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Posted by Saint John on Apr-20-2008 21:09:

Making the switch from vinyl to CD.

So i'm making the switch from vinyl to CD's. Well I wouldn't call it a switch but I just got CD players at home, so I'm going to start to burn all my tracks onto CDs, and well I'm guessing this is going to take a crazy amount of time. Do you guys have any tips or anything for this. Sory if this isnt worth a thread of its own.


Posted by Owsey on Apr-20-2008 21:13:

It'll take time but i think its well worth it...


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-20-2008 21:44:

When I did this, rather than just ripping EVERYTHING, I just picked the stuff I felt I was likely to want to play out in the near future, as I never had (and still don't have) any plans to sell my vinyl. I'm gonna hang onto it (as well as my decks), so it's still there for mixing at home, I just saved myself the effort of ripping stuff I wasn't going to need on CD.

Then there's just the obvious stuff like making sure you're using decent needles, making sure the pitch slider's on 0, not having any other programs open when you're recording, checking all of your levels first to make sure it's not going to clip when you record - I personally record peaking at about -6dB as it gives enough headroom for the odd unexpected louder section etc, then normalise up to 0dB peak after it's recorded.

Then try and keep them reasonably well-organised on your computer (name all of the tracks systematically etc - makes it a lot easier if you then want to rip them all to MP3 and get something like The Godfather to do the ID3 tags).

Assuming you're recording onto a computer here obviously


Posted by Saint John on Apr-21-2008 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
When I did this, rather than just ripping EVERYTHING, I just picked the stuff I felt I was likely to want to play out in the near future, as I never had (and still don't have) any plans to sell my vinyl. I'm gonna hang onto it (as well as my decks), so it's still there for mixing at home, I just saved myself the effort of ripping stuff I wasn't going to need on CD.

Then there's just the obvious stuff like making sure you're using decent needles, making sure the pitch slider's on 0, not having any other programs open when you're recording, checking all of your levels first to make sure it's not going to clip when you record - I personally record peaking at about -6dB as it gives enough headroom for the odd unexpected louder section etc, then normalise up to 0dB peak after it's recorded.

Then try and keep them reasonably well-organised on your computer (name all of the tracks systematically etc - makes it a lot easier if you then want to rip them all to MP3 and get something like The Godfather to do the ID3 tags).

Assuming you're recording onto a computer here obviously
hmm I'm keeping all my records, and still spinning them. I'm just adding CD players to the setup. So im ganna be spining vinyl and and CD's. I have like 6000 songs on my computer, and yeah my questions was any tips on organizing them, go through them and choosing the ones i want to burn, and then actually burning them,


Posted by adx on Apr-21-2008 04:54:

Keep known tracks on the same disc. Most arent going to take the time and write the tracklisting on the disc (I dont.. I number them). I make double copies of every disc, and save each disc on my comp.

ALWAYS use a program that will burn CD Text. Without it, you wont have a clue what song is what (unless you know all your tracks inside n out). Burn at a medium speed and use high quality discs. 320kbs files of course.


Posted by Saint John on Apr-21-2008 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by adx
Keep known tracks on the same disc. Most arent going to take the time and write the tracklisting on the disc (I dont.. I number them). I make double copies of every disc, and save each disc on my comp.

ALWAYS use a program that will burn CD Text. Without it, you wont have a clue what song is what (unless you know all your tracks inside n out). Burn at a medium speed and use high quality discs. 320kbs files of course.
what program does do the text? which ones dont?


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-21-2008 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by CSB
hmm I'm keeping all my records, and still spinning them. I'm just adding CD players to the setup. So im ganna be spining vinyl and and CD's. I have like 6000 songs on my computer, and yeah my questions was any tips on organizing them, go through them and choosing the ones i want to burn, and then actually burning them,

So are you just going to be burning your new tunes to CD and keep playing older stuff of vinyl, or are you planning to go through your collection burning all your older stuff as well?

If you're just talking about burning your new stuff, check out The Ultimate "How Do You Organize Your..." Thread for the pros and cons of burning one release per CD vs burning 9 or 10 tracks per CD, whether it's easier to arrange your CDs alphabetically, chronologically or by genre and so on.


Posted by skip on Apr-21-2008 11:12:

just get serato/traktor scratch/torq and save a lot of trouble.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-21-2008 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by adx
Keep known tracks on the same disc. Most arent going to take the time and write the tracklisting on the disc (I dont.. I number them). I make double copies of every disc, and save each disc on my comp.

