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Posted by ThomasPhan on Apr-03-2008 23:42:

Monkey Dancer 2 Mixing on Cue or Mixing in Key???

Inquiring mind(?)Please share your thoughts. thanks.
Mixing on Cue and Mixing in Key(harmonic mixing).
Which do you prefer? What are you comfortible with?


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Apr-03-2008 23:45:

Re: Mixing on Cue or Mixing in Key???

quote:
Originally posted by djThomasPhan
Inquiring mind(?)Please share your thoughts. thanks.
Mixing on Cue and Mixing in Key(harmonic mixing).
Which do you prefer? What are you comfortible with?

on cue...hands down.


Posted by ThomasPhan on Apr-03-2008 23:47:

Re: Re: Mixing on Cue or Mixing in Key???

quote:
Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
on cue...hands down.

+1 love you


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Apr-03-2008 23:53:

if cue is when the beat is matched...

then what would in "key" be?


Posted by ThomasPhan on Apr-03-2008 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
if cue is when the beat is matched...

then what would in "key" be?

You are one technical 72hrpartynaimal.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-03-2008 23:59:

All depend on situation and music. Neither is absolutely necessary. Though 90% of the time I mix on cue and in key.


Posted by ThomasPhan on Apr-04-2008 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
All depend on situation and music. Neither is absolutely necessary. Though 90% of the time I mix on cue and in key.

Awesome! Thanks Clovis.


Posted by progressiveMOJO on Apr-04-2008 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
All depend on situation and music. Neither is absolutely necessary. Though 90% of the time I mix on cue and in key.

I was going to say "how about both" but clovis said it better.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Apr-04-2008 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by djThomasPhan
You are one technical 72hrpartynaimal.


i have no clue what these pictures are or mean...

i'll stick to promoting!

partying is a lot easier than DJing!


Posted by Clovis on Apr-04-2008 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
i have no clue what these pictures are or mean...

i'll stick to promoting!

partying is a lot easier than DJing!



DJing is really not that hard


Posted by bas on Apr-04-2008 00:54:

What's mixing on cue? Like...mixing? I don't get it


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Apr-04-2008 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
DJing is really not that hard


yeah... i started off djing before promoting, so i got the basics covered.

but there is an artistry in djing that i never felt i had, example: understanding that chart.

so back to what i asked before, what is DJing in key?

examples that Billy can understand.


Posted by bas on Apr-04-2008 00:58:

Mixing in key is when your tracks are all the same key or in keys that match harmonically. So when/if melodies or vocals play together it doesn't sound like a cats having sex getting hit by a truck full of other cats having sex.

Mixing on cue? Mixing on beat? I don't understand that one.


Posted by bucke on Apr-04-2008 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
yeah... i started off djing before promoting, so i got the basics covered.

but there is an artistry in djing that i never felt i had, example: understanding that chart.

so back to what i asked before, what is DJing in key?

examples that Billy can understand.


lol i understand that chart perfectly. i ALWAYS mix in key, thats one the 3 rights to my methods of mixing 1.right key 3.the right tracks. 2.right bpm (cuz it you're too far apart it will fuck up your key mixing).



mixing in key is some wonderful stuff, it sounds soooo much smoother, and you have more flexibility and can pick out more mix points in a track. always a smooth transition! not only does it sound awesome, but you can do some neat stuff with it too, like skip keys in a certain pattern to create modulation tricks!

many dj's use both mixing in key an mixing on cue (which im guessing is just mixing tracks as they come without regard to key)

.....but seriously if you have a large enough collection to play with and all the songs are keyed why would you want to mix otherwise?


Posted by Clovis on Apr-04-2008 01:18:

Because you dont always need to be in key for the mix to sound great, and sometimes tracks that ARE in key will not sound that amazing together. Also lots of minimal tech and techno, and tunes with less melody do not need to be mixed in key.


I go by feeling most of the time and just use the keys for extra ideas or when I'm unsure about a pairing.


Posted by jonmitz on Apr-04-2008 01:21:

I go by my ears
. Harmoic mixing is one of the biggest loads of shit ever, just because two songs are in the same key doesnt mean they will always sound good together. Yes, sometimes they do, but it isn't something you can count on.
Know your music and it will sound good. If you don't your music well enough to know what will sound well togerher you shouldn't be DJing anyways. :P


Posted by bucke on Apr-04-2008 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Because you dont always need to be in key for the mix to sound great, and sometimes tracks that ARE in key will not sound that amazing together. Also lots of minimal tech and techno, and tunes with less melody do not need to be mixed in key.


I go by feeling most of the time and just use the keys for extra ideas or when I'm unsure about a pairing.


yup i agree, most techno and minimal tracks don't have to be mixed in key. and you still need to know how to choose the right tracks even if you mix in key.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Apr-04-2008 01:38:

so basically...

to mix in key... you gotta know what key is what right or better yet, understand that chart?




thanks for the answers, cleared a lot up.


Posted by ThomasPhan on Apr-04-2008 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
so basically...

to mix in key... you gotta know what key is what right or better yet, understand that chart?




thanks for the answers, cleared a lot up.


Each key is assigned a keycode number from one to twelve, like hours around a clock. To select a compatible key from any origin keycode, choose a keycode within one number of your original keycode. THAT'S IT! If you are in keycode 9, you can select an 8, 9 or 10. If you are in keycode 4, you can select a 3, 4 or 5. If you are in keycode 12, you can select an 11, 12 or 1. Your best mixes will be into another song at the same speed and key.


Posted by Dj Blurr on Apr-04-2008 03:21:

Both. If im getting what you mean by cue as being related to beatmatching.

For me if it dont sound good together, scratch it and find something else.

If you dont beatmatch, then what the hell are you doing Djin?


Posted by Clovis on Apr-04-2008 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Blurr

If you dont beatmatch, then what the hell are you doing Djin?



Tommy Lee'in


Posted by CReddick on Apr-04-2008 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by bucke
.....but seriously if you have a large enough collection to play with and all the songs are keyed why would you want to mix otherwise?


Like the other guys said, I'm playing a track, and I know the absolute PERFECT track to play next... who gives a fuck what key it's in. drop it!


Posted by D:Jay on Apr-04-2008 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
i have no clue what these pictures are or mean...

i'll stick to promoting!

partying is a lot easier than DJing!


+1 on that Bro! Plus partying is more Fun! I tend to mix both that's why I prefer to be a Lappy DJ so I don't have to spend too much time on beat matching and looking for que points. Most of the time I'm dancing with people that come up to the booth or inter acting with the crowd.

Btw..... I mix on cue.


Posted by henryv on Apr-04-2008 04:28:

i use the camelot system sometimes. but most of the time its all by ear.


Posted by bucke on Apr-04-2008 04:36:

its all a matter of personal preference. most dj's use both methods. i've seen dj's mix track way out of key and still make them sound good.


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