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Health Officials Calling for Ontario Drinking age to be raised to 21
Remember, today's suggestion is tomorrow's law. This is the same mcsquinty that said last year that outlawing smoking in cars with kids is a "slippery slope" law and now supports it. He also said about a tire tax "no tire tax, no way" in 2005 and now seems to support it.
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| TORONTO - Ontario's legal drinking age of 19 does not need to be raised to 21, Premier Dalton McGuinty said Tuesday as he dismissed a call from public health officials in London, Ont., to consider changing the law. The board of health in London voted 4-3 Monday to request that the legal drinking age be increased to 21 as part of a series of measures to fight alcohol-related deaths and injuries. But McGuinty said he believes the parents of teenagers would do a better job of stopping young people from drinking than tougher laws. "If you're going to rely on the law to ensure that your kids aren't drinking underage, then you don't have a good understanding of human nature," he said before a Liberal caucus meeting. "While we have a law in place which I think has struck the right balance, it's also really important for parents to take a real interest in what their kids are doing, to try to impress upon them the dangers associated with drinking alcohol." Ontario's legal drinking age was originally lowered to 18 from 21 in 1971, but was increased to 19 in 1979 after complaints that too many high school students were getting drunk. Only Alberta and Manitoba have the legal drinking age at 18, while it's been 19 in the other provinces and territories since the 1970s. The London health unit voted to ask other public health agencies in Ontario to endorse its proposal and to lobby the province to change the law after a report from medical officer of health Graham Pollett said alcohol was a factor in 6,000 deaths a year in Canada. Other measures endorsed by the Middlesex-London Health Unit called for the legal blood-alcohol limit in drivers to be lowered from 0.08 per cent to 0.05 per cent, and for a zero blood-alcohol limit for drivers under age 21. A 2007 survey of student drug use in Ontario by the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health found 61 per cent of students consumed alcohol in the past year, and 26 per cent reported binge drinking in the four weeks before the survey. Other statistics showed 12 per cent of drivers still attending high school got behind the wheel within an hour of having two or more drinks, and 26 per cent reported riding in a car with a driver who had been drinking. The Gazette, the student newspaper at the University of Western Ontario in London, reported Tuesday that the board of health's actions could be disastrous for business at local bars, but could be a real boon for "entrepreneurs of Ontario's fake ID industry." |
So you disagree with the proposal (as do I), and McGuinty said no to it as well, but you're still finding a reason to bitch about it?
I think it's safe to say that something proposed by ONE city's dept. of health (barely passing the motion at that) is not going to trigger any action on the part of the provincial gov't.
On another note, i think the city of toronto is running out of things to ban.
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| TDSB considers ban on homework during holidays Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 07:53 AM By: 680News staff Toronto - The Toronto District School Board is considering a ban on homework during March Break, Christmas and other significant holidays. After weeks of consultation with parents, teachers, principals and community members, a series of recommendations was proposed, including no homework other than reading with parents for kindergarten students. Students in grades 7 and 8 should be limited to an hour of homework daily and that homework should only cover material already covered in class. The policy, which still needs to be tweaked, would be expected to be voted on by mid-April, with a plan to implement it by the fall. |
WHAT!
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| Students in grades 7 and 8 should be limited to an hour of homework daily and that homework should only cover material already covered in class. |
What needs to be done is to lower the age to 16, and increase education efforts to teach about the negative effects of alcohol.
Oh, and enforce the laws with stiff penalties on drunk driving and such.
When you ban something, people will go around and do it regardless.
This has been brought up and swatted back down atleast 3 times in my lifetime and many, many, many times before.
Good Press for health and youth conscious voters, but in the end cutting out 19 and 20 year olds would effect our revenue and local establishments who serve alcohol significantly.
If this idea has any seriousness, it certainly won't happen without a huge battle ensuing, which would likely take years anyways.
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| Originally posted by MarkT So you disagree with the proposal (as do I), and McGuinty said no to it as well, but you're still finding a reason to bitch about it? I think it's safe to say that something proposed by ONE city's dept. of health (barely passing the motion at that) is not going to trigger any action on the part of the provincial gov't. |
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| Originally posted by capo tutti di If this idea has any seriousness, it certainly won't happen without a huge battle ensuing, which would likely take years anyways. |
If you're over 21, who cares!
I say make the drinking age 33........anyone caught drinkingh underage should receive a miximum of 25 years in jail and a $1,000,000.00 fine.
I was 21 when i started using my real ID..
(Didnt have one before then)
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 its health depts that usually first reccommend most bans in this province. So i am very worried that this is even being discussed. |
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| Originally posted by trancechaos quote: TDSB considers ban on homework during holidays Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 07:53 AM By: 680News staff Toronto - The Toronto District School Board is considering a ban on homework during March Break, Christmas and other significant holidays. After weeks of consultation with parents, teachers, principals and community members, a series of recommendations was proposed, including no homework other than reading with parents for kindergarten students. Students in grades 7 and 8 should be limited to an hour of homework daily and that homework should only cover material already covered in class. The policy, which still needs to be tweaked, would be expected to be voted on by mid-April, with a plan to implement it by the fall. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 thats what they said about smoking |
Well, this would definitely guarantee results with the young voters come next election.
What they really need to do is lower the age to 12 and legislate a 4-pint minimum per day.
more buisness for us.
Jez. the local paper called me today asking for my thoughts
meh.. its good and bad... in my opinion people should be able to drink when they understand how alcohol affects them and are mature enough to drink responsibly.. in a way ... this will just make it more of a forbidden fruit and a law that everyone will want to rebel against!
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| Originally posted by devnull they should ban smoking in high school for students. Its not legal for them to buy smokes, why should they be allowed to smoke ... |
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| Originally posted by MarkT yeah...but this isn't even a provincial office. It's London, ON. Who cares. *they* can't even agree as it passed 4-3, lol. I'll become concerned when several major units band together and decisively call for something to be done. once again...businesses should be banding together and saying "fuck that" very loudly to their MPPs. with the # of places that would be impacted, collectively that's a pretty damn loud voice. How many licensed establishments are their in this province? And if even a fraction of them said "we will vote for your opposition if you support this recommendation"...it DIES right there. |
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| Originally posted by MarkT yeah...but this isn't even a provincial office. It's London, ON. Who cares. *they* can't even agree as it passed 4-3, lol. I'll become concerned when several major units band together and decisively call for something to be done. once again...businesses should be banding together and saying "fuck that" very loudly to their MPPs. with the # of places that would be impacted, collectively that's a pretty damn loud voice. How many licensed establishments are their in this province? And if even a fraction of them said "we will vote for your opposition if you support this recommendation"...it DIES right there. |
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| Originally posted by MarkT with the # of places that would be impacted, collectively that's a pretty damn loud voice. How many licensed establishments are their in this province? And if even a fraction of them said "we will vote for your opposition if you support this recommendation"...it DIES right there. |
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| Originally posted by revival Jez. the local paper called me today asking for my thoughts |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 funny but that same collective opposition didnt seem to work with the barrage of smoking laws that were imposed on licenced establishments. I dont know of any that were in favour of smoking laws. In the nanny state, nanny has the final say. period. |
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| Originally posted by trancechaos On another note, i think the city of toronto is running out of things to ban. |
oh fuck c'mon
i dont want to move to another new country 
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