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Posted by Dervish on Apr-17-2008 03:56:

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

I bought this 2 days ago (downloaded from the store)..... All I can say is gash!

It's rubbish. Every time I load it it goes to download a "update" (even the first time it was loaded). This dies after 15 mins then the game starts ace...

Then the actual game. It's essentially like a SERIOUSLY cut down gittery rumble free version of Forenza off the 360. Believe me I've got both. Do not under any circumstances buy this.

It's like the demo but with more cars and A FEW more tracks (the one from the demo is in it...). In conclusion... gash.


Posted by biznology on Apr-17-2008 08:22:

yeh i dunno what to think. there was a time when GT made me NEED a playstation, but to be honest i dont think they are even trying anymore. its all just spending 5 years updating the cars and graphics, but i doubt i could tell much of a difference in the driving model from 2 to 4.


sure, it looks prettier, but the AI is still retarded, the collision model is basic and i just dont feel like spending 500 dollars on a system and racing game that is partially done|


Posted by Dervish on Apr-17-2008 09:21:

Honestly FM2 on 360 is a lot better even if it didn't have damage. Even if you couldn't fully customize your car paint it they way you want sell it online buy others. All things not in GT5 never mind the demo they are selling for �25.

Even then FM2 would be better because the physics and tracks are better. The graphics are better. Interface is better. Everything is.


Posted by supervisor on Apr-17-2008 11:13:

I have the GT5 prologue and it worked very fine. I love the graphics of this game.


Posted by spc on Apr-17-2008 11:34:

i picked it up yesterday and i really enjoy what they have done with it so far, at least on the offline playing side.

playing online is fucking atrocious. every single race i've raced in online has been a complete shitshow. at least 75% of the people playing i've played with online must be 12 and/or braindead, constantly ride the outside walls when turning, and try to hit your car whenever any opportunity is granted. it sucks for the people who want to race properly. they really really REALLY need to include car damage and stiffer penalties for purposely hitting other cars, taking shortcuts thru grass, etc.

and how in christ do i race against my friends online? it seems like the servers just decide who you play with.


Posted by zokissima on Apr-17-2008 13:04:

Ouch, not the kind of reviews I wanted to be hearing..

Dammit, and I'm just about to go out now to buy a PS3...


Posted by Mmanu on Apr-17-2008 15:10:

yup, played it. 5 cars and a half to choose from. 5 stupid ring circuits except for suzuka---> impossible to race that track properly on line, since it's more a destruction derby style of racing, except without the car damage. You want to play with your friends? Not possible, just invite them over, hook up a few Ps2's, copies of GT4 and TVs.

If this is the prologue of what's coming up, then there's worse to come. �20 for a demo so far, half an hour lifespan, and that's being generous


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-17-2008 16:01:

The complaints I'm hearing are basically "too few cars, too few tracks, no car damage, people playing online are dumb".

Too few cars - This will be addressed in the full version

Too few tracks - Same

Car damage - Same

People playing online are dumb - This is not the game's fault, it's humanities.


Realize you bought a game with PROLOGUE in the title, meaning an introduction, or demo. I am NOT going to buy this, I could have told you from the start that it would be stupid to spend $39.99 when Polyphony Digital is CLEARLY selling the same game twice to make more money off hardcore GT fans. Ya'll should have waited until April 2009 when the REAL deal hits stores.


Posted by biznology on Apr-17-2008 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
... Ya'll should have waited until April 20xx when the REAL deal hits stores.



fixed.


Posted by zokissima on Apr-18-2008 14:14:

I gave it a brief spin last night. One of the things that bothers me a bit is that you do not have tuning (or none that I saw) in the demo, but whatever, it is a demo, albeit a ludicrously overpriced one.

It definitely whetted my appetite for the Real McCoy.


Posted by Dervish on Apr-19-2008 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
The complaints I'm hearing are basically "too few cars, too few tracks, no car damage, people playing online are dumb".

Too few cars - This will be addressed in the full version

Too few tracks - Same

Car damage - Same

People playing online are dumb - This is not the game's fault, it's humanities.


Is there going to be damage? I'm not so sure.

End of the day this is what a year after FM2 and is shiter. Even the full version I'm not expecting much more aside from more of the same plus tuning.

Notice a lot of the probs I mentioned weren't just about too few tracks/cars. And I HAVE played it.


