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Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-04-2008 19:14:

Thumbs down Rogers to degrade HDTV signal quality to fit more channels

Wow, this is garbage.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/...l-Quality-93298

I don't give a shit about more channels if they aren't even going to be true 1280x720 resolution or higher, since the only shit worth watching in HD are nature documentaries and sports anyway, which is already covered pretty well. Kinda pissed.


Posted by NuERA on Apr-04-2008 19:14:

sounds like something bell would do


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-04-2008 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by NuERA
sounds like something bell would do


Well they're already jumping on the torrent throttling with their clusterfuck internet service.

Now all you Sympatico internet users can feel us Rogers customers' pain when you try to torrent the latest Linux ISOs


Posted by exstasie on Apr-04-2008 19:16:

I guess I can call their rentention office about this stating that its not a true HD signal and hopefully I won't have to pay for the added HD channels.

FUcking Rogers!

Hopefully we get MTV HD haha


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-04-2008 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Hopefully we get MTV HD haha


Oh god why would you want MTV, do you hate your life that much?


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 19:19:

thats why you get dishnetwork. mpeg4 and they have plenty of birds in the sky for bandwidth.


Posted by exstasie on Apr-04-2008 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Oh god why would you want MTV, do you hate your life that much?


haha. It was a joke...

I'm not sure what other channels I'd actually want in HD. Pretty much everything I watch right is already in HD (well, on an HD Channel. Whether or not the program on the HD channel actually IS in HD is a different question.)


Maybe Spike? At least then I can watch some HD UFC.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-04-2008 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
thats why you get dishnetwork. mpeg4 and they have plenty of birds in the sky for bandwidth.


Is this available in Canada, legally?


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Is this available in Canada, legally?


nope. get yourself a free-to-air HD receiver with an 8psk module (viewsat 9000 HD is recommended). the only other way is to hack the dish vip 211 receiver which requires you to swap the tsop chips, pull the internal rom chip and mount it on a bga board, activate the card slow and unlock the bga card. however, i think subscription cloning is the only hack available for the vip series of receivers at the moment so that idea is down the shitter.

get a fta hd receiver and set up dishes for nimiq1 (known as 91 west for expressvu) for bell's main channel lineup, nimiq2 (known as 82 west for expressvu) mainly for expressvu hd, echostar8,10 (known as 110 west for dishnet) for half of dishnet's main channel lineup, echostar7 (119 west for dishnet) for the other half of dishnet's main channel lineup, and echostar5 (129 west for dishnet) for hd. the you're laughing cuz you will have probably over 2000 channels to watch all on the same receiver.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-04-2008 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
nope. get yourself a free-to-air HD receiver with an 8psk module (viewsat 9000 HD is recommended). the only other way is to hack the dish vip 211 receiver which requires you to swap the tsop chips, pull the internal rom chip and mount it on a bga board, activate the card slow and unlock the bga card. however, i think subscription cloning is the only hack available for the vip series of receivers at the moment so that idea is down the shitter.

get a fta hd receiver and set up dishes for nimiq1 (known as 91 west for expressvu) for bell's main channel lineup, nimiq2 (known as 82 west for expressvu) mainly for expressvu hd, echostar8,10 (known as 110 west for dishnet) for half of dishnet's main channel lineup, echostar7 (119 west for dishnet) for the other half of dishnet's main channel lineup, and echostar5 (129 west for dishnet) for hd. the you're laughing cuz you will have probably over 2000 channels to watch all on the same receiver.


Mother of god, and how much HD content is there?


Posted by exstasie on Apr-04-2008 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
nope. get yourself a free-to-air HD receiver with an 8psk module (viewsat 9000 HD is recommended). the only other way is to hack the dish vip 211 receiver which requires you to swap the tsop chips, pull the internal rom chip and mount it on a bga board, activate the card slow and unlock the bga card. however, i think subscription cloning is the only hack available for the vip series of receivers at the moment so that idea is down the shitter.

get a fta hd receiver and set up dishes for nimiq1 (known as 91 west for expressvu) for bell's main channel lineup, nimiq2 (known as 82 west for expressvu) mainly for expressvu hd, echostar8,10 (known as 110 west for dishnet) for half of dishnet's main channel lineup, echostar7 (119 west for dishnet) for the other half of dishnet's main channel lineup, and echostar5 (129 west for dishnet) for hd. the you're laughing cuz you will have probably over 2000 channels to watch all on the same receiver.


Yeah, I've read all about the FTA Receivers and setting myself up a dish.

But stopped looking at that stuff a while ago as I confused myself too much haha.


