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An ability I'm yet to master

Namely, the ability of pointing out absurd fallacies in absurd discussions (this thread is made of wtf and nerdiness, if you're drunk/sleepy please skip to the core version at the end of this post).

Tonight my girlfriend and I were walking on the mall, enjoying ourselves, when my phone rang. It was my brother, and he asked me how to prepare konnyaku jelly. Puzzled, I told him how my girlfriend prepared it: with caustic soda.

That's when a friend of his grabbed the phone and started telling me he still had all his fingers, that he has prepared this dish before in his life, and he couldn't possibly have used caustic soda. I was flabbergasted. I then explained myself, telling him that this is how my girlfriend prepared the damn dish. He then proceeded to blabble about how that was impossible, and even passed the phone to a friend of his who had no idea of what was going on (but had had the dish before).

Now, as absurd as it might be, he just made a hasty generalisation (i.e. "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do"). But I was so surprised by his incredulity that I couldn't point that out (which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly).

I guess I need to work on my argumentation skills...

CORe version: I never knew someone actually cared that much about jelly, bitches don't know 'bout caustic soda, and I couldn't tell 'em 'bout it either.

Ah yes...I remember taking a course that delved into this my first year of college. I may still have the text book somewhere.

his fingers?

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LOL

I've had similar instances with someone and realized it's easier to be brief and to the point, otherwise I always ended up feeling I wasted my breath in trying to prove a point - that he was in the wrong. By then it seems I offended him.

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Originally posted by Lira ...which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly).

Did he argue about that one?

I've read somewhere that the idea of arguing with a fool is mutual. Here's another I just found: "Never argue with a fool. Someone watching may not be able to tell the difference."

caustic soda?

Same sort of caustic soda you clean drains with?

i liek konnyaku jelly candy

After reading those examples, I've concluded that a hasty generalisation is arguably the most bizarre thing in life.

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Originally posted by Lira Namely, the ability of pointing out absurd fallacies in absurd discussions (this thread is made of wtf and nerdiness, if you're drunk/sleepy please skip to the core version at the end of this post). Tonight my girlfriend and I were walking on the mall, enjoying ourselves, when my phone rang. It was my brother, and he asked me how to prepare konnyaku jelly. Puzzled, I told him how my girlfriend prepared it: with caustic soda. That's when a friend of his grabbed the phone and started telling me he still had all his fingers, that he has prepared this dish before in his life, and he couldn't possibly have used caustic soda. I was flabbergasted. I then explained myself, telling him that this is how my girlfriend prepared the damn dish. He then proceeded to blabble about how that was impossible, and even passed the phone to a friend of his who had no idea of what was going on (but had had the dish before). Now, as absurd as it might be, he just made a hasty generalisation (i.e. "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do"). But I was so surprised by his incredulity that I couldn't point that out (which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly). I guess I need to work on my argumentation skills... CORe version: I never knew someone actually cared that much about jelly, bitches don't know 'bout caustic soda, and I couldn't tell 'em 'bout it either.

Do what I do in the 911 threads. Call them a cvnt and then rape their children.

i just tell people they're crazy and insane when they're absolutely wrong, I also tell them I'm willing to put money like a 100$ to back my claim... usually people back off, or check google

I can't tell - are you making food or explosives?












I fuckin' refuse to google it.

Caustic soda? Not baking soda? (or bi-carb of soda/sodium bicarbonate, depending on what you call it?)

At any rate, if they're using caustic soda they'll be dead by now and problem solved!

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Originally posted by Lilith At any rate, if they're using caustic soda they'll be dead by now and problem solved!

Yeah, seriously

You use Sodium Hydroxide to make edible jelly?

Ummm dude, I think you might be thinking of bi-carb soda. Sodium Hydroxide is strongly alkaline and I have no idea where you would just casually get it anyway. It's not like you can buy it a supermarket, or at least you couldn't last time I checked...

Caustic soda for cooking...i don't know mate this is from wikipedia...




Sodium hydroxide has also been used by criminals and serial killers to dispose of their victims' bodies


This is a process that was used with farm animals at one time. This process involves the placing of a carcass into a sealed chamber, which then puts the carcass in a mixture of sodium hydroxide and water, which breaks chemical bonds keeping the body intact. This eventually turns the body into a coffee-like liquid, and the only solid remains are bone hulls, which could be crushed between one's fingertips.









(p.s.according to wikiepdia there are actually some uses of sodium hydroxide in food preparation or smthg)

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Originally posted by BTG his fingers?

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Originally posted by Fledz You use Sodium Hydroxide to make edible jelly?

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Originally posted by Lilith caustic soda? Same sort of caustic soda you clean drains with?

Yup, that's why people think it's strange. I am talking about the lovely and corrosive caustic soda, the one you use to clean drains, kill people and process food

Seriously, it's not like we soak it in soda and then eat it right away. My girlfriend lives in a farm, not in a apocalyptic cult You just let it corrode the yam for a while and then you cook it several times so it can be edible again. And... That's it. Besides, it doesn't take inhumane amounts of soda or anything.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Did he argue about that one?

Almost. His only argument was "I use some powder to make it, and there's no caustic soda in it, so no one could possibly use it!"... when I inquired him about the ingredients, he couldn't tell me, but he kept on insisting that there was no caustic soda, and no one else in the world used it. Now you can understand why I was frustrated to have spent so much time in an utterly pointless discussion

Using caustic soda for home-cooking sounds so odd that I'd probably make the same assumption as your friend.

It's not a case of "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do" - it's a case of "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, and this sounds so freaking ridiculous, that it's obvious this guy must be bullshitting me".

should've put your gf on the phone.

did the flowers die

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Originally posted by noikeee Using caustic soda for home-cooking sounds so odd that I'd probably make the same assumption as your friend. It's not a case of "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do" - it's a case of "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, and this sounds so freaking ridiculous, that it's obvious this guy must be bullshitting me".

Povo incr�dulo

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Originally posted by trunks1022 should've put your gf on the phone.

Oh, I did, after realising he just wouldn't take my word for it. Didn't quite work... besides, she was almost as irate as I was at the guy

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Originally posted by trunks1022 did the flowers die

No. I eventually bought her lilies, they're supposed to live longer than roses

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Originally posted by Lira I eventually bought her lilies, they're supposed to live longer than roses

They do. Next you can buy her orchids, which last at least a month or 2

some recipies for making ghb from gbl uses caustic soda.. which is kinda ironic since ghb is an acid.. :P

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred They do. Next you can buy her orchids, which last at least a month or 2

buy potatoes, not flowers!

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Originally posted by dj_alfi some recipies for making ghb from gbl uses caustic soda.. which is kinda ironic since ghb is an acid.. :P

alot of drugs are acidic, so they will titrate in the body.

Just hang up

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