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raped by parkwest

not really surprised at all, but parkwest oversold tickets. tried to get there early, but i forgot about ultra ending at that time, so it took me over an hour to move my car 2 blocks to park. they were charging $200 at the door. i just ended up selling my tickets when i saw the size of the line. i personally didn't want to wait a 2-3 hour line.

/rant

not surprised one bit. sorry for those that actually paid that price.

$200 for Armin?!

What a fucking joke!

thats so interesting because the place wasnt super packed AT ALL. i mean there was room in the front during armin's set. enough said. normally you gotta fight off the fanboys and be happy if you're only getting slightly squished.

and the door drama was to be expected

no dj charges 200, thats wierd

You have to think the clubs do whatever they want during this time to make as much money as possible from the people willing to shell it out... this had nothing to do with Armin & crew.

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd no dj charges 200, thats wierd

Think before you type, sport.

I knew they were going to pull that crap. As for the line out side and room inside it was the fire marshal. Hence the $200 entry, you were paying for 2 people because the marshal was all over that place.

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Originally posted by llavoe I knew they were going to pull that crap. As for the line out side and room inside it was the fire marshal. Hence the $200 entry, you were paying for 2 people because the marshal was all over that place.

but if that's true about the fire marshal, then why is everyone saying that inside there was room? i heard the second room had plenty of space during armin's set. and now ambs is saying even in armin's room there was some space. i would assume that means they weren't at capacity yet?

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin not surprised one bit. sorry for those that actually paid that price.

the worst part is that staff was selling tickets within the line. that means people at the end of the line were paying $200 a ticket for this, not knowing that they are going to be waiting outside for another 2+ hours.

Sucks that people had to pay the 200 dollars up front to get in. But for those who did got in, How was Markus's set?
Sorry that I couldn't go last night cause I had issues with the time.

I got there just after 12 and was still waiting in line at 3am! they then started offering everyone free entry to ferry at the ultra afterparty!?!?wtf

There were maybe 200 people locked out i think, half chose the ferry option, I waited and eventually LP turned up and let the 1st 20 who were left in line in the back with him. He seemed apologetic but we still have 3 full tickets from my friends who gave up waiting after an hour. They seriously need to hand out refunds for this, after 3 hours of waiting we only stayed half an hour before leaving due to just being fucked from waiting in line.

As already said as soon as we got their some gimp was walking the line asking if anyone needed to buy a ticket and when they agreed to the $200 fee they were taken out of line and let right in!

I wasn't really interested in seeing armin but went because my friends wanted to see him, I just find it criminal how they can act this way and I will be seeking a refund on at least the 3 tickets we didn't use!

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Originally posted by Charlie Brown I got there just after 12 and was still waiting in line at 3am! they then started offering everyone free entry to ferry at the ultra afterparty!?!?wtf There were maybe 200 people locked out i think, half chose the ferry option, I waited and eventually LP turned up and let the 1st 20 who were left in line in the back with him. He seemed apologetic but we still have 3 full tickets from my friends who gave up waiting after an hour. They seriously need to hand out refunds for this, after 3 hours of waiting we only stayed half an hour before leaving due to just being fucked from waiting in line. As already said as soon as we got their some gimp was walking the line asking if anyone needed to buy a ticket and when they agreed to the $200 fee they were taken out of line and let right in! I wasn't really interested in seeing armin but went because my friends wanted to see him, I just find it criminal how they can act this way and I will be seeking a refund on at least the 3 tickets we didn't use!

seems the way they work is everyone that bought presales basically donated to parkwest. they held everyone that had presales outside because they knew they'd either:

a. just get tired of it and leave, pocketing the money from the presale ticket
b. get desperate enough and dish out the $200 cover charge to get in.

either way parkwest wins i guess.

It was expected that's why I got around 11pm, I personally enjoyed Markus set better than Armin...

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Originally posted by JD8180 seems the way they work is everyone that bought presales basically donated to parkwest. they held everyone that had presales outside because they knew they'd either: a. just get tired of it and leave, pocketing the money from the presale ticket b. get desperate enough and dish out the $200 cover charge to get in. either way parkwest wins i guess.

I don't doubt they were forced to stop letting people in but my beef is they surely know the capacity of the club and have had all the related permits carried out to get this capacity figure. Therefore why would everyone in possession of a ticket for this sold out event not have a spot inside?

Answer = They continued to charge people turning up without tickets, surely this makes the sale of tickets without giving the ticket holder what they paid for illegal? I don't see how it could be seen any other way and I'd be amazed if everyone with tickets who was shafted for 3 hours outside lastnight let this slide. 200/300 people each paying $50-100 = a lot of money!

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Originally posted by JD8180 but if that's true about the fire marshal, then why is everyone saying that inside there was room? i heard the second room had plenty of space during armin's set. and now ambs is saying even in armin's room there was some space. i would assume that means they weren't at capacity yet?

Sounds to me like the whole night was a mess. I would think that building codes weren't up to par, or the people working the club just didn't care. To leave all pre-sales in line for 3 hours makes it seem like they wanted the place to look busy, and were trying to get whoever wanted to pay the most to be let in first. I was not there and knew that it was not going to be handled properly at all. Sorry for those who had complications

the same shit happened at last years event as well. my boy was in line for 2 1/2 hours, missed armin and left within an hour and went home. i was gunna go but decided to hit up the blank n jones, sander van doorn, above n beyond party at karu n y lounge...glad i made the right choice.