Posted by Orko on Apr-04-2008 19:45:

Comcast just started this a couple of months ago in the states. They probably will not be decreasing the resolution, just lowering the bitrate. Articles which explain how they do it, and some examples of what it does to the picture quality:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008271

Funny thing is, Rogers' and Bell's services already change the signal quality that they get from the providers. If you have ever seen the difference between HD from antenna, and from a Rogers/Bell box, you would be ashamed you are paying either. Chalk one more up for big business, and -1 for quality.

If you guys want to cancel your Rogers and go over the air (OTA), the following forum will explain everything you want to know:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

If you want to just go ahead and buy an antenna, and you live in the city, by this one. Been using it now for over a year, and it is the best indoor 'HD antenna' on the market.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ZENITH-ZHDTV1-SI...1713.m153.l1262

A list of HD channels you might be able to get int he GTA and a map, with their statistics.
http://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv/index.html


Posted by NuERA on Apr-04-2008 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
nope. get yourself a free-to-air HD receiver with an 8psk module (viewsat 9000 HD is recommended). the only other way is to hack the dish vip 211 receiver which requires you to swap the tsop chips, pull the internal rom chip and mount it on a bga board, activate the card slow and unlock the bga card. however, i think subscription cloning is the only hack available for the vip series of receivers at the moment so that idea is down the shitter.

get a fta hd receiver and set up dishes for nimiq1 (known as 91 west for expressvu) for bell's main channel lineup, nimiq2 (known as 82 west for expressvu) mainly for expressvu hd, echostar8,10 (known as 110 west for dishnet) for half of dishnet's main channel lineup, echostar7 (119 west for dishnet) for the other half of dishnet's main channel lineup, and echostar5 (129 west for dishnet) for hd. the you're laughing cuz you will have probably over 2000 channels to watch all on the same receiver.


so you've heard, right?


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Mother of god, and how much HD content is there?


here are the lists of HD content per bird...
nimiq2 http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/nimiq2.html
echostar8 http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/echo8.html
echostar10 http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/echo10.html
echostar7 http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/echo7.html
echostar5 http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/echo5.html

here are the full lists of channels for each bird...
nimiq1 http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq1.html
nimiq2 http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq2.html
echostar8 http://www.lyngsat.com/echo8.html
echostar10 http://www.lyngsat.com/echo10.html
echostar7 http://www.lyngsat.com/echo7.html
echostar5 http://www.lyngsat.com/echo5.html

as for getting an OTA antenna, the best way to do it is get an outdoor antenna and mount it in your garage.


Posted by exstasie on Apr-04-2008 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by NuERA
so you've heard, right?


Copy + Paste from Digital Homes Message Board or Howard's Forums works wonders :P haha

jk Jay..



Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by NuERA
so you've heard, right?


i personally run two non-hd fta receivers. i know people that have the viewsat9000hd receiver and they have it running nicely. the concept in setting them up is the EXACT same as setting up my receivers. i was in the satellite "hacking" business many years ago so i think i would know more than the average person.


Posted by NuERA on Apr-04-2008 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i personally run two non-hd fta receivers. i know people that have the viewsat9000hd receiver and they have it running nicely. the concept in setting them up is the EXACT same as setting up my receivers. i was in the satellite "hacking" business many years ago so i think i would know more than the average person.


i think you misunderstood my funny.


Posted by Shaya007 on Apr-04-2008 20:18:

When it comes to satellite info just listen to what Chinamon has to say...






7


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Shaya007
When it comes to satellite info just listen to what Chinamon has to say...






7


lol. i remember when you came over and i worked on your receiver in my kitchen.


Posted by Shaya007 on Apr-04-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
lol. i remember when you came over and i worked on your receiver in my kitchen.


i still have it with the atmega card!lol!


Posted by Orko on Apr-04-2008 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
as for getting an OTA antenna, the best way to do it is get an outdoor antenna and mount it in your garage.


Most definitely. I just suggested that Zenith antenna for those living in the city in apartments.

Cracking satellite receivers eh? Sounds like a good new hobby


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Most definitely. I just suggested that Zenith antenna for those living in the city in apartments.

Cracking satellite receivers eh? Sounds like a good new hobby


its definitely fun.... but its addicting.
i had so much satellite tv in my house at one point, my dad was flipping out. lol. you should see the four dishes on my house. they are at the front of my house so everyone on my street knows i test satellite.

edit:


Posted by kotsy on Apr-04-2008 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
its definitely fun.... but its addicting.
i had so much satellite tv in my house at one point, my dad was flipping out. lol. you should see the four dishes on my house. they are at the front of my house so everyone on my street knows i test satellite.

edit:



lol, you're a fucking madman!


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-04-2008 22:18:

Good thing I canceled my cable service. It's faster (and commercial-free) to just download a movie or TV episode and play it on the media center.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-04-2008 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
lol, you're a fucking madman!


its only four dishes. i would put up a couple more if it didnt make my house look like NASA.


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