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Posted by JD8180 on Apr-16-2008 05:45:
buying second hand monitors
found a decent deal on some Behringer Truth B2031A's for $250 on craigslist (I think I may be able to haggle the price down as he's been selling for some time now). is it worth it to buy monitors used? in the description it says it wasn't used too much and still owns the boxes and everything. if it is worth it, what are some things i should look for/test when i meet up with him?
Posted by Storyteller on Apr-16-2008 07:38:
If monitors have been used properly there's nothing but good things to say about buying monitors second hand except for warranty.
More quality for less money 
Posted by nefardec on Apr-16-2008 07:54:
you can get new ones for 250 on ebay.
I bought mine from a store new for 320.
Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-16-2008 16:43:
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Originally posted by JD8180
found a decent deal on some Behringer Truth B2031A's for $250 on craigslist (I think I may be able to haggle the price down as he's been selling for some time now). is it worth it to buy monitors used? in the description it says it wasn't used too much and still owns the boxes and everything. if it is worth it, what are some things i should look for/test when i meet up with him? |
yea if u can talk him down a bit more, then go for it...though anything Behringer I usually run the other way from.
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-16-2008 17:04:
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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
yea if u can talk him down a bit more, then go for it...though anything Behringer I usually run the other way from. |
yes, but i've heard nothing but good things from their line of monitors.
Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-16-2008 17:52:
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Originally posted by JD8180
yes, but i've heard nothing but good things from their line of monitors. |
I price matched a website at a local Sam Ash for 270 new. The guy didnt realize he should've taken the 45.00 shipping into effect too. Heh. You could try that and see if you get lucky.
Posted by Storyteller on Apr-16-2008 18:16:
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Originally posted by JD8180
yes, but i've heard nothing but good things from their line of monitors. |
They're not bad, but there are better monitors in the same price range now. About 5 yrs ago (when I got my behringers) these where the only low budget monitors around. They go insanely loud which is fun to get that club feel at home when practising 
Make sure the have the grey fronts and you're all good. If it's the shiny black ones, those are a bit less good (in terms of sound). Still ok though. Especially since you're getting them quite cheap and all
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-16-2008 19:27:
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Originally posted by miamitranceman
I price matched a website at a local Sam Ash for 270 new. The guy didnt realize he should've taken the 45.00 shipping into effect too. Heh. You could try that and see if you get lucky. |
i am going to try this route for now. much rather pay a tiny bit more to get them brand new with warranty and all. if it doesn't work then i will go for the craigslist. i already found the website offering at $270. so hopefully they will match that price too.
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-16-2008 19:30:
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Originally posted by Storyteller
Make sure the have the grey fronts and you're all good. If it's the shiny black ones, those are a bit less good (in terms of sound). Still ok though. Especially since you're getting them quite cheap and all |
are the grey fronts a different model number? or are just some b2031a's grey/better and some black/worse?
also, what are some of the better monitors within that price range that you speak of? i'm a monitor noob and only keep hearing about the krk's and the truth's.
Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-16-2008 19:39:
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Originally posted by JD8180
i am going to try this route for now. much rather pay a tiny bit more to get them brand new with warranty and all. if it doesn't work then i will go for the craigslist. i already found the website offering at $270. so hopefully they will match that price too. |
Smart man. I'm sure you'll be happy with them. I'm just a brand whore when it comes to electronics, though a friend had some Behringer monitors, and they were extremely harsh and lacked any bass response.
Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-16-2008 20:41:
i bought a pair on Amazon from seller GT.
$270+$25shipping = $295 total
they get delivered in under a week.
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-16-2008 21:07:
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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
i bought a pair on Amazon from seller GT.
$270+$25shipping = $295 total
they get delivered in under a week. |
good call, just looked it up and there's a seller saying they're an authorized dealer for 270+24. if sam ash fails on me, i will definitely take this route as i probably would have paid just about the same after tax.
thanks for everyone's input!!
Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-16-2008 21:38:
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Originally posted by JD8180
i am going to try this route for now. much rather pay a tiny bit more to get them brand new with warranty and all. if it doesn't work then i will go for the craigslist. i already found the website offering at $270. so hopefully they will match that price too. |
Haha, oh damn, I just realized you're from Miami too. I went to the Dolphin Mall Sam Ash. But watch out bc they might have caught it looking over the daily receipts!
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-17-2008 00:50:
just bought the pair new for $270+tax. i really wonder if these places that guarantee to match the lowest price, if you could just make a fake html page and print it out with pretty low prices (nothing too crazy).
the manager came and looked at my print out and said it was fine.
Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-17-2008 02:35:
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Originally posted by JD8180
just bought the pair new for $270+tax. i really wonder if these places that guarantee to match the lowest price, if you could just make a fake html page and print it out with pretty low prices (nothing too crazy).
the manager came and looked at my print out and said it was fine. |
From Sam Ash?
That's great!
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-17-2008 02:45:
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Originally posted by miamitranceman
From Sam Ash?
That's great! |
yup.. thanks for that idea, seriously!
Posted by Search&Rescue on Apr-17-2008 02:53:
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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
i bought a pair on Amazon from seller GT.
$270+$25shipping = $295 total
they get delivered in under a week. |
were they shipped from the US? if so, was there any import duty/tax from the border customs?
Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-17-2008 03:51:
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were they shipped from the US? if so, was there any import duty/tax from the border customs? |
They shipped from california. But I work in the US so I had them shipped to my work.
Posted by Storyteller on Apr-17-2008 07:18:
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Originally posted by JD8180
are the grey fronts a different model number? or are just some b2031a's grey/better and some black/worse?
also, what are some of the better monitors within that price range that you speak of? i'm a monitor noob and only keep hearing about the krk's and the truth's. |
I've been listening around some shops for a new set. The newer (black shiny front) Behringers are from another (newer) build. They seem to be quite bass heavy. They expose less detail in that frequency range compared to the older models (with the grey front).
KRK's are a bit newer than the Behringers. They're around for about 3 years now? When the Behringers have around six. Anyway, I would prefer the KRK rp-8 over the behringers having heard them in my local music shop. They show a bit more detail over the entire frequency range. The rp-5 and rp-6 aren't very interesting in my opinion. They lack bass definition and did not impress me at all.
In the price range of max 250Euro per speaker, which imo is the low budget range there's one more (serious) competitor. However do mind most speakers are priced way lower in the US
. The KRK Rokit RP-8 goes for 250Euro a piece here while it goed for 199$ a piece in the US (and possible cheaper as well
).
Back to the other model, the Yamaha HS80M. Which is better than the Behringers and KRK budget models in my opinion. A lot of details in the mid range especially. And they sound a little bit less fresh (a tad less high freq) which makes it easier on the ears to listen to for longer timespans.
In the end they're all pretty good given their price. Behringers would now be the cheapest by far. The Yamaha and KRK would probably cost you 199$ per speaker, new that is.
If you can find any of the aforementioned speakers at a good price you will be very happy. Behringers go insanely loud and don't blow up very easy because of the built in limiter. KRK's go very very loud as well
. The Yamaha doesn't go as loud but offers a bit more detail to the sounds it reproduces. Hope it helps. Just make sure you are happy about your purchase
Posted by Search&Rescue on Apr-17-2008 13:44:
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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
They shipped from california. But I work in the US so I had them shipped to my work. |
ah! sneaky.
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-17-2008 16:30:
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the thing with the krk's is that aren't those flat response? i'm assuming that is probably more precise, but this is just a hobby of mine and i'd rather get monitors that i can also enjoy the sound more (personally, i really don't even know how much of a difference flat response makes).
right now i'm happy with this purchase, it's almost two for the price of one when compared to the krk's/yamaha's so i'll stick with it for now since i'm on a budget. the truths seem like they sell well on ebay so if i ever feel like upgrading i could always take that route.
Posted by Storyteller on Apr-17-2008 19:51:
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All monitors are built to have a flat response 
Posted by JD8180 on Apr-18-2008 00:03:
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All monitors are built to have a flat response |
then what's with all the countless arguments that the KRK's are more for studio use, and people arguing as to why dj's would use them as it's a more flat sound?
Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-18-2008 03:42:
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Originally posted by JD8180
then what's with all the countless arguments that the KRK's are more for studio use, and people arguing as to why dj's would use them as it's a more flat sound? |
not all of them are identical...however all monitors are made to have a flat response.
The whole point of a monitor is to play the same as what the "artist intended". When a track is produced, it is done using monitors. So if you want to hear a track as the artist intended it to be, you have to use monitors yourself.
Flat response may not be everyone's preference, as people like more bass or more highs or whatever else.
BTW the truths do have some switches on the back so you can boost bass/treble/highs anywhere from 2-6dB.
Posted by Storyteller on Apr-18-2008 08:39:
It doesn't boost, only cut 
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