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Posted by ctt300 on Apr-04-2008 02:00:

How Many Total Peeps WMC '08???

Anyone have any idea how many people came, excluding performing DJ's, to this years WMC??? I would guess at under 50K...

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:02:

You mean at one time or throughout the entire week? Don't forget it is people's spring break, and fashion week at the same time as WMC

Posted by Musicjunky on Apr-04-2008 02:07:

Smallest turn-out I have seen in the last 4 years for sure.

Posted by Ripp on Apr-04-2008 02:11:

I thought about this number and how the hell can you judge this? WHat if a Miami local went to just one party...does that count?

Ultra had to have at least 30K people alone...

Posted by hiram on Apr-04-2008 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripp
I thought about this number and how the hell can you judge this? WHat if a Miami local went to just one party...does that count?

Ultra had to have at least 30K people alone...

ultra typically has over 60k ppl with every year surpassing the previous. over both days ultra brought in AT LEAST over 100k ppl.

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:16:

maybe for both days ultra had 30k Really was not crowded this year at all. I'm not complaining, traffic was bearable, taxis were easy to find, lines weren't super long. I will agree that it has been one of the more slower years.

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by hiram
ultra typically has over 60k ppl with every year surpassing the previous. over both days ultra brought in AT LEAST over 100k ppl.

That seems like a really big number for this year. Parking over there was so easy this year.

Posted by Mattivi on Apr-04-2008 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
maybe for both days ultra had 30k Really was not crowded this year at all. I'm not complaining, traffic was bearable, taxis were easy to find, lines weren't super long. I will agree that it has been one of the more slower years.

its been listed on other nitelife sites from reliable sources that ultra had a 25k firstday turnout and a 75k second day turnout, record numbers, so hiram is right, and you might want to get your eyes checked. but overall yes, i noticed that space wasnt nearly as slammed as years passed, not even close, and it used to be mayham pretty much all nite, and this year you could walk in at pretty much anytime of nite this year.

Posted by hiram on Apr-04-2008 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
its been listed on other nitelife sites from reliable sources that ultra had a 25k firstday turnout and a 75k second day turnout, record numbers, so hiram is right, and you might want to get your eyes checked. but overall yes, i noticed that space wasnt nearly as slammed as years passed, not even close, and it used to be mayham pretty much all nite, and this year you could walk in at pretty much anytime of nite this year.

was about to post the Honky Tonk Mans numbers actually.. good looking out

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
its been listed on other nitelife sites from reliable sources that ultra had a 25k firstday turnout and a 75k second day turnout, record numbers, so hiram is right, and you might want to get your eyes checked. but overall yes, i noticed that space wasnt nearly as slammed as years passed, not even close, and it used to be mayham pretty much all nite, and this year you could walk in at pretty much anytime of nite this year.

I do not believe any website's exaggerated numbers for that weekend. Any numbers posted like that are BS and are used to help promote and contract next year's Ultra. The party keeps getting harder and harder to throw. Did it really feel like 3 times the amount of people the second day?

Posted by hiram on Apr-04-2008 02:30:

well take this into account. there was at least a few thousand more ppl there for day one this year. and ultra consistently brings in 70k or more for its main event, check past numbers.. there was alot more space to roam this year because they did away with the exaggeratedly abundant "vip areas" that give you "great views".

plus these numbers are coming from mostly ultra haters who have admitted they were wrong.

as for ultra next year.. if you havent heard they plan on building an art museum in the bicentenial park location. construction starts next year.

Posted by ctt300 on Apr-04-2008 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
You mean at one time or throughout the entire week? Don't forget it is people's spring break, and fashion week at the same time as WMC

Total distinct people. If one person went to an event @ WMC, then came back 2 days later, that counts as one, but I know it is nearly impossible to count this total number... Was kind of just looking for about how many people total... I guess if we had total ticket sales data for each event that would help!

Posted by Mattivi on Apr-04-2008 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
I do not believe any website's exaggerated numbers for that weekend. Any numbers posted like that are BS and are used to help promote and contract next year's Ultra. The party keeps getting harder and harder to throw. Did it really feel like 3 times the amount of people the second day?

this wasnt from the actual website, but a guy who has many industry sources and would be the last one to back up the numbers if they wernt true. the guy has been predicting the end of ultra for years and had to eat his own failed prediction. of course these numbers are preliminary but there is no reason to lie about the numbers, and ultra obvisouly must be turning a profit and ergo why this festival has been going ten years strong. im sure there is some percentage for error, but it cant be a large one. i didnt actually go to the festival, havent been since ultra 6, where more than 50-60k showed up at the smaller bayfront, so i dont think these numbers are that unbelievable.

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by hiram
as for ultra next year.. if you havent heard they plan on building an art museum in the bicentenial park location. construction starts next year.

Which is exactly why they are going to blow #'s out of proportion to find another place to do it. BayFront, the beach again...

I will only believe the numbers I see of how many tickets were actually sold, then take into account of how many walk-ins, then badge holders.

You might be right they had 100,000 people there in the weekend, but it just didn't seem that busy to me.

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by ctt300
I guess if we had total ticket sales data for each event that would help!

I agree,

Posted by drEamer on Apr-04-2008 02:40:

i dont know what some of u were seeing....but saturday night was busier than i ever seen Ultra.....more people than ever....i would guess at least 75k that night......and ive been to plenty of HUGE festivals that were 30K people that totally dwarfed this event

Posted by hiram on Apr-04-2008 02:41:

bayfront has changed policy and will not allow festivals of over 25k to take place on its grounds, thus the move over to bicentennial. and i highly doubt, better yet pray, that a festival of such proportions be held on the beach. that spells disaster for the city, community, and not to mention a nightmare for police.

im not out to burst anyones bubble but as of right now i cant think of a viable option(in or around miami) to hold ultra next year.

Posted by hiram on Apr-04-2008 02:44:

and if any of you went to Bang! 2006... the OFFICAL numbers were 30k ppl and you cant logically say that bang and ultra brought in the same amount of ppl. stages would literally CLEAR out at different times cause tiesto or daft punk or duran duran were playing at the time. where as ultra had all stages packed at any given time.

Posted by drEamer on Apr-04-2008 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by hiram
and if any of you went to Bang! 2006... the OFFICAL numbers were 30k ppl and you cant logically say that bang and ultra brought in the same amount of ppl. stages would literally CLEAR out at different times cause tiesto or daft punk or duran duran were playing at the time. where as ultra had all stages packed at any given time.
especially saturday!!!

Posted by llavoe on Apr-04-2008 02:50:

Ok, so there were 100k there for ultra. But how many of those underage kids go other places and are there for the WMC and not just the all ages ultra show? Should you count them?

Posted by drEamer on Apr-04-2008 02:59:

if u were conting every event........total number of people....not including people that go from party to party...i would think the total number of people attending would be somewhere around 125K

Posted by raven848 on Apr-04-2008 19:25:

a large number of people only go to Ultra; a large number of people don't go to Ultra and only do parties.

Yes, there were less people overall but I thought it had a great feel around town. Wednesday night I noticed that there was no one in town. The economy is really bad right now and it all adds up. It cost me over $100 in gas to drive down and back from St. Pete.

Posted by b0bb0 on Apr-04-2008 20:00:

There are more and more people going down for WMC that do not attend Ultra itself. And it'll keep going up..

There was prolly 100k people in miami that normally would not be there, that were there for WMC. 100k is prolly a very close figure honestly.