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I Was Wondering What Type Of Media Reproduces The Highest Quality Sound. So What Type Of Media Do DJs Use? These Are The Options:
1)Vinyl
2)CD
3)MiniDisc
4)Mp3
In My Opinion 3 And 4 Are Out. Offcoarse MP3 Could Maybe Compete If Encoded To 320kbps. So We're Left Down To Vinyl And CDs. Some People Insist That CDs Produce High Quality Sound Than Vinyl But Others Say The Oposite, What Do You Guys Think?
hmm, thats a tough question... mainly its between CD's and Vinyls, since usually an MP3 is ripped from one of these types of media, u cant expect it to be better than the original. If a studio were to record a track onto a minidisc then it would be the same as them recording to a CD. Studio's sample at the one above 192kb/sec (cant remember what that is, not at home 
) i think, but if its ripped straight from the studio (As in the artist records it) then it will sound better than a copy.
However whether vinyl or cd is better is debateable, i said something about it in a thread called CDJ. 
vinyl is the best. it's analogue so there is no approximation, it's precision is limited only be the quality of the record, the stylus and the turntable.
CD is next best, it has a pretty good frequency range, most people can't hear any lower or higher. the sample rate for CD is 44,100khz or 44 thousand times a second the sound is sampled.
that's pretty good, but not as good as vinyl.
MP3 and Minidisc are a distant 3rd and fourth. they use compression, which throws out some stuff to make the file smaller. it's stuff we mostly can't hear, but still, it isn't perfect. different compression rates make a difference, but, it's all compressed from something, therefore, of less quality than the source.
a small note, sometimes a CD can sound BETTER, because a CD never degrades. and when it's silent, it's SILENT, unlike a record which will always have some amount of noise from the needle on the groove.
so, CDs can sound nice and crisp, but they don't have the booming bass, and intricate frequency deviations possible on a record.
I keep stumbling upon the same BULLSHIT (no offence)
look it all depend on how you define quality. I like the sound of vinyl better personally. However a CD can produce both higher and lower frequencies than vinyl (FACT not my opinion period)
and actually above all of these is tape. well...at least for the first listen. on a very expensive machine.
but after that first time.........
2 inch tape is indeed quite popular
.....and DAT tape
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| Originally posted by Pjotr G I keep stumbling upon the same BULLSHIT (no offence) look it all depend on how you define quality. I like the sound of vinyl better personally. However a CD can produce both higher and lower frequencies than vinyl (FACT not my opinion period) |
pfff it's quite a story and I've told it on these forums before so I'm not gonna do it all again.
Anyways, what you lot say about music on CD NOT being one continuous sound wave flow, but many many very tiny bits of sound "snapshots"...that's true. But how the hell do you think vinyl works? It's also little bumps that the needle stubles across, and, I may add, that the resolution of "bumps" on CD is bigger than that on vinyl.
The vinyl groove does NOT represent the actual waveform as you can see it on for example a wave editor. If you would put for instance a sine like that on vinyl you would hear NOTHING ('cept for crackle)
So if you diss CD's for that "staircasing" as someone called it....you will have to flush vinyl down the toilet for much heavier "staircasing"
PS I like vinyl over CD myself. Not for frequency range reasons tho.
This is a never-ending debate.
The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone 
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| Originally posted by Eugene The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone |
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| Originally posted by Eugene This is a never-ending debate. |
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| Originally posted by Eugene The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone |
i asked you why you did that before p'zazz..
strange, i always envisioned you talking in jerking language, like captain kirk.
Please, Save, The, Ship!
but anyway.. thanks for explaining pjotr.
you seem a little tense though.. maybe you should visit the oral sex thread in the chill out room.
Actually my english is quite good, not perfect but good. As for the capital letter thing, I just got used to it and it became a bad habit. Now that I'm writting this I still get some words with capital letters without even thinking about it and I have to go back and correct it so u guys wont bitch about it
It really doesn't matter
Between vinyl and CD there isn't going to be much of a difference with Trance music because, for the most part, trance music comes from synths which use a 44.1k 16 bit signal or sample (sample playback synths) so CD should sound just as good and vinyl. Sometimes though, vinyl just sounds so much better. When I listened to my Gouryella - Gouryella vinyl for the first time I was amazed at how damn good the song sounded compared to CD.
Most (digital
) DJ mixers process sound at 16/44, so no matter how high the quality is of the CD/Vinyl/any thing else, it will be lowered back to 16/44 once it goes threw the mixer. But of course there are some mixers that have a higher processing rate, like 24/96, but they're generally expensive, and not meant for DJing as much as for studio work.
isn't that only for DIGITAL mixers though?
i thought most DJ mixers were analog?
hmm. I guess your right. but mixers still have a huge role in processing the signal and can butcher it badly.. for example my SK5 mixer just wrecks the sound. sometimes it's hard to tell, but I ran my synth through it, and right away I could hear the quality loss. thats one major reason I had to upgrade from it
I dont seem 2 notice quality difference after the 192 point
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| Originally posted by DJ Chrono hmm. I guess your right. but mixers still have a huge role in processing the signal and can butcher it badly.. for example my SK5 mixer just wrecks the sound. sometimes it's hard to tell, but I ran my synth through it, and right away I could hear the quality loss. thats one major reason I had to upgrade from it |
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| Originally posted by JohnSmith yeah.. that's why i am getting the vestax PCV275. i hear it is one of the best sounding mixers out there. |
*high five*
Re: It really doesn't matter
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Sometimes though, vinyl just sounds so much better. When I listened to my Gouryella - Gouryella vinyl for the first time I was amazed at how damn good the song sounded compared to CD. |
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