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Posted by paa1605 on Mar-13-2008 16:26:

How do i create a bassline like this?

Can anyone describe how a bassline like the one used here by Simon Patterson - Strip Search is created. Im new to production and any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Posted by System101 on Mar-13-2008 16:58:

Re: How do i create a bassline like this?

you take some forks and spoons and you throw them down the stairs. you record the sound that they make. cut off the high end on the EQ and add some lows and there you have it.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-13-2008 17:03:

Re: Re: How do i create a bassline like this?

quote:
Originally posted by System101
you take some forks and spoons and you throw them down the stairs. you record the sound that they make. cut off the high end on the EQ and add some lows and there you have it.


Posted by paa1605 on Mar-13-2008 17:07:

very helpful


Posted by glsmaster on Mar-13-2008 19:31:

It have some kind of 303 flavor.

The pattern used is basically:

X---X---X---X--- < kick
-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx < bassline


Posted by derail on Mar-13-2008 20:23:

It sounds fairly direct/ up the center (I'd have to listen on headphones to hear if he's added any stereo width to the higher frequencies). It comes through in the mids decently, maybe a boost has been applied there...

There are a number of synths which will produce similar style basses. The pattern glsmaster mentioned (3 bass notes between each kick beat) seems correct. Play around with the length of the notes - maybe start with 32nd notes, then slightly shorten/ lengthen then until the pattern feels right. Also experiment with taking the whole bassline and just moving it ever so slightly to the left (so it's coming in a few ms earlier), see how that sounds - experiment.

A large part of sound also comes from compressors (straight up and/or sidechained), eqs, transient shapers, limiters...get to know these tools and what they can do for you. There are many ways to achieve certain results, the more you're familiar with your tools and can put them to use, the better off you'll be.

Also keep in mind, every sound in a track only sounds that way in relation to all the other sounds around it. You could create exactly the same bass sound, but if your kick sounds different, your pads/ leads sound different, the exact same bass sound will sound different.


Posted by paa1605 on Mar-13-2008 21:19:

Thanks very much for this advice. I'll experiment and see what i can come up with.


Posted by albertluah on Mar-13-2008 22:46:

arpeggiator


Posted by celestial thug on Mar-13-2008 23:01:

It sounds like a pretty streight forward psy bassline going on there. I think you would be able to recreate it with pretty much any bassline synth out there. Try Scorpion out, and distort it a little. You can altso use VB-1, dont laugh, its excellent for psy basslines like that one.

The trick is to drag the pickup all the way to the right nearly. and the plectar all the way to the left, leave the damper around 10, put it through quadrafuzz or equalent and an eq and play with the settings until you are satisfied. Use 32nd notes placed in the way that glsmaster explained. presto! youre done.


Posted by Stef on Mar-14-2008 12:26:

Going back to what glsmaster said, i think that more or less is the correct bass sequence for the track at hand and just about every other Patterson track. I would suggest using phoscyn 303 plugin with a bit of eq and outside distortion ive found it sounds very similar to alot of the psy basslines out there. Keep trying and good luck.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Mar-15-2008 09:07:

quote:
Originally posted by celestial thug
It sounds like a pretty streight forward psy bassline going on there. I think you would be able to recreate it with pretty much any bassline synth out there. Try Scorpion out, and distort it a little. You can altso use VB-1, dont laugh, its excellent for psy basslines like that one.

The trick is to drag the pickup all the way to the right nearly. and the plectar all the way to the left, leave the damper around 10, put it through quadrafuzz or equalent and an eq and play with the settings until you are satisfied. Use 32nd notes placed in the way that glsmaster explained. presto! youre done.

Sounds more Goa trancey (psy usually only has 2 baselines a bar not 3)... but anyway


Posted by celestial thug on Mar-15-2008 12:45:

quote:
Sounds more Goa trancey (psy usually only has 2 baselines a bar not 3).


it does? damn, and here ive been using a single bass for so long not even knowing that
















Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-18-2008 05:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Sounds more Goa trancey (psy usually only has 2 baselines a bar not 3)... but anyway

Ok, I'm slightly wrong here, and I'm not sure if this is worth the bump but anyway, better then making my own thread.

For those interested in making a full on psy bassline it consists of:
50% 100% 75%
k b o b

k=kick
b=bassline on root note (of the appropriate octave)
o=A note

With the psy feel created by having a shortish attack and smallish release as well. It's generally with a saw waveform too, but I'm sure you could do something interesting with an fm'd square and such too.

with the percentages being velocities (volume).

Most interestingly, I was listening to distance to goa 5 the other day, and it appears that one of the songs actually contains that pattern but with hi hats instead of the bass (well actually not instead of, at some parts at the same time as, which sounds quite good/interesting). I think thats an idea I might yoink.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/adb..._on_hi_hats_mp3



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