Posted by biznology on Apr-19-2008 21:12:

most people argue that Forza had shit damage because your car isnt totally destroyed after hitting something at speed. therefore GT is more realistic by not having damage. i say bs as racing games and anyone who has actually played a racing game with damage knows that its the slight damage which slows you and ruins your chances of winning that will cost you the race.

but most seem stuck in the GT mindset that going off the course and winning a race is a possibility (since in GT you just tune your car above your opponents and then slingshot around the course using walls and cars to win if necessary) where in real life, or most of the time in Forza, going off the course will cost you a win.

i think my main concern are that the cars still dont look like they are driving on the ground, just floating, where Forza had decent physics modeling the tire contact points, etc. additionally the tire squeal is the same fucking tire squeal they have used since 2 or earlier. most tires dont make that noise and different tires and tread patterns would alter the sound as well.

to even think that tires squealing would be as loud or louder than a race car is pretty shitty anyways. i do think they use the tire squeal to indicate wear on the higher difficulties, but by that time a driver should be able to figure that out themselves|


Posted by spc on Apr-24-2008 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Too few cars - This will be addressed in the full version

Too few tracks - Same

Car damage - Same

People playing online are dumb - This is not the game's fault, it's humanities.


Car damage will be implemented in a later update for GT5 prologue rather than just the full package. Private games will also be implemented in a future update as well so that the only dumb drivers I have to deal with are my friends.


Posted by Mmanu on Apr-25-2008 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
The complaints I'm hearing are basically "too few cars, too few tracks, no car damage, people playing online are dumb".

Too few cars - This will be addressed in the full version

Too few tracks - Same

Car damage - Same

People playing online are dumb - This is not the game's fault, it's humanities.


Realize you bought a game with PROLOGUE in the title, meaning an introduction, or demo. I am NOT going to buy this, I could have told you from the start that it would be stupid to spend $39.99 when Polyphony Digital is CLEARLY selling the same game twice to make more money off hardcore GT fans. Ya'll should have waited until April 2009 when the REAL deal hits stores.


They should have called it a demo, and release it for free, because it is waaaay limited. I'm glad a friend bought it so I would save the bucks. Thanks for the extra bit of info though


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-25-2008 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Is there going to be damage? I'm not so sure.

End of the day this is what a year after FM2 and is shiter. Even the full version I'm not expecting much more aside from more of the same plus tuning.

Notice a lot of the probs I mentioned weren't just about too few tracks/cars. And I HAVE played it.


Sorry for coming off a little harsh, I understand that after you've played it a few times and are a little disappointed that you spent $39.99 for a game you believe to be inferior to another game you already own (at least I think you own it)

With your issue on the updates...surely this won't last forever. I heard that Sony pumped out two patches right after Prologue launched, and chances are, by coincidence, you just happened to play right around those two times. This issue will wear off if it hasn't done so already.

As for the rumble-free aspect...well, this has been fixed with the release of the Dual Shock 3, but you will have to buy that if you wanna get a little jitter in your controller. Too bad Sony didn't jump on that boat, say, back when the PS3 first launched. They claimed Sixaxis + Dual Shock combined was impossible, that they were 'interfere' with each other...but the Wii had even BETTER motion sensing AND it also had rumble features...and now a sixaxix + dual shock controller has arrived somehow as if an epiphone occurred and the technologies can work harmoniously after all! Hmmm.

I've never played Forza, so I can't agree or disagree on your comparison. All I know is that Gran Turismo has a bigger fanbase, so I would GENERALLY assume (and in JUST this context) that GT would be the better series. From the looks of your playthrough, doesn't look like thats the case however.

quote:
Originally posted by spc
Car damage will be implemented in a later update for GT5 prologue rather than just the full package. Private games will also be implemented in a future update as well so that the only dumb drivers I have to deal with are my friends.


Outstanding stuff. I think I read something akin to what you said on IGN at one point. Good thing we don't have to wait until the full version, whenever that is. (as biznology corrected me on my last post ) (that release of April 2009 was merely a guess since an interview with Polyphony Digital on PS3Fanboy had them saying "the full version still has at least one more year to go"...Prologue launches April 08, one year later is April 09, though obviously they were not being specific.)

quote:
Originally posted by Mmanu
They should have called it a demo, and release it for free, because it is waaaay limited. I'm glad a friend bought it so I would save the bucks. Thanks for the extra bit of info though


Anytime. And I would agree that they really should have just added new features to the already-released Gran Turismo HD on the PSN. Prologue is essentially GT HD, but with a few more tracks, some more cars, and online multiplayer. It was essentially just an expansion pack and definitely not worth $39.99 if you ask me.



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