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-- 2 questions to vinyl users!
2 questions to vinyl users!
Q1
I used to clean my SSL records by rinsing them with warm water from an ordinary tap in my bathroom and letting them dry without wiping them (didn't want to have the fibers and other particles left). Is that a suitable method for keeping ordinary vinyl clean or should I buy that stupid "special cleaning liquid" e.g. Stanton VC-1?
Q2
I want to record archive copies of my vinyl on my PC by simply connecting my turntable to my Audiofire2 sound card (24bit/96Khz). I have only the Stanton Trackmaster 2 SK MP4 (spherical) needles. Should I buy a dedicated elliptical needle (e.g. expensive Ortofon Concord Arkiv) for recording or is the difference between the sound of my needle and this needle insignificant? In other words, is my needle ok for making hi-q digital copies of my vinyl?
Thanks
use a dry swiffer pad to clean vinyl, that is, to remove dust/debris and will also remove any static charges. Use lighter fluid to clean oily finger prints, alcohol spills, whatever.
Elliptical needles are better for recording, but my Whitelabels that have spherical needles sound really good and could be used, its best to get the ellipticals if u want the best sound quality. I have another cart that is for audiophiles, and has an elliptical needle. That is what I use to record vinyl.
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY use a dry swiffer pad to clean vinyl, that is, to remove dust/debris and will also remove any static charges. Use lighter fluid to clean oily finger prints, alcohol spills, whatever. |
i'm kinda in the same boat as you. i actually got a turntable because i wanted to use it to transfer vinyl to my computer. i went and bought good stuff so i wouldn't lose too much sound quality, but would still keep the prices reasonable.
i got a technics sl1210 mk5
grado dj200i cartridge
then i use my xone:92 for preamping the signal. from there it goes balanced to my alesis io|2 sound card. i record and save as wav.
and yes, the cartridge makes a huge difference in the sound you get from your vinyl (the most i'd say). i ended up with the grado dj200i after this cartridge comparison one guy did on a finnish forum. the grado was by far the best sounding needle he had ever used.
the turntable you use will also affect the sound. the guy who did the needle test tested the grado on technics and some stanton (i think) and the sound sample from the technics TT sounded better (can't remember how much though).
also having a good preamp is important. dunno if your sound card has one and if it does is it any good.
as for cleaning, i recommend you get a vacuum cleaner if you really want the shit that causes crackles and surface noise out, the stuff that's not visible, but deep inside the grooves. i'm gonna buy a vacuum cleaner in the future and i'll report back on how it works. but from what i've read, it is the best way the clean your vinyl. most vacuum cleaners are expensive as fuck though. i'm most likely gonna get the kab ev-1 http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm
normal carbon fiber brush will only get rid of most of the visible stuff. using cleaning products that you leave on the record aren't gonna get the dirt off, they'll just move it around (might bring particles to the surface or might not) or dilute it (the grease from the fingerprints won't evaporate with the lighter fluid or whatever you use, but just spread it more evenly on the record so it's not visible anymore). also fluids that you leave on the record to dry will leave every compound in them that won't evaporate on the record. everything that's dissolved in tap water (quite a lot of stuff), detergents etc. depending on what you use to clean your records. that's why i personally think that a vacuum cleaner really is superior to other cleaning methods. 
I used to swear by Gruv Glide. One great thing is that it keeps your vinyl static free so you aren't sucking up all the dust in the room when you spin your records.
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| Originally posted by blacknoizybox what happens if I use warm water? |
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| Originally posted by skip i'm most likely gonna get the kab ev-1 http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm |
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| Originally posted by blacknoizybox looks gay i think I'll stick to warm water, maybe distiled water and a little dish-washing liquid like Fairy, neh?.. |
what about Stanton VC-1. anyone tried it?
whatever happened to good ol record brushes?
removes static AND dust
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| Originally posted by Tony Morello whatever happened to good ol record brushes? removes static AND dust |
then you use lighter fluid
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| Originally posted by Tony Morello then you use lighter fluid |
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY newbs are so hard headed, just let them put all kinds of weird shit on their vinyl. Fairy, whatever that is and tap water makes no sense where this came from. |
Gruv Glide and record brushes are all you will ever need. Lighter fluid too, but if you Gruv Glide your records and keep them clean with a brush it won't get to that point.
detergents leave behind a residue that is probably more harmful than the fingerprint
KISS - keep it simple stupid
you know that whole occam's razor thing, the simplest solution is the best, it really does apply in this case
it's a simple technology, use simple means to maintain it
hell, half the time i don't even bother with the brush, i just grab the bottom of my t-shirt and give it a wipe
I think I'll just get a carbon-fiber record brush from Stanton for a start.
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