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Posted by Candeeman on Apr-18-2008 16:07:

Canada & Visible Minorities

Canada too accommodating to minorities, poll says

Most Canadians believe their country is too accommodating when it comes to the country's "visible minorities," according to a survey released Thursday.

The Strategic Counsel poll for The Globe and Mail and CTV, found that a hefty 61 percent of those asked thought Canada does too much for members of the visible or non-white minorities.

In mostly French-speaking Quebec province the figure soars to 72 percent, the survey found.

The study also showed a sharp difference between people's opinions on the question in urban and rural settings. While 55 percent of those in big cities thought concessions to minorities were too numerous, the percentage soars to 71 percent in communities with fewer than 30,000 people.

Members of Canada's "visible minorities" in 2006 topped five million or just over 16 percent of the population.

Almost 9 out of 10 people surveyed (88 percent) said their community was welcoming to these minorities, the survey found.


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Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-18-2008 16:36:

What a flawed study. I dont think people care about "visible" or not. Whether it's a european "white" person or an asian or whomever, canadians are sick of having people arrive in this country only to be told by the newcomers that they need to change this and that. I think adding "visible" to this study was designed to provoke a negative reaction to the outcome.

Canada is a country that speaks english and french that is not christian but was founded with christian traditions. The head of state is the queen and our flag is the maple leaf. If people cant accept this they are free to leave.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Apr-18-2008 16:56:

At least 80% of the injury claims I have on my desk are for people who have been in Canada less then five years and don't work. They just want to collect enough money so they can ship over another brother or sister.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-18-2008 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
At least 80% of the injury claims I have on my desk are for people who have been in Canada less then five years and don't work. They just want to collect enough money so they can ship over another brother or sister.


I recommend that you systematically slaughter these people


Maybe.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Apr-18-2008 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
At least 80% of the injury claims I have on my desk are for people who have been in Canada less then five years and don't work.


WOW. This statistic is alarming.

Question: What do people 'claim' if they do not work ???


Posted by Jungle Fever on Apr-18-2008 17:29:

It's one thing to be accepting and accommodating, it's another to change our nation completely to make others feel like they are at home. Conform to our nation's ways or go home. Many might not take this the right way. All I am saying is if a hard hat is required for your safety, I think it would be in your best interest to protect your head. I don't think a religious belief should trump that. The fact that we even contemplate the idea is absurd. Wear the damn head protection. Just one example and my 2 cents. Maybe they don't want to wear the protection because they want to collect some kind of disability... I don't know.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-18-2008 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Jungle Fever
It's one thing to be accepting and accommodating, it's another to change our nation completely to make others feel like they are at home. Conform to our nation's ways or go home.


i totally agree. i dont act like a chink. i act like a caker.
im more white than most of you.


Posted by jchung52 on Apr-18-2008 17:32:

without immigrants though, Canada would be a dying population


Posted by barbina on Apr-18-2008 17:35:

without immigration you wouldn't have me in your lives
or peter .. or a lot of TAs
but mainly me


Posted by barbina on Apr-18-2008 17:35:

.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Apr-18-2008 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
WOW. This statistic is alarming.

Question: What do people 'claim' if they do not work ???


For automobile claims you can claim one of the following weekly benefits.

a) Income Replacement Benefit - the policy will pay upto 80% of your net income or $400.00 per week.

b) Caregiver Benefit - the policy will pay $250.00 for the first child under 16 or over 16 with a disability and $50.00 for every additional kid. This is assuming you are unable to care for the little brats (although any legal rep. will claim this regardless of whether you can or not and then its upto the insurance company to prove they no longer require this assistance)

c) Non-earner Benefit - if you don't have kids and are not working then after 26 weeks you can claim non-earner benefit. This allows you to claim $185.00 per week if you are substantially unable to perform your normal activities of life.

Then on top of those benefits there are the following

a) Housekeeping - so if you cannot clean your house anymore you can claim $100.00 per week for someone else to clean your house....even if that someone else lives in the house you can still claim this. Once again any legal rep. will claim this whether you actually did any housekeeping prior to the accident. Even if you still can do it they will claim it until the insurance company proves you can't do the housekeeping.

b) Attendant Care - so if you can't wipe your own ass after an accident you can hire someone to do this for you. This is a harder one to get away with but there are good doctors out there that will say you can't do anything yourself.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-18-2008 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
without immigration you wouldn't have me in your lives
or peter .. or a lot of TAs
but mainly me


the article is about visible minorities... aka. COLOURED FOLK.
you dont qualify. sorry.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Apr-18-2008 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I recommend that you systematically slaughter these people


Maybe.


