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The Pew Research Center Obama Weathers the Wright Storm, Clinton Faces Credibility Problem National Discontent Approaches 20-Year High, Bush Approval at 28% Released: March 27, 2008 Navigate this report Summary of Findings Section 1: Rev. Wright, and Obama's Race and Religion Section 2: The Democratic Primary Section 3: Voters Targeted by Robo-Calls Section 4: The General Election Section 5: Political Values, Traits and Emotions Section 6: Dismal Views of the National Economy About the Survey Topline Questionnaire Topline Questionnaire Summary of Findings The videos of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's controversial sermons and Barack Obama's subsequent speech on race and politics have attracted more public attention than any events thus far in the 2008 presidential campaign. A majority of the public (51%) said they heard "a lot" about the videos, and an even larger percentage (54%) said they heard a lot about Obama's speech, according to the weekly News Interest Index. Most voters aware of the sermons say they were personally offended by Wright's comments, and a sizable minority (35%) says that their opinion of Obama has grown less favorable because of Wright's statements. However, the Wright controversy does not appear to have undermined support for Obama's candidacy. The latest nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted March 19-22 among 1,503 adults, finds that Obama maintains a 49% to 39% advantage over Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, which is virtually unchanged from than the 49% to 40% lead he held among Democrats in late February. Obama and Clinton continue to enjoy slight advantages over John McCain in general election matchups among all registered voters. The new polling suggests that the Wright affair has not hurt Obama's standing, in part because his response to the controversy has been viewed positively by voters who favor him over Clinton. Obama's handling of the Wright controversy also won a favorable response from a substantial proportion of Clinton supporters and even from a third of Republican voters. More than eight-in-ten supporters of Obama (84%) who have heard about the controversy over Wright's sermons say he has done an excellent or good job of dealing with the situation. Reactions from Clinton supporters, and Republicans, are on balance negative; however, 43% of Clinton voters and a third of Republican voters who have heard about the affair express positive opinions about Obama's handling of the situation. The survey finds that, in general, Obama has a highly favorable image among Democratic voters, including white Democrats. But while Obama's personal image is more favorable than Clinton's, certain social beliefs and attitudes among older, white, working-class Democratic voters are associated with his lower levels of support among this group. In particular, white Democrats who hold unfavorable views of Obama are much more likely than those who have favorable opinions of him to say that equal rights for minorities have been pushed too far; they also are more likely to disapprove of interracial dating, and are more concerned about the threat that immigrants may pose to American values. In addition, nearly a quarter of white Democrats (23%) who hold a negative view of Obama believe he is a Muslim. Less educated and older white Democrats, who have not backed Obama in most primary elections, hold these values more commonly than do other Democrats. These patterns suggest the potential for future reverberations from the Wright controversy if Obama wins the Democratic nomination. More conservative beliefs about equal rights and race are not only related to negative opinions of Obama among Democrats, suggesting the potential for defections among Democratic voters, but also are associated with negative views of him in the electorate at large. An analysis of the survey finds that holding conservative positions on political and social values is associated with a greater likelihood of supporting McCain over Obama among Republicans, Democrats and independents, and all demographic groups. In contrast, however, this pattern is much less apparent in the Clinton-McCain matchup, excepting views about women in leadership roles. One of the few negative trends for Obama following the Wright affair is that a larger number of conservative Republicans hold a very unfavorable opinion of him in the new poll than did so in February. The survey also finds that Obama no longer enjoys the favorable image rating advantage over McCain among independents that was apparent in previous polls. more here: http://people-press.org/reports/dis...p3?ReportID=407

Unfortunate, and not terribly surprising.

obama is a muslim.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 obama is a muslim.

See? That's why we cite sources... if Obama was a Muslim, would Rev. Jeremiah Wright's sermons have mattered?

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Originally posted by Lira See? That's why we cite sources... if Obama was a Muslim, would Rev. Jeremiah Wright's sermons have mattered?

He joined the church in Chicago because he had too in order for the black community in Chicago to support him. It is the way things work in Chicago, sabias?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru He joined the church in Chicago because he had too in order for the black community in Chicago to support him. It is the way things work in Chicago, sabias?

Says someone who has obviously never spent time in Chicago.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Says someone who has obviously never spent time in Chicago.

And you assume this why? Im a world traveler and I spend time in chicago due to Mccormick place. They hold shows for medical supplies which I purchase. Plus it's only the truth since this is also coming from someone who has had met Richard Daley on a 1 to 1 basis.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru And you assume this why? Im a world traveler and I spend time in chicago due to Mccormick place. They hold shows for medical supplies which I purchase. Plus it's only the truth since this is also coming from someone who has had met Richard Daley on a 1 to 1 basis.

