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Beatport Greed Stinks
i do like the free tracks they give out....
but thats about the only reason i visit that site.
If it werent for beatport, I would just download shit for free so i think its good.
this thread stinks.
Ok...
While I don't know the whole story behind supporters of Beatport as an early business, they do need to set some sort of standard or quota. Bandwidth is not free, although anyone with some technical background does know that bandwidth is cheap.
I think that the problem is that everyone and their mother owns a label nowadays; I'm unfamiliar with exact business quotas Beatport had set for labels but although variety is good, perhaps smaller labels should unite or release tracks under one guise. Just an idea, that might keep them from falling off their charts, that's if Beatport would allow it.
I generally use Trackitdown and audiojelly if i can, beatport prices take the piss now especially on back catalog stuff, do I really want to pay 1.49 for a track that was relased in 1998? Do I bollocks.
It's a business you dimwit, of course they need to cut people who aren't making sales.
Do television shows get kept on the air if no one watches?
Although these type of threads are annoying...especially coming from a tranceaddict in training...
Has Beatport explained what the logistics of keeping the underperforming labels in the mix of things are? If they arent saving much money by cutting these people off I think its a mistake. The reason why is that these small labels and small artists actually do a lot of evalgelist word of mouth marketing for Beatport, and pimp the shit out of Beatport just because a few of their tracks are on it. I dont get why Beatport would cut off free word of mouth marketers in exchange for housing their tracks, slowing the growth of the site just because some tunes arent selling. And I dont know if people who do want to stick around are going to pimp their own music around so that their music can stay on Beatport, artists do have a sense of pride and dont want to seem desperate to get their music bought/heard.
I think Beatport reasoning might be too many labels and producers are dumping not that great music into the system so its diluting the quality and making it harder for the consumers (DJ's) to find the good music so if the underperforming artists are dropped off then it would let the good stuff bubble up to the top easier. Also I think they are betting that the artists/labels will step up their promotion game to stay on Beatport, which will help everyone involved.
Personally I support Beatport as an integral part of EDM...I guess we will see how this plays out in the next 6 months.
there are really plenty of other sources for buying great music
anyways this thing with beatport has more to do with protecting the integrity of their brand by eliminating labels that release shit music
of course the problem with this is they cut off intentionally small forward-thinking labels as well
and then there are some HUGE labels like paduraru's that release a ton of sub-par stuff.
this has little to do with their 'business' and 'sales' though, because they are essentially cutting their revenue too. Like I said, they want to protect their brand and release high quality, professional tracks.
that said, boomkat.com, traxsource.com, and more are your friends
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| Originally posted by nefardec there are really plenty of other sources for buying great music |
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| Originally posted by LionsLair And if those sites hired talented GUI(interface) programmers and artists they would be able to grow their marketshare and bring competition to Beatport. The best part about Beatport is the interface, its what brings in the traffic which in turn brings in the artists and music which in turn brings in more traffic. |
The beatport interface is horrible, much prefer TID and audiojelly where browsing doesn't take forever
First, I agree Beatport needs to redo it's site and make it easy HTML. It can be a pain in the ass to navigate through...and if you make a mistake...I always forget you can't just hit refresh or use the regular back-forward button!
Anyhow, I am glad there is a quota system, and it's not harsh. All a LABEL (whole label, not a single track) has to make is $300 in gross sales in a quarter. If a label's tracks are all $1.99, then it just needs to sell 151 tracks from its entire library on Beatport ..if it doesn't do it, they are put on probation and must hit $600 gross.
Beyond that, and I know it'd be hard to setup and be fair overall, but I think it would be nice if there was a committee that could choose special exceptions whether for a single track or for a label...cause a startup label out there might have some quality stuff no one knows about and never finsd on Beatport...would be nice if these small labels got a little promotion to give them a boost and once they hit a sales quota, if at all, their promotion is removed. Something to help the smaller guys out.
But in the end there are wayyyyyyyyyy too many labels these days. Seems like everyone and their mother runs their own label these das and if you try to navigate heavil into Beatport, it's just frustrating at all the weak stuff on there. Again, not the fastest site to navigate through!
Beatport also needs to do better qualit control on duplicate tracks...I'll see the same track on there like ten times...released on different dates, across several labels (prob different countries). They should just make it that if a track is signed to a specific label in the countr you have in our profile, it onl shows that one...although sometimes the track will be cheaper from one label than another.
Anyhow, I do mainl use Beatport...and it's mainl because I just know about it more. But when a track is not on there or I can't buy it because I'm in the US, I'll use other sites like audiojelly and others.
End of speech.
"Whistle Blower"? Please, spare me. This is old news.
Although I ranted about Beatports price increases a few months back I still use them. They still have a good catalogue and sell .wavs.
Trackitdown is about �0.20 cheaper for most older tracks so I'd get it there if possible, but Beatport seems to have more stuff, even though TID has the odd rarity that Beatport doesnt.
Beatports flash doesnt bother me, I just pay with Paypal to keep my CC info off their flash site. Beatport dont charge extra for using Paypal, Trackitdown do if under �10 for the order. I quite like the flash actually as you find a surprising large number of good (prog) tunes by going to new releases and just listening to every sample on the list. Because of Beatports layout you can listen to an awful lot more samples in the same period than you can on other download sites.
So in summary, good still, if a little expensive. But still cheaper buying two or three tracks than ordering the CD/vinyl release through the post and having it take days to get here.
I got some tracks from Positiva's digital download site the other day and was quite impressed by the pricing, a quid a track for 320. They didn't have much of their back catalog on there though so I picked up:
Ayla - Ayla (Taucher mix)
PVD - We Are Alive (Club Mix)
Trisco - Muzak (Steve Lawler Mix)
Given the current exchange rate, and my ip location, Beatport is dirt cheap right now!
Gonna let you guys in on a little secret that will save you alot of $$$!
Beatport offers tracks for $1.49 / $1.99 / $2.49 + $1.00 for .wav handling...
but www.dancerecords.com offers .wav (even for new releases) for $1.39! The only thing is that their selection / interface could use a bit of work - but if you're willing to dig, they have alot of great stuff for cheap ($0.89 for 320kbps mp3).
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| Originally posted by DarkMemoria Gonna let you guys in on a little secret that will save you alot of $$$! Beatport offers tracks for $1.49 / $1.99 / $2.49 + $1.00 for .wav handling... but www.dancerecords.com offers .wav (even for new releases) for $1.39! The only thing is that their selection / interface could use a bit of work - but if you're willing to dig, they have alot of great stuff for cheap ($0.89 for 320kbps mp3). |
Re: Beatport Greed Stinks
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| Originally posted by wb26 |
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| Originally posted by sleepydragon you dont want to pay �1.49 for a track on beatport so you go on trackitdown.net and pay �1.49 for a track??? hmmm... |
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| Originally posted by Jono404 I generally use Trackitdown and audiojelly if i can, beatport prices take the piss now especially on back catalog stuff, do I really want to pay 1.49 for a track that was relased in 1998? Do I bollocks. |
The thing that annoys me about beatport as I've said a million times is their wav pricing. As someone earlier mentioned bandwidth is cheap. The "wav handling fee" should be lowered or they should switch to flac. Dancerecords selection isn't nearly as deep, but the do have some good stuff, and for $1.39 a wav it's a no brainer imo.
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