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Posted by Subtle on Apr-17-2008 10:56:

Analog Bass Synth

Alright, so I want an hardware synthesizer, who produce good deep bass for house music and the likes.

I have been looking at the following synths:

Alesis Andromeda
Roland 101
Moog Voyager

any more suggestions to well known synthesizer that makes true analog bass ?


Posted by echosystm on Apr-17-2008 11:03:

studio electronics se1x seems to be popular


Posted by derail on Apr-17-2008 12:26:

I'd be really interested to hear a Waldorf Pulse. A couple went through eBay recently, but went out of my price range. I have a couple of Waldorf synths already, the Pulse intrigues me. I think it'd be a decent pickup.

Andromedas also - at some point I'll grab one of these as well, as long as the price is right. I think an Andromeda would add a completely new texture to my palette.


Posted by Subtle on Apr-17-2008 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
studio electronics se1x seems to be popular
interesting, but expensive.. could get an Andromeda for that price.


Posted by thecYrus on Apr-17-2008 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
interesting, but expensive.. could get an Andromeda for that price.


andromeda is one of the less analog sounding analog synths

if you want THE analog sound, get a moog.


Posted by Subtle on Apr-17-2008 14:24:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
andromeda is one of the less analog sounding analog synths

if you want THE analog sound, get a moog.
Ok, but which Moog would that be ?


Posted by echosystm on Apr-17-2008 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Ok, but which Moog would that be ?


the one you can afford


Posted by Subtle on Apr-17-2008 14:34:

What are the limitations on lets say a Moog Little Phatty contra Voyager ?


Posted by Beyer on Apr-17-2008 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
andromeda is one of the less analog sounding analog synths

if you want THE analog sound, get a moog.


I agree to some extent, but the Andromeda sounds imo nothing less "analog" than any other analog synth - it just doesn't sound as raw as an old prophet, or quite as fat as a moog. Bass isn't the andromeda's strong card, but it's definitely possible to make some earth-shaking basses with it. I mean, it's 16 voice polyphony - it's quite possibly the most diverse analog synth ever made - But if you're after a synth mainly for bass, the moogs are definitely "better".


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-17-2008 16:09:

Have you checked out the Dave Smith synths? The Prophet 08 looks promising. Or, if you're looking for a mono synth, the Evolver (digital/analog hybrid) can be had for dirt cheap and makes some pretty sick basses.

Also check out the Novation Bass Station.


Posted by alanzo on Apr-17-2008 16:34:

I'd like to get an analog synth some day... my current top list of analog synths :

Alesis Andromeda (I wish they hadn't cancelled the rack version...)
Moog Voyager Rack
Prophet '08 Rack


Posted by dannib on Apr-17-2008 16:45:

i produce house music and also have a few analog synths. My favorite for bass are the moog voyager and waldorf pulse. I had an andromeda and sold it as i didn't like it. For polyphonic stuff i use a prohpet 08 keyboard. The andromeda was hard to get anything amazing out of, whilst the moog and prohet sound brialliant all the time.


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-17-2008 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Also check out the Novation Bass Station.

Bass Station is a VA.


Posted by alanzo on Apr-17-2008 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Bass Station is a VA.


Is not. It's a shitty analog synth

The Bass Station is an incredible little synth and was an instant success when released. It is a monophonic analog bass synthesizer and is basically the first new analog synth to hit the modern music market.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/nvbs.shtml


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-17-2008 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Is not. It's a shitty analog synth

The Bass Station is an incredible little synth and was an instant success when released. It is a monophonic analog bass synthesizer and is basically the first new analog synth to hit the modern music market.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/nvbs.shtml


Before the famous Novation BassStation Rack module came the small and portable BassStation Keyboard! Basically a 2-octave keyboard with a BassStation rack built-in. This synthesizer uses analog sound emulation to reproduce the sounds of a monophonic 2-VCO analog synthesizer with the same simple and intuitive controls via 17 knobs, 10 switches and 2 Moog-style pitch/mod wheels.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/nov_bsk.shtml


Posted by alanzo on Apr-17-2008 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Before the famous Novation BassStation Rack module came the small and portable BassStation Keyboard! Basically a 2-octave keyboard with a BassStation rack built-in. This synthesizer uses analog sound emulation to reproduce the sounds of a monophonic 2-VCO analog synthesizer with the same simple and intuitive controls via 17 knobs, 10 switches and 2 Moog-style pitch/mod wheels.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/nov_bsk.shtml


Hrmm... seems like there's a conflict in stats. Anyway, the synth sucks monkey fuck so who cares.


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-17-2008 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Bass Station is a VA.


Didn't we just have this discussion three days ago?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=


Posted by Subtle on Apr-17-2008 21:40:

Looks like a moog would be the most appropriate, anyone got any experience with the Moog Little Phatty?

It seems nice, and the cost is around 1/3 of a Moog Voyager.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-17-2008 21:48:

I've played around with the Little Phatty at music stores. Fun synth, dead simple to use and sounds great.


Posted by mysticalninja on Apr-19-2008 11:08:

Waldorf Pulse kicks ass fattest saw and square ive ever heard.. it doesn't have sine but it has triangle but it doesnt sound like a normal triangle its grimey as fuck.

Fuck I wish I knew how to use it in cubase though, anything I record has sevre midi delay.. So far i've just been recording straight to wave and chopping note by note basically. And I've had it for like 4 years -_- ....I have filled all 64 user patches up with originals though.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Apr-19-2008 13:13:

Is a Waldorf Pulse worth getting??


Posted by Chronosis on Apr-19-2008 13:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
Is a Waldorf Pulse worth getting??


If you need aggressive squarish sounds, then yes.


Posted by echosystm on Apr-19-2008 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
Is a Waldorf Pulse worth getting??


Pulse demo:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/ww...l%20Schleis.mp3

Korg Legacy demo:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/ww...l%20Schleis.mp3

Ask yourself honestly... do YOU think a Waldorf Pulse is worth getting?

I don't. It is always tempting to buy something to put in that rack space to look elite, but a cheap synth usually sounds no better (or is actually often worse) than software. Since Pulses have such a horrible interface, you will be doing most of your programming via a software editor anyway. You might as well just use a VST, in my oppinion. At least then you don't have to worry about recalling patches, latency, and so forth.

If I was to buy a cheap synth, it would be for its interface, so that I can learn the synth 100% and get basic sounds of out it fast. Synths that come to mind for this are the K-Station and MS2000R. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother with cheap shit, because there is a good chance that software synths will sound as good or better.

PS. This is why I don't own any hardware synths. When I have enough money to buy a Voyager or Virus TI, that will change. The wallet of a uni student is too tight.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Apr-19-2008 14:07:

Cool


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-19-2008 19:07:

Echo is right about the pulse, while editing can be done, it's is a pain on the real synth. Another problem can be the build quality - I've personally seen a lot of them break, and there is absolutely fack all you can do about unless you pay serious $$$$ to get it fixed.

The Korg ms2000r is a great synth, and really versatile for EDM, but itf you're just looking really for a bass synth, the moog (especially the voyager if you can afford it) is the best option it sounds so fat, the presets are amazing, programming it is a pleasure and most of the bugs are all gone now. It is really a classic synth and arguably one of the best ever made.

The SE1 is great for true bass sounds but very limited in it's scope. It is an option if you are just looking at a bass synth, but not worth the money when you compute how much more the voyager does (even at the extra price difference).


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