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Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 08:17:

Angry Who are these idiots at iTunes?

Who decided it was a good idea to sample the first 30 seconds of a electronic dance music track on iTunes? Who the hell will listen to raw 30 seconds or just "un ssss un ssss un ssss" and be like "oh yeah this track totally sounds awesome."

This is worse than sinks that spew out hot water that burns your hands at public restrooms.

People are actually SO stupid that they sample 30 seconds of a trance...or house...track that is purely only for a DJ to mix in or out of. There is NO reason for this.

SAMPLE THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK YOU FAAKING MORONS!

Sorry, I had to vent.

Also p.s. I hate people. Does anyone else feel my pain?


Posted by Fledz on Apr-07-2008 08:31:

First of all, why the hell are you using iTunes of all places for EDM


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 08:39:

Because when I check out tracks on beatport, 15% of the time it's on iTunes, and for only 99 cents.

AND SOMETIMES I BUY JANET JACKSON TRACKS! THERE I ADMITTED IT!

Oh yeah also my friend gave me a $50 iTunes giftcard.


Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-07-2008 09:00:

Re: Who are these idiots at iTunes?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Also p.s. I hate people. Does anyone else feel my pain?


I'm with you Jake. I hate people too.


Posted by T-Soma on Apr-07-2008 09:17:

The obvious guess is that they just have some kind of automated thing to make samples out of the tunes.
I haven't bought anything of I-tunes in ages, do they still bend you over with their rights management stuff on the tracks?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-07-2008 09:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
AND SOMETIMES I BUY JANET JACKSON TRACKS! THERE I ADMITTED IT!


sushi would like to take you bird watching. soon.


Posted by Ryan1524 on Apr-07-2008 09:32:

A lot of songs are sampled in the middle.

Just use BeatPort.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-07-2008 10:16:

Re: Who are these idiots at iTunes?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Who decided it was a good idea to sample the first 30 seconds of a electronic dance music track on iTunes?

the idiots are winning ?


Posted by jpisani on Apr-07-2008 12:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Because when I check out tracks on beatport, 15% of the time it's on iTunes, and for only 99 cents.

If you check them out on Beatport, why do you need to sample them on iTunes?


Posted by zeeshopper on Apr-07-2008 12:29:

Re: Who are these idiots at iTunes?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Who the hell will listen to raw 30 seconds or just "un ssss un ssss un ssss" and be like "oh yeah this track totally sounds awesome."


You obviously don't like Minimal.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
If you check them out on Beatport, why do you need to sample them on iTunes?


I think he's worried about everyone else. I can't really understand this whole "watching out for the well-being of others" mumbo jumbo, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's doing.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-07-2008 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
I think he's worried about everyone else.

Thats fuckin lame. Honestly, who does that?


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
Thats fuckin lame. Honestly, who does that?


Fags.


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
If you check them out on Beatport, why do you need to sample them on iTunes?


Here's where logic works:

1. check out tracks on beatport
2. double check to see which of the tracks I like from beatport are ALSO on iTunes
3. Buy the ones that are also on iTunes from iTunes
4. Save money

Just so happens when I browse on iTunes for anything a lot of songs are not sampled in the middle. Some songs (all those damn tiesto tracks) are privileged to come across people with brains that sample from the end of the build up to where the beat kicks back in. But more of the amateur or underground tracks are either run through a machine or through a really stupid person that should never exist in the first place.


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 13:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Fags.


I'd have to differ on this one. I think homosexuals would at least be intelligent enough to sample the middle of the track. Besides, they listen to fag house so I think they'd "get it" and know where the samples go.

My theory is iTunes is run by a bunch of goons who only pay attention to popular tracks, and probably think either all the other tracks follow the same formula (having commercial like qualities throughout the entire song) or purposefully ignore other tracks. I bet they look at EDM and think "just sample the first 30 seconds because I don't wanna listen to the whole track and I'm sure it's just like pop music right?" These are probably the same assholes that look at the stats in the end and go "gee no one likes house or trance music. I bet it's cuz the genres sucks and not because we sampled the first 30 seconds."

ITUNES CONSPIRACY!


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I'd have to differ on this one. I think homosexuals would at least be intelligent enough to sample the middle of the track.


...because they're looking out for the well-being of others


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
...because they're looking out for the well-being of others


Are you calling me gay?


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Are you calling me gay?


No, a fag.


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
No, a fag.


No, I'm gay. YOU'RE a fag. I mean, your name is TED. That's totally the name of some old dude that would come into a gay bar and be like "hey fellas I'm on vaca. Wanna come sit in my jacuzzi for a bit? I can make martinis and then give you a back rub with happy ending." Damn it Ted you are such a fag. You ruin the gay image for the rest of us!


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
No, I'm gay. YOU'RE a fag. I mean, your name is TED. That's totally the name of some old dude that would come into a gay bar and be like "hey fellas I'm on vaca. Wanna come sit in my jacuzzi for a bit? I can make martinis and then give you a back rub with happy ending." Damn it Ted you are such a fag. You ruin the gay image for the rest of us!



Whoaaaa nelly, who turned this ******ry into gayness here?


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Apr-07-2008 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
No, I'm gay. YOU'RE a fag. I mean, your name is TED. That's totally the name of some old dude that would come into a gay bar and be like "hey fellas I'm on vaca. Wanna come sit in my jacuzzi for a bit? I can make martinis and then give you a back rub with happy ending." Damn it Ted you are such a fag. You ruin the gay image for the rest of us!



Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Whoaaaa nelly, who turned this ******ry into gayness here?


You did Ted. You did.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-07-2008 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
You did Ted. You did.


oh, ok. Sweet!


Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-07-2008 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
oh, ok. Sweet!


Ahhhh you are cute.


Posted by jpisani on Apr-07-2008 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Here's where logic works:

1. check out tracks on beatport
2. double check to see which of the tracks I like from beatport are ALSO on iTunes
3. Buy the ones that are also on iTunes from iTunes
4. Save money

Just so happens when I browse on iTunes for anything a lot of songs are not sampled in the middle. Some songs (all those damn tiesto tracks) are privileged to come across people with brains that sample from the end of the build up to where the beat kicks back in. But more of the amateur or underground tracks are either run through a machine or through a really stupid person that should never exist in the first place.

Heres where reading what I wrote works:

1. I pretty much said, why would you care what the sample on iTunes is if you already heard the track on Beatport
2. See 1.

I wasn't doubting your process, I was wondering why it mattered.


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