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Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 08:38:

Thumbs down [SEATTLE, WA] Sasha and Digweed were TERRIBLE

I am too tired right now to talk about it, but I am very disapointed with sasha and digweed with their preformance May 11th, at 5050 in Seattle.

For starters.. I left two hours early it was that bad


more info will come soon for now I'm off to bed


Posted by Nastarte on May-12-2002 10:56:

Love

blah! i just got back and had a blast! s+d are amazing on the tables. the last hour was killer, the crowd went insane . i rmember reading somewhere that sasha plays one of the tracks from his new album at the end. if that was it, eh damn can't wait for his new album.
Entry into the place was fast and hassle-free. wasn't packed. nice to have 2 rooms with the sound, but the second room seemed to have slighty better speakers.
on the downside. people need to learn how the trash can works and empty bottles can fit in them quite nice.. going to take some time for my feat to heal. non stop moving.


Posted by Trypsin on May-12-2002 15:04:

How long did it last?


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 15:05:

First of all I came to Sasha and Digweed with high expectations. Having listened to Gu013 I excpected somthin of that sort... but to my surprise, exactly what I did not want played was, and everything I wanted played wasnt.

I think theres a sterotype wiht Seattle, based on the fact that this is where grunge rock n roll started, and that things need to be louder and harder here... no! not true! I would have died to just hear one tune, one trance tune.. I had my fingers crossed for punk . but no, I could not recognize one song.. mostly because they were all the same DAMN SONG! The music was also too loud, I know people want to hear it, but it was freakin deafenin.

the worst thing was the music, it was so incredibly horrid. To start we listened to Jimmy Van M, hold the exact same baseline withno changes for around 10-15 minutes.. to get us started. then we would hear a little build up and then BOOM BOOM BOOM, little build up then BOOM BOOM BOOM. It was disghusting; I am flat out unimpressed and ashamed of Sasha and Digweed, because of who I thought they were, and what they would play. It was all like DnB progressive, where synths are a rarity (just like good tunes)

it really pisses me off.. its just a messed up culture.. 2/3 of the people were smoking, and 2/3 of the people weren't even dancing.. It was not fun

so overall I dont think I'm going back anytime soon, to an event, I enjoy sitting wiht my headphones listening to shtuff and dancin in my room... it made me realize why I need to become a good dj/producer... so I can bring TRANCE to seattle.


PS: Sasha and Digweed are dead





-inatrance


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Trypsin
How long did it last?


8-3...

I left at one


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Nastarte
blah! i just got back and had a blast! s+d are amazing on the tables. the last hour was killer, the crowd went insane . i rmember reading somewhere that sasha plays one of the tracks from his new album at the end. if that was it, eh damn can't wait for his new album.
Entry into the place was fast and hassle-free. wasn't packed. nice to have 2 rooms with the sound, but the second room seemed to have slighty better speakers.
on the downside. people need to learn how the trash can works and empty bottles can fit in them quite nice.. going to take some time for my feat to heal. non stop moving.


the deal about the trashcans, I dont think they were provided.. I didnt see any.. but I know what you are talking about


Posted by Nastarte on May-12-2002 16:38:

quote:
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the worst thing was the music, it was so incredibly horrid. To start we listened to Jimmy Van M, hold the exact same baseline withno changes for around 10-15 minutes.. to get us started. then we would hear a little build up and then BOOM BOOM BOOM, little build up then BOOM BOOM BOOM. It was disghusting; I am flat out unimpressed and ashamed of Sasha and Digweed, because of who I thought they were, and what they would play. It was all like DnB progressive, where synths are a rarity (just like good tunes)
so overall I dont think I'm going back anytime soon, to an event, I enjoy sitting wiht my headphones listening to shtuff and dancin in my room... it made me realize why I need to become a good dj/producer... so I can bring TRANCE to seattle.

-inatrance

jimmy van m wasn't there. he was sick they had someone else take his place.. sasha and digweed don't play trance like you would hear from armin van buuren or tiesto. They play tribal progressive house. i know people have been debating that on the board. but, Sometimes they play a track that might be near trance, but you will proably near here punk,sunburn or any trance anthem or any trance that isn't boarder lining some other genre also. btw some nice tunes like night. what was that remix of lustral - evertime ?
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Posted by Renegade on May-12-2002 18:04:

quote:
I would have died to just hear one tune, one trance tune..


Well why not just go to a trancier event then? I don't know what the club scene is like in Seattle, but it doesn't make much sense turning to a Sasha and Diggers set if you want to hear 5 hours of trance anthems. They aren't trance dj's. It makes about as much sense as me turning up to a Ferry Corsten set and complaining when he doesn't drop any slammin house grooves.

quote:
I had my fingers crossed for punk


I seriously hope you're kidding. :-/

quote:
To start we listened to Jimmy Van M, hold the exact same baseline withno changes for around 10-15 minutes.. to get us started. then we would hear a little build up and then BOOM BOOM BOOM, little build up then BOOM BOOM BOOM.


