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The Ontario ban-wagon - Are we about to ban Ronald Mcdonald too???
Instead of banning things i think the liberals and NDP should come up with a list of allowable things. Im sure the list would be quite brief!
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| TORONTO -- Ontario is facing a "serious problem'' with overweight children and must do more to protect them by banning advertising directed at kids, NDP critic Rosario Marchese said. He plans to introduce a bill Monday amending the Consumer Protection Act to prohibit commercial television advertising for food or drink that is directed at a child under the age of 13. "We believe that marketers know when marketing works and it does affect dietary choices that children make,'' he said. "We know that corporations hire a lot of psychologists to market adequately to every category of age groups that one can think of. So we know that it affects kids.'' Research shows that one in four Canadian children between the ages of four and 17 is obese, and it's no wonder when children are being bombarded by television ads promoting sugar-packed soft drinks and other products, Marchese said. "What kids see on television is high in calories and low in nutrients,'' he added. "That's generally what kids watch on television.'' Toronto's medical officer of health has long recommended a ban and Quebec has banned all advertising aimed at children since 1982, Marchese said. The ban would also prohibit ads that promote healthy foods like yogurt and cereal, but Marchese said he's confident parents will be able to help their children make better dietary choices. "The general point is that children are very vulnerable and it's very difficult for them to make intellectual distinctions between... good and bad,'' he said. "Because we consider children to be a vulnerable group, our view is that we should prohibit commercial advertising altogether, so that we don't have to worry about distinguishing between this and that. We leave that to parents.'' Ontario's Liberal government introduced legislation in December that bans foods containing trans fats from school cafeterias and vending machines, but the NDP has complained that was a watered down effort. Chocolate bars, potato chips and soft drinks have already been banned from Ontario's elementary schools, but the Liberals say the legislation would enshrine that policy in law and eventually expand the junk food ban to include high schools. Trans fats, often found in french fries and other fast-food cafeteria staples, are being targeted around the world by advocates of healthy eating, who say the processed oil contributes to a host of health problems, including childhood obesity. Manitoba's NDP government has proposed to ban the sale of any food containing trans fats in the province's schools, while Prince Edward Island and Alberta have a voluntary ban on trans fats. The federal NDP have been pushing for a Canada-wide trans fat ban, which has been recommended by an all-party parliamentary task force. |
BTW if this happens im sure we can kiss most forms of childrens programming good bye unless of course, it's socially funded by the left wing.
kids don't make dietary choices....parents make the choices for the kids.....I am all for promoting healthy eating in schools and if that means banning things like pop, chocolate and chips from being sold in schools then I am for it.
fast food chains will not be run out of business so I don't think Ronald McDonald will be looking for employment anytime soon.
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced kids don't make dietary choices....parents make the choices for the kids..... |
It'd be smarter to throw $ at recreational programs and maintenance towards school facilities.
This also happening outside Canada:-
Children in a New Zealand school have been banned from bringing cakes to share on their birthdays, due to new government healthy eating guidelines.
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| Originally posted by infinity HiGH But if my kid WANTS McDonalds, what am I supposed to do?! lol Seriously though, they should ban the toys at McDonalds. That'll kill the real incentive for kids to want to go there. |
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| Originally posted by Swamper It'd be smarter to throw $ at recreational programs and maintenance towards school facilities. |
So lemme get this straight, you're defending a corporation's RIGHT to advertise its unhealthy products to children of an age that can't make well considered decisions?
Seriously?
This isn't even a personal freedom we're talking about. It's ADVERTISING.
When were were too young to know what was good or not for us Macdonald's told us that it tasted good. Advertising to such a malleable audience becomes education, and it is not like Macdonald's is in the business of being honest with their most naive customers.
Parents and by default politicians need to act in the protection of children's interests.
The bottom line is that fast food is bad food, always. The less they are indoctrinated with the choices that Macdonald's has to offer the better.
Even though I know what your overall issue is with this I am not quite sure what your issue is with this specific offering, other than political postering and right wing bell ringing.
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| Originally posted by Skipper So lemme get this straight, you're defending a corporation's RIGHT to advertise its unhealthy products to children of an age that can't make well considered decisions? |
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| Originally posted by 7-4-7 Parents and by default politicians need to act in the protection of children's interests. |
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| Originally posted by DigiNut Um, yes? If you don't mind, please explain to us again where it's specified that advertising is not subject to section 2, subsections (b), (c) and (d) of the CCRF? Or is it "corporations" that are excepted? Last time I checked, advertising is in fact a personal freedom, and corporations are entitled to the same freedoms as individuals. |
Ah, yes, just how many oppressive laws have been enacted worldwide throughout history in the name of protecting the children... so silly to assume that parents might take any responsibility in bringing them up!
You want to talk about indoctrination in schools, take a look at the curriculum, not at the friggin' food. [/QUOTE]
Your vague gem, touches on a million nothings that make it simply too difficult to engage.
I didnt talk about indoctrination in schools, you did. But our policy makers should be more than capable of carring on two conversations at the same time especially when the end results are interconnected; in this case sure curriculum's should be drastically changed, but so should eating habits and nutritional directions fed to kids given rising obesity rates and increases in diabetes.
And your compelling idea to "not look at the friggin' food" is weak.
Schools in Canada sell horrible food to kids at the youngest ages...pop, chips, pizza, chocolate etc etc. In Singapore, all schools are forbidden to sell pop, chips, chocolate, fries, hamburgers. It was not the cirriculum that made the determination to dictate the menu in the cafeteria.
It was the government.
that's bullshit... Are parents such wimps to give in to their little whiny bastards?
Parents can make up their own minds. How many kids are on a payroll/allowance to buy this on their own?
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| Originally posted by Skipper So lemme get this straight, you're defending a corporation's RIGHT to advertise its unhealthy products to children of an age that can't make well considered decisions? Seriously? This isn't even a personal freedom we're talking about. It's ADVERTISING. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Um, I'm mostly just referring to Jay's next level whining and complaining about the regulations in this province. Did he actually run out of things to whine about that affect him personally? IS THAT POSSIBLE? Do you think children have the ability to think about advertising critically? |
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie that's bullshit... Are parents such wimps to give in to their little whiny bastards? Parents can make up their own minds. How many kids are on a payroll/allowance to buy this on their own? |
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| Originally posted by UmmiE This also happening outside Canada:- Children in a New Zealand school have been banned from bringing cakes to share on their birthdays, due to new government healthy eating guidelines. Link |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Do you think children have the ability to think about advertising critically? |
Fuck McDonald's... Ronald McDonald scares the shit out of me 
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 BTW if this happens im sure we can kiss most forms of childrens programming good bye unless of course, it's socially funded by the left wing. |
Re: The Ontario ban-wagon - Are we about to ban Ronald Mcdonald too???
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Trans fats, often found in french fries and other fast-food cafeteria staples |
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| Originally posted by Jer. On that note, has anyone here eaten McDonalds in another country? Fucking GLORIOUS |
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| Originally posted by Jer. On that note, has anyone here eaten McDonalds in another country? Fucking GLORIOUS |
mcdonalds in thailand actually looked like the photos. And it was really good!
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