ALWAYS use a program that will burn CD Text. Without it, you wont have a clue what song is what (unless you know all your tracks inside n out). Burn at a medium speed and use high quality discs. 320kbs files of course.

thats how easy it is nowadays.. no need to buy rare vinyls for $50.00


Posted by sleepydragon on Apr-21-2008 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by adx

ALWAYS use a program that will burn CD Text. Without it, you wont have a clue what song is what (unless you know all your tracks inside n out). Burn at a medium speed and use high quality discs. 320kbs files of course.


why? when you label the cd just put the number next to it. I dont use cd text i bet a lot dont


Posted by adx on Apr-22-2008 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
thats how easy it is nowadays.. no need to buy rare vinyls for $50.00


Yea - in terms of music storage and cataloguing. I still mix the conventional way (2 CDJ1000s and a mixer).

I use CD text to identify songs when Im spinning at parties. A few cocktails later tends to make the mind wander, easily forgetting what track is what. I solely number the disc. I do not create labels or tracklisting on the disc itself (lazy I guess).

Some use it, some dont. It has made it easier for me to memorize where my tracks are.


Posted by the_gamemaster on Apr-22-2008 19:58:

If you're going to keep the vinyls, then why not just download the tracks off limewire or something? Although this is technically illegal, no one can tell and its going to save you loads of time and i dont think there's anything morally wrong with it. Unless you have to have the 'vinyl sound' of course.


Posted by Ultraphu on Apr-22-2008 20:51:

i burn brand new cds of just the tunes i want to play for the night i'm booked. of course i have the prior nights cds still in the booklet in case i need to play longer than scheduled, and i usually end up burning more tunes than i need for the night. i've never had a problem this way.


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-24-2008 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
If you're going to keep the vinyls, then why not just download the tracks off limewire or something? Although this is technically illegal, no one can tell and its going to save you loads of time and i dont think there's anything morally wrong with it. Unless you have to have the 'vinyl sound' of course.

Because they'll sound shit.

I started doing this (although not with Limewire cos it's even worse than most others) for a few tunes I had on vinyl to save ripping them, but regretted it when I found about 12 out of the 20 I downloaded had glitches in them, so just went back to ripping them myself anyway.

There are a couple of dodgy Russian MP3 download sites with quite reasonable copies of just about everything for next to nothing (I think one of them wanted about $0.15 per track)... they're technically legal due to Russian laws, although the artists don't get any money out of them so morally they're not really any better than piracy - but you might decide they're acceptable for obtaining backups of tracks you already own on vinyl. Of course then there's the issue of whether you trust them with your card details...


Posted by the_gamemaster on Apr-24-2008 13:47:

Ive downloaded a few and they've all been fine, I suppose it depends on how popular the track is and what genre/label it is - my collection is mostly uplifting and progressive trance from big labels so im probably more likely to find good quality mp3s.

Some tips though - always choose ones with larger file sizes - around 15-20Mb, as they are more likely to be 320's, and dont type the full name into the search, then you know the results with only the words you typed in are adware/not the track you want.


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-24-2008 13:54:

I think I'll stick to avoiding it in general thanks


Posted by skip on Apr-24-2008 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Because they'll sound shit.

I started doing this (although not with Limewire cos it's even worse than most others) for a few tunes I had on vinyl to save ripping them, but regretted it when I found about 12 out of the 20 I downloaded had glitches in them, so just went back to ripping them myself anyway.

There are a couple of dodgy Russian MP3 download sites with quite reasonable copies of just about everything for next to nothing (I think one of them wanted about $0.15 per track)... they're technically legal due to Russian laws, although the artists don't get any money out of them so morally they're not really any better than piracy - but you might decide they're acceptable for obtaining backups of tracks you already own on vinyl. Of course then there's the issue of whether you trust them with your card details...


i'm not sure about this, but i think those russian sites get the stuff they sell from p2p anyway, so the quality won't be any better.


Posted by adx on Apr-25-2008 02:47:

I wanted this one track that I couldnt find anywhere else but on one of those Russian sites. I kept telling myself no because "it seemed too good to be true".. until one day:

I went to Walmart and bought a $10 pre-paid Visa. Loaded it on that site (they have a $10 min for credits). Picked the jam I wanted, and downloaded away. Ran it through Norton, and played it. Success! It was a great track. Started and ended with a few seconds. Def was 320k, as claimed.

So I go back to that site, nearly a year later (figuring I paid $10 for this song so.. oh well) and my credits are still there.. all $9.74 of it! lol



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