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Posted by jpisani on Apr-02-2008 04:05:

Question on an application

I'm filling out a job application, and a question on it is "Have you ever illegally used marijuana?" and then on the next page it has space to explain any answers, such as checking the YES answer for that question or the "have you ever had disciplinary action taken against you by an employer?"

Now, what would be a good answer to put other then "I just wanted to try it" or something along those lines for the marijuana question? I've been thinking of a reasonable response and I can't think of any that don't sound stupid. I don't want to lie and say I've never tried it because I'd rather well....just not lie.

Unfortunately I think "Just wanted to see what it was like" is going to have to suffice.


Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-02-2008 04:08:

If you answer "YES" to that question, despite your reasoning of 'I just wanted to try it', you will not get the job.

Fuck, just lie.


Posted by zack3082 on Apr-02-2008 04:09:

it would probably be to your best nature to be honest. chances are your boss burns, does ecstacy and knows more about edm then 80% of people on this board.


Posted by changosanch on Apr-02-2008 04:09:

If you want a job check NO.


Posted by idoru on Apr-02-2008 04:12:

If you checked "Yes" then I suggest that you roll up your application and slap yourself in the face with it.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-02-2008 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
If you answer "YES" to that question, despite your reasoning of 'I just wanted to try it', you will not get the job.

Fuck, just lie.

Further information.

This job WILL have me take a lie detector test before hiring me. If this question comes up I don't want to crumble.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-02-2008 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
If you checked "Yes" then I suggest that you roll up your application and slap yourself in the face with it.

Its 35 pages. That might hurt.


Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-02-2008 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Further information.

This job WILL have me take a lie detector test before hiring me. If this question comes up I don't want to crumble.


What the fuck kind of job is this?


Posted by idoru on Apr-02-2008 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Its 35 pages. That might hurt.


That was the whole point.


Posted by aNYthing on Apr-02-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Further information.

This job WILL have me take a lie detector test before hiring me. If this question comes up I don't want to crumble.


Some words of wisdom:

1. apply somewhere else. u don't want to go through lie detector interview.



Oh, I remember now. What I wanted to say was:

2. apply somewhere else. u don't want to go through lie detector interview.


Posted by aNYthing on Apr-02-2008 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
If you checked "Yes" then I suggest that you roll up some bud in your application and smoke it.


*FIXOR3D* MON!


Posted by whiskers on Apr-02-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
What the fuck kind of job is this?


+1

Do they anally probe the applicants as well?


Posted by idoru on Apr-02-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
*FIXOR3D* MON!


Well-played.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-02-2008 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
What the fuck kind of job is this?

Government stuff. They wanna know all sorts of random shit about me. ie. "List two neighbors at your current location that you know" I don't know any of my neighbors (I've talked to one neighbor, once (twice if you count the time I said "don't worry about it" when he shot me with snow from his snow blower from across the street)). I moved here in the fall and no one hangs out outside in the winter. Plus my house is on a corner with an alley behind me, and the house next door is for sale. I'm going to call them and ask if they'd rather have the info of the neighbors I lived next to for 15 years, as opposed to 4 or 5 months.


Posted by aNYthing on Apr-02-2008 04:33:

dude, with honesty - there's no chance you'll get the job. Gov't WILL do polygraph on yo ass. I actually had a freind of mine interview for gov't job, they asked him all kinds of sick shit like:

1. Did you ever have a homosexual experience
2. were you ever mollested
3. did you ever have sex with minors
4. did you ever have sex with animals
5. did you ever sell drugs
6. did you ever commit crime you weren't charged with?

fucked up thing is that they can ask you ANY kind of question. if you somehow manage past the lie detector and still end up getting a job, if they find out any lies later they can charge you with some perjury or other crap.

my other friend is a contractor for the navy - they interviewed all his neighbors from today and before, full background check, etc.

YOU DON'T WANT A GOV'T JOB.


Posted by Lilith on Apr-02-2008 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
YOU DON'T WANT A GOV'T JOB.

...if you have anything to hide!


Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-02-2008 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Government stuff.


And they actually have the right to ask you about that shit? Like ANYTHING that happens outside of your job/workplace is any of their business at all?



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Posted by Audious on Apr-02-2008 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing

3. did you ever have sex with minors
4. did you ever have sex with animals


Well, count me out.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-02-2008 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
dude, with honesty - there's no chance you'll get the job. Gov't WILL do polygraph on yo ass. I actually had a freind of mine interview for gov't job, they asked him all kinds of sick shit like:

1. Did you ever have a homosexual experience
2. were you ever mollested
3. did you ever have sex with minors
4. did you ever have sex with animals
5. did you ever sell drugs
6. did you ever commit crime you weren't charged with?

fucked up thing is that they can ask you ANY kind of question. if you somehow manage past the lie detector and still end up getting a job, if they find out any lies later they can charge you with some perjury or other crap.

my other friend is a contractor for the navy - they interviewed all his neighbors from today and before, full background check, etc.

YOU DON'T WANT A GOV'T JOB.

govt jobs are ok if they dont require any sort of clearance. if they dont require clearance, they dont require what your needing.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-02-2008 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
And they actually have the right to ask you about that shit? Like ANYTHING that happens outside of your job/workplace is any of their business at all?



...

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I guess its like a "if you want the job you'll tell us" sort of thing. I mean I dont HAVE to tell them, but they don't HAVE to give me the job.

They also wanna know if I have asthma. IM FUCKED.


Posted by Lilith on Apr-02-2008 04:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
And they actually have the right to ask you about that shit? Like ANYTHING that happens outside of your job/workplace is any of their business at all?

lol, you should see the stuff they ask when you apply for citizenship there in the US... its much the same, stupidly I was actually honest about it all and the reasons why.
As a result, it was heartily rejected, in fact I don't even qualify for a work visa there anymore


Posted by Zewad on Apr-02-2008 04:51:

fuck... i had these questions with the military and of course you lie and say no... if you belive it then its true....


my job was ubar security clearance which i still hold today...

and ive done a few more things than smoke a joint or 50...


Posted by _Nut_ on Apr-02-2008 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Government stuff. They wanna know all sorts of random shit about me. ie. "List two neighbors at your current location that you know" I don't know any of my neighbors (I've talked to one neighbor, once (twice if you count the time I said "don't worry about it" when he shot me with snow from his snow blower from across the street)). I moved here in the fall and no one hangs out outside in the winter. Plus my house is on a corner with an alley behind me, and the house next door is for sale. I'm going to call them and ask if they'd rather have the info of the neighbors I lived next to for 15 years, as opposed to 4 or 5 months.


If this is a govt background check - your employer will not see it. You don't necessarily need true neighbors - but people who can verify you lived and worked where you stated. And as for the mary jane question - answer honestly. It could come back to bite you in the ass after hiring and when they find out you lied - you would get canned asap.

And before you ask - yes I went through the exact same thing not too long ago.


Posted by _Nut_ on Apr-02-2008 04:56:

And is this info you are filling out online @ OPM?


Posted by Zewad on Apr-02-2008 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_

And before you ask - yes I went through the exact same thing not too long ago.


the epsq or the sf86?


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