I only assumed that because that is not "the way things work in Chicago", nor what actually transpired in Obama's life. But I'm glad you've made it to conventions in Chicago. It is a beautiful city.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru He joined the church in Chicago because he had too in order for the black community in Chicago to support him. It is the way things work in Chicago, sabias?

Oh, so it's not just Paris that is well worth a mass any more? And, let me guess: You know he's a Muslim, but there's no way you can prove it, right?

Can someone tell me why these newcomers are so reluctant to back up their words with reliable sources? We don't think you're lying or anything... we just want to know exactly what it is that you're talking about =/

My name is Obama, and I slept with yo mama. Now that's change you can believe in.

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Originally posted by Lira Oh, so it's not just Paris that is well worth a mass any more? And, let me guess: You know he's a Muslim, but there's no way you can prove it, right? Can someone tell me why these newcomers are so reluctant to back up their words with reliable sources? We don't think you're lying or anything... we just want to know exactly what it is that you're talking about =/

People like Obama don't have a religious preference they just follow in order to take advantage of fools. I know their type I work with career politicians all the time. And like I said I've been to Chicago several times for a long time and I have met the Mayor and have had a private conversation with him.
I don't have to try and convince you because it would probably not work. But trust me after 8 years of working with beaucrats you realize that they are mostly all the same. Especially those seeking more power.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru People like Obama don't have a religious preference they just follow in order to take advantage of fools. I know their type I work with career politicians all the time. And like I said I've been to Chicago several times for a long time and I have met the Mayor and have had a private conversation with him. I don't have to try and convince you because it would probably not work. But trust me after 8 years of working with beaucrats you realize that they are mostly all the same. Especially those seeking more power.

This is still based on insinuation. How does meeting Chicago's mayor make you an expert on Barack Obama? They call the same city home, but are not the same person, don't share identical beliefs, and are drastically different in personality. The fact that you've visited Chicago on business a few times does not make you an expert on the social structure there. And the fact that you don't trust some of the bureaucrats that you work with hardly means you can paint every politician you've never met with the same brush. If you don't trust Obama or don't believe he is a good candidate, please use something other than your personal prejudices about politicians or anecdotal evidence about your personal thoughts on a city you've visited three times to back it up. In other words, use evidence.

I personally dont give a fuck about US elestions.

Thats all I got to say in this thread.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru I don't have to try and convince you because it would probably not work.

Hold on right there... do you really think that I'd be asking for sources and whatnot if I didn't considered changing my mind in case you provided a good way of backing up your words? What the hell do you think we debate for?

I'm definitely puzzled about why you're even here then - do you take this to be some kind of therapy in which you just tell others what you think for the sake of talking to someone?

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Originally posted by Lira Hold on right there... do you really think that I'd be asking for sources and whatnot if I didn't considered changing my mind in case you provided a good way of backing up your words? What the hell do you think we debate for? I'm definitely puzzled about why you're even here then - do you take this to be some kind of therapy in which you just tell others what you think for the sake of talking to someone?

No I am here basically because I spend a lot of time on the internet and I need something to make time go by faster. Making small chit chat goes a long way

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Making small chit chat goes a long way

well here there's a huge difference between small chit-chat and baseless assertions.

we try and make those distinctions fairly clear here for, you know, principle and stuff.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru No I am here basically because I spend a lot of time on the internet

.........and that folks explains (esplains) the whole issue

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru No I am here basically because I spend a lot of time on the internet and I need something to make time go by faster. Making small chit chat goes a long way

Oh, I see. In that case, plase don't take it the wrong way, but I think the Chill Out Room might be more suitable for your needs

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Originally posted by Lira Hold on right there... do you really think that I'd be asking for sources and whatnot if I didn't considered changing my mind in case you provided a good way of backing up your words?

What a truly beautiful idea. Thank you.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru People like Obama don't have a religious preference they just follow in order to take advantage of fools. I know their type I work with career politicians all the time. And like I said I've been to Chicago several times for a long time and I have met the Mayor and have had a private conversation with him. I don't have to try and convince you because it would probably not work. But trust me after 8 years of working with beaucrats you realize that they are mostly all the same. Especially those seeking more power.

For the freedom and for pleasure, nothing ever lasts forever

Everybody wants to rule the world.

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