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Posted by sufee_b on Apr-09-2008 14:36:

Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

Couple weeks old but this is about the story of the guy who was watching a bunch of strippers in Miss. and comes out into the parking lot and gets murdered because he sexually assaulted the killer's younger sister (who is underage btw). Of course according to report the guy was a "beautiful, kind and caring boy" lol. This shit pisses me off. Maybe he didn't deserve to die, but call a scum for what they are. Even that guy who shot the bouncer at club a month ago cause he hassled him for wearing a hat in the club was "an intelligent young man who was well respected in the community". Reason this shit pisses me off is because I knew a 17 year old girl who was sexually assaulted by some thug low life punk at a park and all the guy's mother said in the news "my son did no wrong. he is a gifted young man with a bright future" FACK! He is a piece of shit scum bag. Call a spade my a spade. Again, maybe the guy didn't deserve to die. But I certainly ain't going to lose any sleep when pieces of shit like this do.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2...233756-sun.html


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-09-2008 14:38:



well just in case you wanna get ur 2 cents in with them.. u can also find most of the accused name's in the news on Facebook ..


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-09-2008 15:02:

TOOOOOOO IRONIC!

Pervert killed at a strip club

I was just talking about this with co workers, minutes ago.

My skepticism has got me in hot water, I always point out that there is always more to the story...i.e. the young man who was walking home after a night at a friends house, takes a back field home, misteps and falls to his death, lets not forget he was going to change the world because he was in fire fighting courses in college. This usually equals he took some acid thought he could fly and jumped off a cliff or his gf broke up with him and he took the leap.

I guess everyones family would want their child,brother,nephew and so on to be remembered as a great person who was a great loss, but this recent surfacing of the sexual assault, now the tables turn sympathy is lost and the "good boy" stigma back fires in less than 24 hrs.

Not to wake laying dogs, but its like Andrew Fazio/CZ Raid. I'm sure he was a good kid, he wokre everyday, loved his mom, shoveled his neighbors drive way...but in the end he OD'd...the truth or fact in a "tragic" death always seems to be downplayed, you might aswell fabricated the deceased entire life.

Here's a good question: If you were to die tomorrow, what would the paper read? Would it be truth?


Posted by Geoffb3 on Apr-09-2008 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di
TOOOOOOO IRONIC!

Pervert killed at a strip club



LOL


Posted by teufel-man on Apr-09-2008 15:15:

Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
Couple weeks old but this is about the story of the guy who was watching a bunch of strippers in Miss. and comes out into the parking lot and gets murdered because he sexually assaulted the killer's younger sister (who is underage btw). Of course according to report the guy was a "beautiful, kind and caring boy" lol. This shit pisses me off. Maybe he didn't deserve to die, but call a scum for what they are. Even that guy who shot the bouncer at club a month ago cause he hassled him for wearing a hat in the club was "an intelligent young man who was well respected in the community". Reason this shit pisses me off is because I knew a 17 year old girl who was sexually assaulted by some thug low life punk at a park and all the guy's mother said in the news "my son did no wrong. he is a gifted young man with a bright future" FACK! He is a piece of shit scum bag. Call a spade my a spade. Again, maybe the guy didn't deserve to die. But I certainly ain't going to lose any sleep when pieces of shit like this do.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2...233756-sun.html


Yeah it is kind of ridiculous... especially when its some like Jane + Finch thug who has a huge criminal record and involved with gangs.... and then they are like 'he was such a nice boy who wouldn't hurt a fly or say bad things about anyone etc.'

In some cases the victims are relatively innocent but in most cases they arent.

In this case I am kind of skeptical though, mind you I only read the artical from The Star, but the girl he had 'sexually assaulted' had been to his house a few times.... so its not like he kidnapped this girl from a local schoolyard or something.

Sexual assault is always questionable: 1) did she have sex with the guy, but didnt actually want to, but didnt 'voice' her opinion 2) did she have sex with him and then later decide that it was a bad idea and then say that it was sexual assault... or 3) did he knowingly force her to have sex with him against her will

Obviously if it was case #3 then the guy got what he deserved, but if it was 1 or 2 then I can definitely side with the guy's family


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-09-2008 15:22:

Re: Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
Yeah it is kind of ridiculous... especially when its some like Jane + Finch thug who has a huge criminal record and involved with gangs.... and then they are like 'he was such a nice boy who wouldn't hurt a fly or say bad things about anyone etc.'



