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Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 19:56:

Download muh mix...oh shut up and just download it!

I was up working late last night then couldn't sleep and started messing with Ableton, warping tracks, and came out with this....please excuse the beeps from Outlook you hear at least once. I totally told my computer to use the sound card for system sounds but doesn't seem to have listened and it went through my quattro.

Not perfect, but def listenable. 127-137bpm....though I crank the last track from 137-146 as it goes along since it's a 150bpm track (I played the track as a joke...it's cheesy as all hell and belongs in the 90s lol).

It came out right around 2 hours...totally unintentional. Just started playing and happened to finish at the 2 hour mark. Some longer tracks in there. :-p

DaveT - Humbled (Headphones Mix 10)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=09DLI3HU
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=09DLI3HU
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=09DLI3HU

This encode is still a little glitchy, but nothing like the first mp3 I posted!

01. Arnej - People Come, People Go (Original Mix)
02. Funabashi ft. Angelina - The Shelter (Mr. Pham remix)
03. Glenn Morrison - Blue Skies with Linda (Original Mix)
04. Robbie Rivera - Float Away (Gabriel & Dresden Re-Edit)
05. Solarscape - Get Along (Original Mix)
06. Marcus Schossow - Chase My Rabbit (Original Mix)
07. DJ Mehdi - Signature (Dave Dresden Edit)
08. D-6 - Printing Russia (Original Mix)
09. Santiago Nina & Damien Heck ft Antonia Lucas - Red Sky (Duderstadt Progressive Dub Mix)
10. Dash Berlin - Till the sky Falls (Dub Mix)
11. Armin van Buuren - The Sound of Goodbye (Nic Chagall Dreambeat Re-Edit)**
12. Richard Durand - Ledged (Raw and Hard Mix)
13. Nic Chagall vs. Sander van Doorn - Back to Riff (Katsarov-DJ Mashup)
14. Summer Channel ft. Patrick Scott - Undertow (Dirtyhertz & Taj Remix)
15. Robert Vadney ft. Rosebleed - Sadness in Disguise (Original Mix)
16. Mikka Leinonen - Forza (Original Mix)
17. Three Drives - Greece 2000 (Marcel Woods Mashup Remix) *Break that Crowd in Half Tune of the Week*
18. Basshunter - Now You're Gone (Sound Selektax Remix) *DaveT's "See? I have a Sense of Humor" as experienced outside Ruby Tune of the Year*

**Original "The Sound of Goodbye" was released in 2001 under the AvB alias Perpetuous Dreamer. New remixes released under AvB.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-12-2008 20:08:

I'm already going to hell, what now?


Posted by stefanoc on Mar-12-2008 20:28:

listening to it now.

did u use a midi controller or shortcut keys?


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 20:36:

Use 8 channels in Ableton 7 (odds to Channel 1 on mixer, evens on Channel 2) with customized shortcuts for certain things (instead of using a mouse 100% of the time) used on an old Pioneer DJM300 Mixer.

Would love to be able to afford a mood midi-controller and effects boards. Effects in Ableton can be iffy in quality.

Overall, nothing special. I usually get quirky (sometimes horrible) and do a lot more effects in Ableton but I did this in the middle of the night cause I couldn't sleep and didn't do too many. I was just mainly warping a bunch of tracks and playing around. Never started the set intended to actually record a whole mix and upload it. I usually just record what I do in Ableton all the time so I can listen to transitions I test out cause sometimes I think they sound good when I do it and then when I go back and listen I go ewww... hehehe

I'm no expert DJ!


Posted by Direct on Mar-12-2008 20:40:

No big sky?


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 20:44:

Do believe that was in a mix I did in December!

Overplayed at this point. :-p


Posted by ThomasPhan on Mar-12-2008 20:46:

Uh do I have to?
Don't want to go to hell, guess Ima have to download it tonight.
Got almost all tracks, but still love to see how your journey goes.
Don't be too hard on yourself, important thing is to have fun.
cheers DaveT, thank you


Posted by stefanoc on Mar-12-2008 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
Use 8 channels in Ableton 7 (odds to Channel 1 on mixer, evens on Channel 2) with customized shortcuts for certain things (instead of using a mouse 100% of the time) used on an old Pioneer DJM300 Mixer.

Would love to be able to afford a mood midi-controller and effects boards. Effects in Ableton can be iffy in quality.

Overall, nothing special. I usually get quirky (sometimes horrible) and do a lot more effects in Ableton but I did this in the middle of the night cause I couldn't sleep and didn't do too many. I was just mainly warping a bunch of tracks and playing around. Never started the set intended to actually record a whole mix and upload it. I usually just record what I do in Ableton all the time so I can listen to transitions I test out cause sometimes I think they sound good when I do it and then when I go back and listen I go ewww... hehehe

I'm no expert DJ!



how can you do that setup? from my understanding you have the odds connected to channel 1 and evens at channel 2, correct? is it just a multi output soundcard that you're using?


Posted by DJ Taj on Mar-12-2008 20:48:

I am in hell. Where do i go from here?


Posted by R!CH on Mar-12-2008 20:52:

hell seems like a cool place considering all the people who've been condemned there by organized religion. sounds like a ripper party!


Posted by ThomasPhan on Mar-12-2008 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Taj
I am in hell. Where do i go from here?


HI TAJ.


Posted by ThomasPhan on Mar-12-2008 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
hell seems like a cool place considering all the people who've been condemned there by organized religion. sounds like a ripper party!


+1


Posted by kingofthenight on Mar-12-2008 21:13:

great mix...dave!


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
how can you do that setup? from my understanding you have the odds connected to channel 1 and evens at channel 2, correct? is it just a multi output soundcard that you're using?