If you don't like "little build up and then BOOM BOOM BOOM" music (I think the word you're looking for is "progressive") then, like I said before, why'd you bother turning up?

John Digweed and Sasha are, by all accounts, two incredibly innovative dj's, who have pioneered a form of music that relies on "complex subtlety" that has converted millions world-wide - myself included - to a new, revolutionary form of music. Give it a chance and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.

I don't mean to sound like a tit, but I don't think you have any right to complain when you turn up to an event and then winge simply because the dj's are catering to the tastes of the other 3,000 people in the room and not just yours. It's called musical education - think of it as a learning experience rather than something you're otherwise just going to dismiss as "disghusting".


Posted by Bondor on May-12-2002 18:32:

quote:
I don't mean to sound like a tit, but I don't think you have any right to complain when you turn up to an event and then winge simply because the dj's are catering to the tastes of the other 3,000 people in the room and not just yours. It's called musical education - think of it as a learning experience rather than something you're otherwise just going to dismiss as "disghusting".


then why where only TEN people at most actually throwing there hands up and getting into it??

and why was it that when they started to play a synth of any kind more people got into it??


Posted by JM on May-12-2002 18:40:

inatrance...

dammit...i thought you knew what Sasha and Diggers were about!!!! No way should you have expected to hear trance (not a single trance tune) all night.

Now you see where i'm coming from when i previously said that their music was "not to my taste"....if you had downloaded some of Diggers Kiss 100 sets from DjMixes2k and listened, you'd have a general idea of what Diggers is about. Same with Sasha. I got Sasha and Diggers Communication CD, and DIgger's LA Global Underground CD, and have some of their live sets, so i know they're STRICTLY PROGRESSIVE/TRIBAL HOUSE, not trance.....

that's why i didn't go....that's too bad you dropped nearly $50 or so and not enjoyed, but realize that just cos they dont spin what you like, they're still one of the best dj's in the world and ppl love them....

>JM<


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo
inatrance...

dammit...i thought you knew what Sasha and Diggers were about!!!! No way should you have expected to hear trance (not a single trance tune) all night.

Now you see where i'm coming from when i previously said that their music was "not to my taste"....if you had downloaded some of Diggers Kiss 100 sets from DjMixes2k and listened, you'd have a general idea of what Diggers is about. Same with Sasha. I got Sasha and Diggers Communication CD, and DIgger's LA Global Underground CD, and have some of their live sets, so i know they're STRICTLY PROGRESSIVE/TRIBAL HOUSE, not trance.....

that's why i didn't go....that's too bad you dropped nearly $50 or so and not enjoyed, but realize that just cos they dont spin what you like, they're still one of the best dj's in the world and ppl love them....

>JM<


lol I dont get it.. bad taste in music some people have

I LIKE THE OLD SASHA BRING ME BACK THE OLD SASHA!!!!


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade


Well why not just go to a trancier event then? I don't know what the club scene is like in Seattle, but it doesn't make much sense turning to a Sasha and Diggers set if you want to hear 5 hours of trance anthems. They aren't trance dj's. It makes about as much sense as me turning up to a Ferry Corsten set and complaining when he doesn't drop any slammin house grooves.



I seriously hope you're kidding. :-/



If you don't like "little build up and then BOOM BOOM BOOM" music (I think the word you're looking for is "progressive") then, like I said before, why'd you bother turning up?

John Digweed and Sasha are, by all accounts, two incredibly innovative dj's, who have pioneered a form of music that relies on "complex subtlety" that has converted millions world-wide - myself included - to a new, revolutionary form of music. Give it a chance and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.

I don't mean to sound like a tit, but I don't think you have any right to complain when you turn up to an event and then winge simply because the dj's are catering to the tastes of the other 3,000 people in the room and not just yours. It's called musical education - think of it as a learning experience rather than something you're otherwise just going to dismiss as "disghusting".



first of all there was not even 1,000 people
second of all there isn't a trance scene in seattle


AND YES I WANTED TO HEAR PUNK, I love that song... better than what they played


Posted by Nastarte on May-12-2002 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Bondor


then why where only TEN people at most actually throwing there hands up and getting into it??

and why was it that when they started to play a synth of any kind more people got into it??


hmm um way more then 10 people. everytime there was a build up people really go into it clapping and cheering. at the end everyone was going insane for the last hour was amazing. as for it not being packed. i liked that there was space to move probably only a few thousand people.


Posted by JM on May-12-2002 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance

there isn't a trance scene in seattle


i have to disagree. there is indeed a trance scene, though it's small. you really have to keep up with who is spinning where and when and go there to hear some trance.....that's the beauty of it though, it's NOT mainstream, and if it was, i'd probably get sick of hearing Punk out of every Pub in Fremont hehe....

inatrance, you're not of "legal" 21 age to go clubbin right? if not, then yeah, the only trance you can pretty much get is either at home, or go to one of those "great" raves in the area (they might not even have trance there)....