LOL

"Jamal, was an 18 yr old father of 3, who enjoyed basketball and was working on his grade 10"

HAHAHAAHA so typical man, they forget that in recent months he had been "bangin'" for the crips and slinging crack.

My Great Grandfather who lived to be 100 lived through 1903-2003, who saw both world wars, lived in the depression, civil rights movement, moon landing, he seen a horse and buggy evolve into a Ferrari (not literally) lol.

He passed this advice on to me "believe nothing you read or hear and only half of what you see"

People ask me why i read web chronicles and 3 or 4 newspapers a day when the world is so "sad" or "depressing" i tell them its a form of entertainment...after you've read a few stories or headlines, you've read them all.


Posted by sufee_b on Apr-09-2008 15:26:

Re: Re: Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di
LOL

"Jamal, was an 18 yr old father of 3, who enjoyed basketball and was working on his grade 10"

HAHAHAAHA so typical man, they forget that in recent months he had been "bangin'" for the crips and slinging crack.

My Great Grandfather who lived to be 100 lived through 1903-2003, who saw both world wars, lived in the depression, civil rights movement, moon landing, he seen a horse and buggy evolve into a Ferrari (not literally) lol.

He passed this advice on to me "believe nothing you read or hear and only half of what you see"

People ask me why i read web chronicles and 3 or 4 newspapers a day when the world is so "sad" or "depressing" i tell them its a form of entertainment...after you've read a few stories or headlines, you've read them all.


Yeah thats the most popular one lol. Tyrone murdered 16 year-old boy, "but he was a loving father of 6..." lol I swear I read something almost exactly like that one time.


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-09-2008 15:31:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
Yeah thats the most popular one lol. Tyrone murdered 16 year-old boy, "but he was a loving father of 6..." lol I swear I read something almost exactly like that one time.


LOL or they seem to give the dead lofty goals they don't have to reach anymore..well..because their dead.

"he hoped to be prime minister on day"

"he was an aspiring rapper known in his area as ------"

"he was going to be the first black billionaire C.E.O. of a major show polish company"


such a tragedy


Posted by teufel-man on Apr-09-2008 15:41:

A recent incident... The Jordan Manners kid from J+F, which I am sure was a descent kid, he was only 14 so even if he was a 'bad kid' he was still young enough to 'not know any better' I guess you could say

When he died they said the whole ANGEL thing (which I am not necessarily disagreeing with)... that he was a good kid, never got into trouble or involved in gangs...

and then a few days later his older sister was found in a house where they were doing a drug/gang raid... kind of ironic..


Posted by jonnystel on Apr-09-2008 18:52:

i hope the mother ****** rots in jail .. wow big deal he fucked ur sister. get over it its not a reason to kill him

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di
LOL

"Jamal, was an 18 yr old father of 3, who enjoyed basketball and was working on his grade 10"

HAHAHAAHA so typical man, they forget that in recent months he had been "bangin'" for the crips and slinging crack.


LOLLL


Posted by activate on Apr-09-2008 19:11:

Re: Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
or 3) did he knowingly force her to have sex with him against her will

Obviously if it was case #3 then the guy got what he deserved, but if it was 1 or 2 then I can definitely side with the guy's family




That doesn't mean someone deserves to die.

That means they deserve to spend time in jail being fucked in the ass as punishment.


Posted by Engine9 on Apr-09-2008 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by jonnystel
i hope the mother ****** rots in jail .. wow big deal he fucked ur sister. get over it its not a reason to kill him



LOLLL


funny thing is he didnt even screw his sister

he tried to and she slapped him so he left.


so the brother killed him for simply trying to have sex with his sister... what a retard, hopefuly a loooooooong jail term

she was prolly a hoe too


Posted by sufee_b on Apr-09-2008 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by jonnystel
i hope the mother ****** rots in jail .. wow big deal he fucked ur sister. get over it its not a reason to kill him



LOLLL


assaulted, big difference.

That story recently out of FL where bunch of retarded teens with nothing better to do video taped the beating of a poor girl. I'm sure all their parents are saying, "my kid was just there...they had nothing to do with it...hes an angel"


Posted by jonnystel on Apr-09-2008 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
assaulted, big difference.