My friend and I got there at like 9. We asked some security guys outside how much it was to get in.

The first one said $80. The second guy said $100. When it was 10PM, the third one said they were starting at $100. Then this guy with the megaphone said they were starting at $120 when the line was forming.

A Friend of mine was on a list but wasn't attending, so I stepped off the line and see if I could use his name. Turns out the name wasn't even on the list. So I said fuck it and went to Ferry instead. 10 minutes later, I heard the price bumped to $200. Crazy.

As I essentially said in another post made here in reply to one of Noel Sanger's posts:

Overcharging like that to the empth degree is just completely anti-dance music...especially when they already had the event "sold out..." i just saw all of this coming when i saw Wantickets post that more tickets were suddenly avaliable, but for maybe before 2AM entry as opposed to the previous before 3AM tickets... More than greed to oversell like you're an airline...Fly Club Space and Parkwest airlines... I think the people that got screwed the most were the event-hopping type who wished to catch all of their favorites wherever they were spinning...

They were charging $120 @ 10AM this mmorning @ Space. Even the workers didn't think it was worth it!

I will highly consider the Fuck You pass next year!

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Originally posted by ctt300 As I essentially said in another post made here in reply to one of Noel Sanger's posts: Overcharging like that to the empth degree is just completely anti-dance music...especially when they already had the event "sold out..." i just saw all of this coming when i saw Wantickets post that more tickets were suddenly avaliable, but for maybe before 2AM entry as opposed to the previous before 3AM tickets... More than greed to oversell like you're an airline...Fly Club Space and Parkwest airlines... I think the people that got screwed the most were the event-hopping type who wished to catch all of their favorites wherever they were spinning...

i guarantee that this had nothing to do with armada crew, just space management. they just oversold the presales by an insane amount, because as i was trying to sell my tickets within the line, i'd say that 98% of them had presales. i had to keep waiting until i saw new people go to the back of the line and it took me about an hour to finally find someone that needed tickets.

that makes me believe that this had nothing to do with parkwest letting in too many people at the door without presales. parkwest just got greedy i bet seeing how much presales were selling, so put god knows how many tickets for sale, even if it's way more than their capacity.

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Originally posted by mar46017 They were charging $120 @ 10AM this mmorning @ Space. Even the workers didn't think it was worth it! I will highly consider the Fuck You pass next year!

i think the "fuck you" pass seems to be the best deal space has ever offered...anyone get it and have comments on how well it worked?

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Originally posted by mar46017 They were charging $120 @ 10AM this mmorning @ Space. Even the workers didn't think it was worth it! I will highly consider the Fuck You pass next year!

I am just not going to Space next year. The only thing I go for any of LP's clubs is Sander on the terrace, and that was pretty lame this year.

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Originally posted by JD8180 i guarantee that this had nothing to do with armada crew, just space management. they just oversold the presales by an insane amount, because as i was trying to sell my tickets within the line, i'd say that 98% of them had presales. i had to keep waiting until i saw new people go to the back of the line and it took me about an hour to finally find someone that needed tickets. that makes me believe that this had nothing to do with parkwest letting in too many people at the door without presales. parkwest just got greedy i bet seeing how much presales were selling, so put god knows how many tickets for sale, even if it's way more than their capacity.

I'm with you here. Of course it's Space/Parkwest management's pure greed. No way would a promoter do this. They could have just kept selling tickets on Wantickets or Ticketweb.com. I'll tell you one thing: it is not wise to go to any event much later than the event starts or without a presale or willcall, because they can gouge you like this.

I got into Armada within 20 mins of getting in line at 11PM with my presale. Too much later and all this hell starting happening...

Wow, must have just missed this mess. I got to Parkwest right at midnight and walked right in with my ticket. No line, no fuss, nothing. And I must say, the entire night there was definitely some more space left in the club. I did see the fire marshall scurrying through a few times, but even he had plenty of room to move about. The situation really sucks as I know a number of people who waited forever outside, most of who just finally gave up.....

As far as the party itself, I stayed in the main room the entire night and had a blast. Armin played basically his normal set time, and Markus didn't finish up until 8!!! The vibe and music were amazing.

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Originally posted by JD8180 but if that's true about the fire marshal, then why is everyone saying that inside there was room? i heard the second room had plenty of space during armin's set. and now ambs is saying even in armin's room there was some space. i would assume that means they weren't at capacity yet?

That Parkwest incident is just a quick glimpse of how they hate on trance in Miami. I bet you couldn't even move @ Space, probably over crowded like always. Reason why? House music was playing. To be honest the line @ Parkwest was 10 times longer than the one @ Space. But there excuse to hate on Trance was that the Fire Marshall was not allowing anymore people. Ha! Ha! Blame it on the authorities, maybe some people will believe it. I didn't because I was inside and it sure wasn't that packed, it never reached capacity. Space, Parkwest, Vice & Cameo's are all a bunch of trance haters. Enough said!

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