I was thinking of becoming an assassin for the insurance industry...could make tons of money killing off injured people.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Apr-18-2008 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
the article is about visible minorities... aka. COLOURED FOLK.
you dont qualify. sorry.


she is a visible minority....she is a woman.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-18-2008 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
she is a visible minority....she is a woman.


hahaha


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Apr-18-2008 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Jungle Fever
It's one thing to be accepting and accommodating, it's another to change our nation completely to make others feel like they are at home. Conform to our nation's ways or go home. Many might not take this the right way. All I am saying is if a hard hat is required for your safety, I think it would be in your best interest to protect your head. I don't think a religious belief should trump that. The fact that we even contemplate the idea is absurd. Wear the damn head protection. Just one example and my 2 cents. Maybe they don't want to wear the protection because they want to collect some kind of disability... I don't know.


1. youre an idiot (in my humble opinion)
2. what the fuck are you talking about?
3. what about invisible minorities??? (like ninjas)


Posted by Tordan on Apr-18-2008 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
I think adding "visible" to this study was designed to provoke a negative reaction to the outcome.

I totally agree with you on that.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Apr-18-2008 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
hahaha


that's actually true
sometimes they ask you to check the appropriate:

a. aboriginal people
b. women
c. people with disabilities

no kidding, done that before!


Posted by Jben on Apr-19-2008 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i totally agree. i dont act like a chink. i act like a caker.
im more white than most of you.


hahaha im the same way, im barely Jamaican anymore


Posted by Sasha on Apr-19-2008 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
without immigration you wouldn't have me in your lives
or peter .. or a lot of TAs
but mainly me


me and you baby


Posted by loca on Apr-19-2008 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Jungle Fever
It's one thing to be accepting and accommodating, it's another to change our nation completely to make others feel like they are at home. Conform to our nation's ways or go home. Many might not take this the right way. All I am saying is if a hard hat is required for your safety, I think it would be in your best interest to protect your head. I don't think a religious belief should trump that. The fact that we even contemplate the idea is absurd. Wear the damn head protection. Just one example and my 2 cents. Maybe they don't want to wear the protection because they want to collect some kind of disability... I don't know.


Agree 100%. I'm an immigrant myself but I do think the country is too accommodating in a lot of instances.


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-19-2008 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
without immigrants though, Canada would be a dying population

We have always had a lot of immigrants in Canada. We have not always had millions of fraudulent insurance and social benefits claims from recent immigrants.

Our attitude toward immigrants affects the kind of immigrants we get as well as their own attitudes upon entering the country. Not so long ago, we drove the point home that it was a privilege, not a right, to live here, and that they'd better quickly learn our customs and find an honest job if they wanted to stick around. Waaaay way back in time, believe it or not, we actually required most immigrants to have a substantial amount of money or fixed assets before allowing them to settle here. And we still had hundreds of thousands of immigrants coming in. Imagine that.

I'm not so sure that this is all about immigration, though. People seem to be conflating that concept with entirely domestic affirmative action policies. The results may surprise a lot of the folks in this little echo chamber, but out in the real world, a great many people despise the assholes who continue to insist that we still need those policies to counter some nebulous and totally invisible form of racism that's endemic to all white people and especially white males.

Do we really still need a "visible minority status" column on university applications where people get to identify themselves as black, hispanic, or "aboriginal"? It looks like about 61% of the country thinks we don't.


Posted by Orko on Apr-19-2008 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
1. youre an idiot (in my humble opinion)
2. what the fuck are you talking about?
3. what about invisible minorities??? (like ninjas)


You don't know what Jungle Fever is talking about, so you call him an idiot? JF was discussing a very recent and topical case where a Sikh man refused to wear a hard hat because it interfered with his right to wear his turban instead.

JF is completely right, and I think the case should have been thrown out. If you want to work in construction, and we have created a rule that you have to wear a hard hat, because it keeps your head safe, then everybody should have to do it. Don't want to wear a hard hat, then don't work that job.

Get a clue. Read a book.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Apr-19-2008 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i act like a caker.


*AHEM*
*cough*

I prefer mangiacake. Thank you.


Posted by chinamon on Apr-19-2008 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
*AHEM*
*cough*

I prefer mangiacake. Thank you.


lol.
or as a caker would say it, mungie cake.


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