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Posted by guerra-monstru on Mar-28-2008 18:43:

b/c Mag still has cold war mentality that everyone is out to get Russia

quote:
He became a billionaire by tunnelling through the ruins of the Soviet economy. Now Roman Abramovich has bought the world's biggest drill.

Chelsea Football Club's Russian owner has forked out �80million on the boring-machine, which will have a 63ft diameter, almost a quarter wider than its nearest rival.

The acquisition was announced in Moscow yesterday by Mr Abramovich's construction firm Infrastruktura. Few details were given but there was immediate speculation that the drill would be used to build a tunnel linking Russia and America under the 55-mile wide Bering Strait.


The tycoon is thought to share outgoing Russian President Vladimir Putin's vision of a "WorldLink" tunnel connecting the frozen wastes of Chukotka, the Russian region of which Mr Abramovich is governor, to Alaska.


"It is one of Putin's dream projects and he has already had secret talks with Washington about it," claimed an insider.


"He sees Russia as the hub of the world and wants Europe to transport its goods, as well as his own, across his country to the U.S."

The drill, which will take German firm Herrenknecht AG two years to build, would create the world's longest undersea tunnel and reunite the land masses of Russia and America for the first time since the last Ice Age. Such a tunnel was first mooted a century ago under Tsar Nicholas II but foundered with the advent of the Russian Revolution.


The idea was revived after the Soviet Union's collapse but was shelved in Russia's financial meltdown of 1998.


Officials insist a tunnel could be ready within ten years, and would repay construction costs by stimulating up to 100million tons of freight traffic each year, as well as supplying oil, gas and electricity from Siberia to the U.S. and Canada.


Mr Abramovich's spokesman John Mann denied the order of the giant drill was related to any plans for a tunnel in Chukotka. However, the tycoon denied any plans to separate from his wife Irina in October 2006 - five months before announcing his divorce.


U.S. authorities said they had not received any definite plans for a tunnel to be built under the Bering Strait and would not comment on whether there had been any direct approach from Mr Putin.


The boring machine which currently holds the record as the world's biggest has a 50ft diameter and was bought by China to build a tunnel under the Yangtze.


The tunnels bored beneath the Channel to link the UK with France were created by machines with diameters of 25ft.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...in_page_id=1770


Posted by atbell on Mar-28-2008 20:25:

On multiple occasions in the business world I've heard people say "never trust a Russian." There are plenty of people who have yet to throw aside the cold war thinking.


Posted by Lira on Mar-28-2008 22:12:

Such a tunnel would be magnificent!


Posted by guerra-monstru on Mar-28-2008 23:33:

anybody know what that white stuff on his mustache is??


Posted by George Smiley on Mar-28-2008 23:43:

Shevchenko's love slime?


Posted by guerra-monstru on Mar-29-2008 00:04:

but so far from chealsea?


Posted by jerZ07002 on Mar-29-2008 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by guerra-monstru
anybody know what that white stuff on his mustache is??


the real way he made his billions: cocaine.


Posted by Magnetonium on Mar-30-2008 11:35:



Abramovich is a focking idiot. Just like most of other Russian billionaires who illegally made their billions in the 1990s raping the country and stealing from the people. He spends hundreds of millions for stupid sports (no offense to Chelsea), yet not enough for Russian people, infrastructure, economy, etc.

Russia unfortunately will have problems for many years to come because no leader will be able to change it for good because of the massive bureaucracy and corruption - and no, I am not talking about returning to Yeltsinism or Gorbachev days - thats only a step back. And neither I am talking about going to communist days - I am talking about something rather Putin-like figure who can clamp down harder on corruption and mismanagement/abuse of many aspects of life in Russia.

Right now Abramovich is showing his stupidity but trying to "impress" with the size of a boring drill - wow, I am so totally impressed (not) - lets see how well it works. I am tired of the old Soviet mentality that quantity / size is better than quality. He should spend his money for more useful things.

EDIT: I am not very trusting of these oligarch Russians either. We'll talk when progress is made.


Posted by George Smiley on Mar-30-2008 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Abramovich is a focking idiot. Just like most of other Russian billionaires who illegally made their billions in the 1990s raping the country and stealing from the people. He spends hundreds of millions for stupid sports (no offense to Chelsea), yet not enough for Russian people, infrastructure, economy, etc.

Russia unfortunately will have problems for many years to come because no leader will be able to change it for good because of the massive bureaucracy and corruption - and no, I am not talking about returning to Yeltsinism or Gorbachev days - thats only a step back. And neither I am talking about going to communist days - I am talking about something rather Putin-like figure who can clamp down harder on corruption and mismanagement/abuse of many aspects of life in Russia.

Right now Abramovich is showing his stupidity but trying to "impress" with the size of a boring drill - wow, I am so totally impressed (not) - lets see how well it works. I am tired of the old Soviet mentality that quantity / size is better than quality. He should spend his money for more useful things.

EDIT: I am not very trusting of these oligarch Russians either. We'll talk when progress is made.

Lol would it have been possible for any poster to have missed the point of the OP any more than Magnetonium?!


Posted by Magnetonium on Mar-30-2008 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Lol would it have been possible for any poster to have missed the point of the OP any more than Magnetonium?!


LOL, I get the point, George - which is EXACTLY the point that I've been making for many years - that Russia is trying to get closer to the West, democracy, build friendships and economic partnerships - while all this time often enough it gets slapped with humiliations and criticism.

Besides, Russian companies have invested a lot of money in European and North American companies. But only too often Russian companies get sidestepped because of media driven fear of Russians - for example, when Severstal's lucrative merger offer with Arcelor was turned down in favour of a more complicated Arcelor-Mittal one. Thats just one of many examples.

This tunnel is just another of countless Russian attempts to steer towards democracy and one economic front. But we'll see where it will actually lead. In the end it might only cost a lot of money and might not even live up to the proposed benefits - is it really that expensive to ship goods across Atlantic for EU?



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