I use an M-Audio Quattro which has for mono-outs....so in stereo terms, channel 1/2 = Channel 1 into the mixer, channel 3/4 = Channel 2 into the mixer

A lot of DJs use just two channels in Ableton and go into two channels on the mixer...back-and-forth.

I set mine up so...

Ableton Channel 1 --> Mixer Channel 1
Ableton Channel 2 --> Mixer Channel 2
Ableton CHannel 3 --> Mixer Channel 1
Ableton Channel 4 --> Mixer Channel 2
Ableton Channel 5 --> Mixer Channel 1
Ableton Channel 6 --> Mixer Channel 2
Ableton CHannel 7 --> Mixer Channel 1
Ableton Channel 8 --> Mixer Channel 2

I do this so I can lineup tracks across ableton and makes it easier to work with my shortcuts...also makes it easier for me to line up tracks ahead of time and then I can easily swap them out without getting lost. I just find that it works easier for me...to each his own.

In time I would love to get a 4-stereo channel output Firewire Device so I can lineup samples, sound effects, etc to add more flare to tracks live in real-time. I do experiment with it a bit but I would never let myself do it when recording a live mix or in a club because it's just too easy to mess up since I would have to share channels between the actual tracks I am playing and samples.


Posted by diskodave on Mar-12-2008 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
Would love to be able to afford a mood midi-controller and effects boards. Effects in Ableton can be iffy in quality.


You don't need to buy hardware fx boards, instead you should buy some software vst fx plugins and install them within ableton. I'm not sure how much better these are then the standards VSTs that come with ableton, but here are a few FREE plugins I dug up for Windows:

SpatChain FX 5.1
click here


Chorus CH-2
click here


2RuleFilter
click here


xFlanger
click here


EMI TG12414 Filter
click here


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 22:10:

Well, in my experience trying to use software VSTs while using Ableton is a big risk!!! Have seen it just kill the sound quality. And that just has mistakes written all over it!

Maybe if I had a full on midi-controller and good VSTs....otherwise, I want what like Zabiela, Deadmau5, Markus, etc use... :-p

Anyhow, here's a shot of my ableton...you can see how I have the channels routed. Says sound engine is off because my quattro is at home! Note the master-out isn't actually used in my setup...isn't in most setups I see!


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 22:16:

Here's the general fx lineup I have setup for most tracks. I'll alternate between "sync" and "time" with ping-pong, delay, etc as I see fit.


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 22:17:

BTW, please give opinions...especially the final track LOL


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 22:35:

And BTW Taj...who mastered the digital version of your and DH's remix of Undertow? I ask because it seems that no matter what level I play it at, it's almost distorting...just doesn't have a true feel of clarity.

I bought the 320kbps version off of Beatport (gotta show my peeps my support somehow...with money!)...

and don't come back with some "use vinyl" argument, lol...

Just being honest. Version off of beatport just doesn't sound crisp and clean!

I love the remix...makes me want to run as fast as I can through the streets wearing headphones blasting the song! lol....


Posted by skell on Mar-12-2008 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
hell seems like a cool place considering all the people who've been condemned there by organized religion. sounds like a ripper party!


probably parties like this one all the time!


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 23:21:

Ugh I am seeing a bit of stuttering in the recording. Was not happening when playing live. Need to see if my raw recording has it...if so, going back to my thoughts that the 5400rpm in this temp MacBook Pro I have (my perm one will have a 7200rpm drive) might be cause it since I am playing through ABleton off this HD and recording back onto it at the same time.

5400rpm should be enough for audio and what I want to do, but APple uses crap Fajitsu drives......

Hoping my raw recording doesn't have the issue and mayhbe it just occured when encoding to mp3 (using lame 3.97)..

Update: Seems like my raw project in Audacity doesn't have the glitches...gar. Will export raw and using something else to encode to mp3!!! Wonder if Audacity --> Lame .mp3 has issues since Audacity breaks the audio up into 1MB chunks....

Update 2: Gar, even when exporting to WAV from Audacity it's becoming glitchy....note to self, never use Audacity to record agaiN!!! Looking around and seems to be a common issue. Gar. Trying AIFF export first...if that doesn't work, updating Audacity to the new beta...if that doesn't work, wonder if I can stack all the 1MB .au files in another program and it'll come out clean? This sucks.


Posted by diskodave on Mar-12-2008 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
Well, in my experience trying to use software VSTs while using Ableton is a big risk!!! Have seen it just kill the sound quality. And that just has mistakes written all over it!

Maybe if I had a full on midi-controller and good VSTs....otherwise, I want what like Zabiela, Deadmau5, Markus, etc use... :-p


I don't know about the sound quality getting worse. If that is so, how do producers run up to 100 (sometimes more) VSTs when they produce a track within ableton? I�m sure you have seen G&D�s channel strips when they play, they run tonssss of VSTs.


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 23:38:

I've seen them run things...but I rarely see them use any when playing live these days...

And they use logic when they produce tracks.


Posted by diskodave on Mar-12-2008 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
Here's the general fx lineup I have setup for most tracks. I'll alternate between "sync" and "time" with ping-pong, delay, etc as I see fit.


I don't use ableton, but are you putting the fx plug-ins directly onto the channel? Try creating a bus and place the fx plugin on the bus, and use sends to route the signal down the bus line. You can adjust the send level of the audio signal to have greater control of the fx. Again, I don�t use ableton� but this a technique used in producing.


Posted by DaveT on Mar-12-2008 23:45:

need more hardware for that....I just want to be able to control effects outside of the software. I actually don't mind using software VSTs in the end, just I don't want to have to fiddle with adjusting them in the software...would love an external controller to do that...to avoid mistakes!


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