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Indie kids talking nonsense about techno

Today I had the displeasure of encountering an indie kid blogger who wrote in his recent post that M83's Couleurs is 'proper minimal techno' (listen to Couleurs for reference here: http://www.myspace.com/m83), and accused Moby of being a part of the nu-rave movement because of his obvious references to dance music on his new album ('cause y'know, back then it was all rave).

When I told him that Couleurs is hardly minimal techno and added some reasoning as well, he responded that it must be minimal because 'it has 4x4 beat and some guitars, just like Sascha Funke's and Justus K�hnke's new albums do' ('cause Kompakt artists is all you need to know about techno).

I've read about it in this quite entertaining article a while ago (read here: http://mnmlssg.blogspot.com/2008/03...nd-oranges.html), and today I was able to find out on my own how true it was.

Does anyone have similar experience? Where did their interest in techno come from? And why the hell do they have to babble about music they have very little precedent for?

*carebear*

Since when we care about what indie kid bloggers say about EDM?

Indie kids don't care about music, they just want to tell their friends about obscure genres and artists because they think it makes them look cool and sophisticated.

haha you get that a lot here in williamsburg brooklyn where everyone is a self-professed indie music 'guru'.

kompakt has a lot of quirky stuff approachable to them - it doesnt surprise me in the least. they are very fragile and white so they like artists like the field, justus kohncke, etc

they like those bittersweet little numbers with acoustic percs

minimal techno has a sort of underground indie quality to it that indie kids try to appropriate into their own persona i think.

i think it's the same process as armin van buuren transmuting everything into 'trance'

mostly though they recognize the honest underground quality of the scene and believe it gives them some kind of indier than indie edge

how this person thought that couleurs was in any way minimal is baffling to me.

it is, in any case, awesome.

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Originally posted by Project-K Indie kids don't care about music, they just want to tell their friends about obscure genres and artists because they think it makes them look cool and sophisticated.

I agree... personally i hate them...however scene kids are the worst

Yeah, its like that with some of the people I know. I tell them I listen to techno and house and right away they ask "So have you herd of Dj Sammy and Tiesto?"

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yeah that happens too

but usually indie scene kids know a little better

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Originally posted by Neon Sky Yeah, its like that with some of the people I know. I tell them I listen to techno and house and right away they ask "So have you herd of Dj Sammy and Tiesto?"

Actually, the opening post was about a different phenomenon -- people from the "indie rock" scene trying to latch onto the "underground cred" of the minimal techno scene.

Welcome to the real world???

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Originally posted by Neon Sky Yeah, its like that with some of the people I know. I tell them I listen to techno and house and right away they ask "So have you herd of Dj Sammy and Tiesto?"

That's why I stopped telling people what kind of music I like. When they ask, I usually come up with a convenient lie. It's so much easier that way.

There's some very good indie stuff, but a lot of it strikes me as way too..."precious" or something. Almost like they try to make music that sounds like nursery rhymes.

See Kimya Dawson and most of the "Juno" soundtrack for good examples of that "cutesiness."

It's always amusing to watch when people from very different "scenes" step on each other's toes, though.

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Originally posted by nefardec kompakt has a lot of quirky stuff approachable to them - it doesnt surprise me in the least. they are very fragile and white so they like artists like the field, justus kohncke, etc they like those bittersweet little numbers with acoustic percs

True, it might look like 'Save The World' was made just for them.

What I don't understand is how they can review dance music when they've probably never been to a rave. Isn't that kind of missing the point? On one hand, they're looking at it from a different perspective, and that's fine, but on the other hand, their knowledge is often limited only to what's cool, so they have a very narrow-minded view of it.

Can't we all just get along?

I'm sure we've all referred to some indie song with an incorrect genre term (what do you call 'Sigur Ros', um, dream noise? hope-n-roll?).

Surely we can forgive one of "them" for referring to the epic Couleurs as "minimal."

As a side note, Nefardec, you live in Williamsburg? I'm moving to Fort Greene in June, and I'm really looking forward to meeting some gentrifying Brooklyn hipsters.

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Originally posted by Stasis As a side note, Nefardec, you live in Williamsburg? I'm moving to Fort Greene in June, and I'm really looking forward to meeting some gentrifying Brooklyn hipsters.

Heh...burn?

No! I swear!

Also, now that I think about it for a minute, anyone whose into indie music and reads pitchfork with any regularity (I know I do...) should know that M83 is literally the
posterchild for maximal, not minimal--so I guess that is kinda in-bounds to dis them for messing up on their own genre-turf.

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Originally posted by Stasis No! I was hoping I'd have some dance music-based backup whenever I run into such hipsters.

Ahh. I read it as "meeting some gentrifying Brooklyn hipsters [like you]."

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Originally posted by Stasis Can't we all just get along? I'm sure we've all referred to some indie song with an incorrect genre term (what do you call 'Sigur Ros', um, dream noise? hope-n-roll?). Surely we can forgive one of "them" for referring to the epic Couleurs as "minimal." As a side note, Nefardec, you live in Williamsburg? I'm moving to Fort Greene in June, and I'm really looking forward to meeting some gentrifying Brooklyn hipsters.

oh you will

they are everywhere


maybe eventually you will come to cherish their helpless ridiculousness like i do. they are precious, like their music. and hipster girls can be quite attractive

you get the feeling that most of them were nerds in high school who always wanted to be cool and when they move to williamsburg they feel like kings of their own precious world

Austin (about an hour from me) is the hipster capital of the south.

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Originally posted by Owsey2008 scene kids are the worst

scene chicks are fucking hot though.

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Originally posted by Project-K That's why I stopped telling people what kind of music I like. When they ask, I usually come up with a convenient lie. It's so much easier that way.

what music do you like????

I blame Pitchfork.

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Originally posted by BERTIE-AHERN what music do you like????

Oh, you know, I like a little bit of everything.

indian kids?

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