>JM<


Posted by inatrance on May-12-2002 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo


i have to disagree. there is indeed a trance scene, though it's small. you really have to keep up with who is spinning where and when and go there to hear some trance.....that's the beauty of it though, it's NOT mainstream, and if it was, i'd probably get sick of hearing Punk out of every Pub in Fremont hehe....

inatrance, you're not of "legal" 21 age to go clubbin right? if not, then yeah, the only trance you can pretty much get is either at home, or go to one of those "great" raves in the area (they might not even have trance there)....

>JM<


yup I know JM.. so basically.. I'm just gonna have to spin it myself, and have my own Punk parties



It may sound like I'm angry about this all.. and really I was.. but its not a big deal, good expirience.. set in stone that I don't like proggie, dnb, house, tribal, etc.. so I'll just keep listenin to trance; and play what I love

-inatrance


//edit
one more thing to add: proggie is totally drug music?? how else do you get into it..??
//edit


Posted by JM on May-13-2002 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance


yup I know JM.. so basically.. I'm just gonna have to spin it myself, and have my own Punk parties



It may sound like I'm angry about this all.. and really I was.. but its not a big deal, good expirience.. set in stone that I don't like proggie, dnb, house, tribal, etc.. so I'll just keep listenin to trance; and play what I love

-inatrance


//edit
one more thing to add: proggie is totally drug music?? how else do you get into it..??
//edit


youngster, you have much to learn.....it's prog, short for progressive. so u spin records?

>JM<


Posted by inatrance on May-13-2002 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo


youngster, you have much to learn.....it's prog, short for progressive. so u spin records?

>JM<


lol no I have no $ for that, too much climbing.. CDR's baby

and the prog/proggie thing, I know proggie= programs.. what not and thats its really prog but ANYHOW



I may have lots to learn about the culture(not sure I neccesarily even want to get involved in).. but I know plenty about the music


-inatrance


Posted by sothis on May-14-2002 15:29:

inatrance, its your own fault for expecting them to spin bedrock style trance. they spin progressive tribal house. i remember the thread on nwtekno, all the people sooo excited to go hear some "trance".. everyone kept telling them they would be disappointed. they chose not to listen. shrug.

quote:
second of all there isn't a trance scene in seattle


that is a really uninformed sentence. there is a trance scene in seattle, you just arent old enough to get into it. in the last 6-8 months remedy has brought to the showbox paul van dyk, as well as lots of other big name acts.


Posted by PVD_S11DJ on May-14-2002 15:32:

Sasha and Digweed's sets in Boston were suprisingly trancey when I saw them, especially Digweed (which was a big suprise!) I don' think he'd ever spin anything like "Punk" though dude...


Posted by inatrance on May-14-2002 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
inatrance, its your own fault for expecting them to spin bedrock style trance. they spin progressive tribal house. i remember the thread on nwtekno, all the people sooo excited to go hear some "trance".. everyone kept telling them they would be disappointed. they chose not to listen. shrug.



that is a really uninformed sentence. there is a trance scene in seattle, you just arent old enough to get into it. in the last 6-8 months remedy has brought to the showbox paul van dyk, as well as lots of other big name acts.



its not unimformed.. I know pvd was here in december.. etc.. but MOST trance.. you are right I cannot get into

oh well.. a shrug is a good way to describe the whole concert, etc

inatrance


Posted by sothis on May-14-2002 23:39:

no, it is uninformed, because you said, and i quote:

quote:
second of all there isn't a trance scene in seattle


this indicates without a doubt that you think there isnt a trance scene in seattle in any fashion. you didnt say otherwise, thats why i said your statement about that there is no trance scene in seattle is uninformed. you cant base if a scene exists on whether or not you can actually go to those events or not.

thats about as stupid as if i had said "there is no industrial scene" in seattle over the past 7 years, just because i wasn't old enough to go to the clubs that had that type of music.


Posted by inatrance on May-14-2002 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
no, it is uninformed, because you said, and i quote:



this indicates without a doubt that you think there isnt a trance scene in seattle in any fashion. you didnt say otherwise, thats why i said your statement about that there is no trance scene in seattle is uninformed. you cant base if a scene exists on whether or not you can actually go to those events or not.

thats about as stupid as if i had said "there is no industrial scene" in seattle over the past 7 years, just because i wasn't old enough to go to the clubs that had that type of music.


okay sothis.. I spoke to quickly.. sorry.. I dont want to fight about it

-inatrance


Posted by oceanlab on May-15-2002 06:35:

Satan (eek!)

SASHA AND DIGWEED ARE THE MOST OVERRATED DJS IN THE WORLD!!!


Posted by inatrance on May-15-2002 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by oceanlab
SASHA AND DIGWEED ARE THE MOST OVERRATED DJS IN THE WORLD!!!


true that


Posted by Dahippieman on May-16-2002 02:58:

dude that sucks you had such a shitty time every time i have seen sasha+diggers they played loads of trancey tracks of course the majority was deeper prog house stuff was this your first sasha+diggers event?


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