where things are active. That has been changing in the last decade. In a cloud you've got water, organic carbon," everything necessary to support a microorganism.

Virginia K. Walker, a biologist at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada, said other researchers have found bacteria serving as snow nuclei, but had not identified it as Pseudomonas.

"It's one of those great bacteria ... you can find them anywhere," said Walker, who was not part of the research team. "They are really interesting."

Charles Knight, a cloud physics expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., wasn't surprised by the finding, however.

At relatively warm temperatures of just a few degrees below freezing, bacteria are "remarkably effective" at attracting ice formation, said Knight, who also was not part of the research group.

The study was supported by a Louisiana State University research grant.




Bacteria - they run our lives, they control our bodies, they control our minds and now they control weather.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-09-2008 23:29:

don't eat yellow snow


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Mar-09-2008 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
don't eat yellow snow


fuck...


Posted by StereoPrincess on Mar-09-2008 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
don't eat yellow snow


don't eat any snow.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Mar-09-2008 23:32:


Posted by Adamo on Mar-09-2008 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
don't eat any snow.


fuck...


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Mar-09-2008 23:33:


Posted by Dj Gracjan on Mar-09-2008 23:42:

interesting. Thanks StereoPrincess


Posted by smuncky on Mar-09-2008 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
don't eat yellow snow


it wasn't me


Posted by Irishaddict on Mar-10-2008 00:08:

i shoveled this morning with my parents. the snow was up to my fucking WAIST. my WAIST!!!!!!11


Posted by Dj Gracjan on Mar-10-2008 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
i shoveled this morning with my parents. the snow was up to my fucking WAIST. my WAIST!!!!!!11


THAT's INTENSE! I thought I had it bad to my knee's!


Posted by chinamon on Mar-10-2008 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
i shoveled this morning with my parents. the snow was up to my fucking WAIST. my WAIST!!!!!!11


so there was only about a foot of snow out there?


Posted by Irishaddict on Mar-10-2008 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
so there was only about a foot of snow out there?


lol


Posted by StereoPrincess on Mar-10-2008 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
i shoveled this morning with my parents. the snow was up to my fucking WAIST. my WAIST!!!!!!11


blame the BACTERIA, THE BACTERIA!!!!!


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Mar-10-2008 02:25:

like i need any more reasons to hate snow


Posted by Al on Mar-10-2008 03:14:

Another discovery by captain obvious...

... I wonder how come they didn't discover this in the same time when they concluded that rain water is not drinkable

lol...snow to the waist and kneees.

my lawn is covered with a 5 1/2 foot snow mountain. (edit: iceberg...can't even pry this son of a ***%% apart)

I forecast that by June it should melt completely


keep your immune system strong and you'll be fine.....even if you eat yellow/orange snow....I don't know about red snow


Posted by StereoPrincess on Mar-10-2008 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jeeper_095
Another discovery by captain obvious...

... I wonder how come they didn't discover this in the same time when they concluded that rain water is not drinkable



ummm, do you even know what you are talking about?

the size of bacteria is thousands times smaller than dust particles and anything else floating around. It is a big discovery that bacteria can act as nuclei for snow. And it also is an important discovery that the bacteria is harmful.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Mar-10-2008 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
ummm, do you even know what you are talking about?

the size of bacteria is thousands times smaller than dust particles and anything else floating around. It is a big discovery that bacteria can act as nuclei for snow. And it also is an important discovery that the bacteria is harmful.


Team Margs PhD!


Posted by iant56 on Mar-10-2008 20:57:

Bear Grylls is way ahead of you on this one...


Posted by iant56 on Mar-10-2008 21:19:

correction: Bear Grylls does drink 'melted' snow... does not die...


Posted by StereoPrincess on Mar-10-2008 21:34:

hi ian!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Mar-10-2008 21:40:

This will make a great movie plot (lol)

We have scary acid rain movies, we have killer fog movies, and so we will now have deadly bacteria snow movies!!


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Mar-10-2008 21:44:

hmmm...i wonder what ppl from Quebec would think of this...they love to eat maple syrup poured onto "fresh" snow hehehe


Posted by iant56 on Mar-11-2008 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
hi ian!


Hi Margaret!


Posted by psyrel on Mar-11-2008 01:23:

Re: The cold may NOT cause you to get sick, but the snow will..

No need to panic though unless you're a tomato or bean plant.

quote:
The most common bacteria found was Pseudomonas syringae, which can cause disease in several types of plants including tomatoes and beans.


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