That story recently out of FL where bunch of retarded teens with nothing better to do video taped the beating of a poor girl. I'm sure all their parents are saying, "my kid was just there...they had nothing to do with it...hes an angel"



dude.. these days assault is whistling at a girl lol. girls get away with EVERYTHING these days.. read the last post..and yea she probably was a hoe LOL

OH and yea i saw that video on ebaumsworld... HOLY shit.. man people are messed up these days... but dude i think if they posted a video of it.. theres a possibility that if the cops didnt get them.. someone else will lol


Posted by MarkT on Apr-09-2008 19:29:

This story is yet another example of one of two things (or both):

1. Parents who are so clueless about what their kids are up to, who their friends are, etc. that they genuinely believe that their little delinquent is an angel

or

2. Parents who know their kid is NOT an angel (quite the contrary), but are either in complete denial or so upset over their current circumstances/death that they refuse to believe or say anything negative about them.


Posted by sufee_b on Apr-09-2008 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by jonnystel
dude.. these days assault is whistling at a girl lol. read the last post..and yea she probably was a hoe LOL


I read it, the claim he grabbed her hands and tried to force her even after telling him to get off. Even if she was a ho she didnt want to be involved with his sorry ass.


Posted by Engine9 on Apr-09-2008 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
I read it, the claim he grabbed her hands and tried to force her even after telling him to get off. Even if she was a ho she didnt want to be involved with his sorry ass.


yea lol yet he was over at her house

and they were on E and drinking gahaha


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-09-2008 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jonnystel
dude.. these days assault is whistling at a girl lol. read the last post..and yea she probably was a hoe LOL


Agree and Disagree

I was typing a huge novelette on a personal experience lol

here's the CoR version.

Girls who cry rape - most of the time full of regret or ashamed or just an attention whore. MOST not all

Girls who are raped - feel ashamed and are hesitant to report anything immediately or ever.


This girl may have been forced into sex to an extent...or may have been drunk or high ( the article notes the deceased being accused of being drunk and high on X) and gave consent. It's also noted she was a long time friend of the deceased, a scenario in my mind is that maybe she was an instigator and lead him on, then he forced sex...and then after she came to or was in rage decided to press charges ( she also did a rape kit and provided sheets)

As this story has proven in just the last 24hrs with its twists and turns there is a lot we don't know about the situation yet.


Posted by sufee_b on Apr-09-2008 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Engine9
yea lol yet he was over at her house

and they were on E and drinking gahaha


girls come party at my condo all the time that doesnt mean I pin them down and try to force my manhood in them


Posted by Engine9 on Apr-09-2008 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
girls come party at my condo all the time that doesnt mean I pin them down and try to force my manhood in them


yeah he probably went too far, but not far enough to die over it


Posted by teufel-man on Apr-09-2008 20:04:

Re: Re: Re: Murder in Miss.: Is there anyone in this world who is NOT an angel?

quote:
Originally posted by activate
That doesn't mean someone deserves to die.

That means they deserve to spend time in jail being fucked in the ass as punishment.


yeah sorry, thats more or less what I meant

obviously the guy doesnt deserve to die, I dont know why I implicity wrote that...


Posted by Stilez on Apr-10-2008 04:55:

Totally agree with everything said in this thread so far.

On that note (and this will not sit well with some), but couldn't this also be applied to that dude who OD'd at zone? Wasn't he a 'well known' dealer?



It's always a 'got what he deserved' when it's someone else. Someone we don't know. Someone who you can sit back and easily pass judgment on, but never to someone who we knew or had some sort of connection with. By admitting that they were essentially 'bad', would mean that we too might be not as good as we imagine ourselves to be, and that we too one day might 'deserve' what's coming to us.


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Apr-10-2008 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di


Girls who cry rape - most of the time full of regret or ashamed or just an attention whore. MOST not all

Girls who are raped - feel ashamed and are hesitant to report anything immediately or ever.


i agree. and this girl didnt tell what happened to her brother, she tried hiding it so that he wouldnt flip. so im pretty sure she wasnt lying about what happened.

i have a younger sister and if something like this happened to her (God forbid) i wouldnt hesitate one second.


Posted by capo tutti di on Apr-10-2008 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
i agree. and this girl didnt tell what happened to her brother, she tried hiding it so that he wouldnt flip. so im pretty sure she wasnt lying about what happened.

i have a younger sister and if something like this happened to her (God forbid) i wouldnt hesitate one second.


I agree. We're human I'd love to have the power to turn the other cheek, but in the heat of the moment and when it involves loved ones, it easy to get lost in the moment.



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