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Posted by Krypton on Apr-09-2008 18:20:

Group Papers

I have this group paper on Noam Chomsky that I have to put together and edit. Thing is, FIVE people wrote different parts of it. That's FIVE different writing styles of varying degrees of proficiency. What pisses me off is how badly some people write. It just took me an hour to edit 5 pages of one of my partners who can't write worth SHIT. I might as well have re-written their entire part. People need to learn how to freakin write...

EDIT: Some of you may know about passive and active voice. University papers should always be written in active voice. If I have to edit 5 more pages of nothing but passive voice, I'm going to go insane...

Posted by SuspicionVandit on Apr-09-2008 18:23:

You shouldn't accept group papers to begin with.
and tell the teacher to fuck off if they try to force it on you.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-09-2008 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
You shouldn't accept group papers to begin with.
and tell the teacher to fuck off if they try to force it on you.

I'm sure that works well for a good grade.

Posted by Krypton on Apr-09-2008 19:52:

Me: Fuck off
Professor: Fuck your grade

Unless you're in an advanced program, group papers SUCK. I really don't know what the point was to have 5 people write one paper.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Apr-09-2008 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Me: Fuck off
Professor: Fuck your grade

Unless you're in an advanced program, group papers SUCK. I really don't know what the point was to have 5 people write one paper.

The professor's own amusement.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-09-2008 20:03:

its merely a lesson in working together with others, to achieve a goal...nothing more. Their hoping it will improve social skillz and get u ready for a real world working environment, however lame it might be. Get used to it.

Posted by Krypton on Apr-09-2008 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
its merely a lesson in working together with others, to achieve a goal...nothing more. Their hoping it will improve social skillz and get u ready for a real world working environment, however lame it might be. Get used to it.

I sure as hell won't be working with people who can't express themselves properly, but hey, school is filled with crap everyone hates doing.

Posted by bas on Apr-09-2008 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
its merely a lesson in working together with others, to achieve a goal...nothing more. Their hoping it will improve social skillz and get u ready for a real world working environment, however lame it might be. Get used to it.

Biggest line of bullshit ever. If you're in college and still having problems with your social skills, you need to take a good look at your life.

Posted by Frenchie on Apr-09-2008 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
its merely a lesson in working together with others, to achieve a goal...nothing more. Their hoping it will improve social skillz and get u ready for a real world working environment, however lame it might be. Get used to it.

eeeeeeen wrong. Try again. Yet again, I wouldn't expect much more from someone who still writes "u" instead of "you" and z's for s's.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-09-2008 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Biggest line of bullshit ever. If you're in college and still having problems with your social skills, you need to take a good look at your life.

umm, no...alot of college kids have shit for social/communication skills, well unless u major in basketweaving with all the frat boys. Try an organic chem class or equivalent and see how "social" they are.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-09-2008 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
eeeeeeen wrong. Try again. Yet again, I wouldn't expect much more from someone who still writes "u" instead of "you" and z's for s's.

oh wow u got me, its called shorthand for lazy fucks like me. Thats definitely a measure of intelligence.

Posted by bas on Apr-09-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
umm, no...alot of college kids have shit for social/communication skills, well unless u major in basketweaving with all the frat boys. Try an organic chem class or equivalent and see how "social" they are.

Umm no it's called being an adult.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-09-2008 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Umm no it's called being an adult.

lmao...we all know college kids are adults. Did we graduate high school yet?

Posted by bas on Apr-09-2008 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
lmao...we all know college kids are adults. Did we graduate high school yet?

You don't consider college students adults? Wow

Posted by Dervish on Apr-09-2008 20:36:

Re: Group Papers

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
EDIT: Some of you may know about passive and active voice. University papers should always be written in active voice. If I have to edit 5 more pages of nothing but passive voice, I'm going to go insane...

Not always, in engineering passive is standard. You'd never (ever, ever, ever, ever) use "I" in a thesis or report for example.

Posted by jdat on Apr-09-2008 20:53:

you aren't so mature and that aware if you only came to realize the issue now ....

You made no mention of a deadline but from the looks of it, it appears as if it may not be far off.

Should have anticipated issues, taken control early, had group meetups, at least something to organize a semblance of coherence in your work as a whole.

Sucks to be you.

Posted by Lira on Apr-09-2008 21:34:

I've got the perfect paper on Noam Chomsky:

On Noam Chomsky

by Marcus Lira

Avram Noam Chomsky (born December 7, 1928), is an American linguist that really (really!) needs a bloody pseudonym. Seriously, every God damn time I hear a non-linguist talk about Chomsky I'm like Wow, you know generative grammar and stuff?, and turns out the person just read (one of) his books about politics.

Seriously, I know you've got these anarchist ideas and all but... if you're reading this, please accept the idea that you're a committee rather than just a person. There are so many cool names you can come up with, like "Anarchin Skywalker" (for your work in Politics) "Noam Kunnin" (for your work in Linguistics).

Huh?

Posted by SuspicionVandit on Apr-09-2008 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I'm sure that works well for a good grade.

For the most part, if they ask for the lot to get in their own groups, I abstain and the teacher just shrugs it off.

quote:

Me: Fuck off
Professor: Fuck your grade

worked out for the best (for me) in high school). Joined an independent studies program and didn't have to deal with the high density of wanker saturation.

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-10-2008 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
For the most part, if they ask for the lot to get in their own groups, I abstain and the teacher just shrugs it off.

worked out for the best (for me) in high school). Joined an independent studies program and didn't have to deal with the high density of wanker saturation.

I always hated it, and if u can get away from it, your lucky. My professors always made us do it every now and then. If you didn't, u lost a letter grade. We always liked it since everyones grades were better!

Posted by tubularbills on Apr-10-2008 00:36:

lol, schoolwork

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-10-2008 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
lol, schoolwork

I know! I finished that shite in "03"

Posted by Krypton on Apr-10-2008 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
you aren't so mature and that aware if you only came to realize the issue now ....

You made no mention of a deadline but from the looks of it, it appears as if it may not be far off.

Should have anticipated issues, taken control early, had group meetups, at least something to organize a semblance of coherence in your work as a whole.

Sucks to be you.

Uh, we did. We've worked on it for the past 3 weeks.

Turned it in 5 hours ago. I'm expecting a good grade. We did everything that was asked in the syllabus.

I'm a stickler on writing style, so if you're working with me, and you can't write a sentence without having 3 or 4 commas in every PASSIVE sentence with run ons and missing words, you shouldn't be in university.

Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-10-2008 08:12:

I find that doing anything 'groupwork'-wise in school, whether it be project, speech, or paper, almost always ends up being a chap in the ass because theres always that one dude or girl who doesnt talk and therefore doesnt wanna do shit and provides absolutely nothing constructive to whatever needs to be done.

Posted by Dervish on Apr-10-2008 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm a stickler on writing style, so if you're working with me, and you can't write a sentence without having 3 or 4 commas in every PASSIVE sentence with run ons and missing words, you shouldn't be in university.

Sorry but have to do this because you're getting so worried about it. But that is a seriously long sentence!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm a stickler on writing style. So if you're working with me, and can't write a sentence without having 3 or 4 commas in every PASSIVE sentence. With run ons and missing words. You shouldn't be in university.

And as I said before passive is the correct form for science based submissions.