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Way to go, Mexico...*golf clap*

This poor woman. Our government better do something...like, right fucking now.

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Canadian Brenda Martin Found Guilty By Mexican Judge Tuesday April 22, 2008 CityNews.ca Staff Brenda Martin made headlines months ago when it was discovered she had been held in a Mexican jail for more than two years without facing trial. Martin, formerly of Trenton, Ont., finally went to trial Tuesday and was found guilty of fraud. She and her former boss and maintained her innocence, saying that is was only the employer who knew about the Internet scam. The Canadian woman was given a five-year sentence and fined 35,800 pesos (roughly $3400 CDN). The news has worried her supporters: Martin has been under suicide watch at the prison.

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS This poor woman. Our government better do something...like, right fucking now.

Does anyone know the details of the case? I've seen her plea on TV couple of times, but no real hard facts

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Originally posted by Yohan Does anyone know the details of the case? I've seen her plea on TV couple of times, but no real hard facts

Well that is part of the problem. From my understanding, there wasn't much of a case, and it could have been down to Mexican incompetence+corruption. Mexico was just happy letting her sit there and rot, until the government got involved.

It's funny because it actually took Paul Martin's involvement to trigger Harper to do anything. Until PM PM started to get interested and fight for Brenda, Harper washed his hands. Then all of a sudden, it became a big deal and the Fed got involved.

Looks like diplomacy failed in this case. But being convicted and having the world know your story *might* be better than sitting in a jail, in a foreign country without charge.

That is so heartbreaking. So sad.

She will commit suicide soon unfortunately. I listened to her on CBC Radio about 2 months ago when her friend happened to have her on the other line during the radio call. My heart goes out to her. Her trial was unfair, and took her in because they didn't get the big fish.

The Mexican justice system places the onus on the accused to prove his or her innocence -- rather than on the prosecution to prove the guilt of the accused.

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Originally posted by Yohan Does anyone know the details of the case? I've seen her plea on TV couple of times, but no real hard facts

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Brenda�s Story Brenda Martin is a Canadian woman who has been imprisoned in a Mexican jail since February 2006. Brenda�s family have been desperately attempting to raise awareness of her plight, calling on the Canadian Government to ensure that she receives a fair trial. Brenda was the chef for Alyn Richard Waage, owner of an investment company that turned out to be fraudulent. Waage fired Brenda as his chef in 2001 with severance pay, where she than invested the money into Waage�s business which she thought was legitimate. One month later Waage was arrest for fraud and is currently serving a 10 year sentence in North Carolina. Brenda was picked up by Mexican authorities years later for allegedly being involved in the scheme. Although she was charged with being a member of a criminal organization and money laundering, there has never been a trial where she has been able to present her defence and she is not aware of any evidence being presented to prove her guilty of those charges.

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Canadian woman works as chef, gets fired with severance and invests that money in what turned out to be her former boss's shell company.

He was arrested and convicted of fraud, he denies Brenda having any knowledge of the fraud.

She is arrested and held without due process - or access to basic human nessesities for two years.




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mexico is such a fucked up country... one reason why i refuse to vacation there.

I suspect there is more than meets the eye with this.

i do understand her being upset for not having a trial.

but they can't prove that she didn't know she was invloved in fraud. just because her former boss said she wasn't involved. i mean, he is already serving his sentence, what difference does it make to him to lie.

the woman is in bad shape tho. i heard her on CBC and she is quite sad.

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Originally posted by activate mexico is such a fucked up country... one reason why i refuse to vacation there.

I just plain hate Mexicans.

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Originally posted by jennypie I just plain hate Mexicans.

because they made that stupid Family Feud PC game!

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Originally posted by Yohan because they made that stupid Family Feud PC game!

LOL

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I suspect there is more than meets the eye with this.

It doesn't matter if she IS guilty, a Canadian citizen is being held in a squallid, foreign jail without charge or due process of any kind, and our government is effectively doing nothing.

There, but for the grace of God...

The government cannot intervene in mexican law just as mexico cannot intervene in canadian law. It sounds like its a sad case and it sounds like the mexican justice system is a joke. That said, mexico is a sovereign country just like canada is which means she is at the mercy of their system. Tourists need to understand that once they leave canada, they leave canada's justice system.

Imagine if the situation were reversed? How many canadians would be outraged that mexico even dare suggest interfering with our due process?

I hope the best for this poor woman but sadly i dont think much more can be done for her other than asking for a penal transfer to canadian prison.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I suspect there is more than meets the eye with this.

yup, i have a feeling shes guilty of something

Oh come on, the woman draws her eyebrows on. Can't be trusted, imo.

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Originally posted by Pett yup, i have a feeling shes guilty of something

i hate to always come off as an asshole cuz im reallly not... but i think shes guilty too lol.. who the fuck invests in her bosses business.. without knowing him well enough to figure out he is shady lol. come on ppl you cant feel sorry for this broad

did this HAPPEN in mexico... like ... the actual act of investing in this dudes scam.. cuz if it did.. then she deserves to be in a mexican prison no matter if shes canadian or not... just like if your in taiwan and certain people find you with weed your going straight to jail and the canadian government wont do shit... bottom line.. dont break laws in other countries if you dont know the consequences

OH i also saw.. if you would lik to donate to help pay brenda's legal fees click here.... ummmmm is it just me or did this woman just get out of an 8 million$ SCAM lol you would think they had some put away or buried just in case they got caught? lol

i feel sorry for her whether shes guilty or not. Because even is shes guilty she does deserve proper due process.

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Originally posted by jonnystel i hate to always come off as an asshole cuz im reallly not... but i think shes guilty too lol.. who the fuck invests in her bosses business.. without knowing him well enough to figure out he is shady lol. come on ppl you cant feel sorry for this broad did this HAPPEN in mexico... like ... the actual act of investing in this dudes scam.. cuz if it did.. then she deserves to be in a mexican prison no matter if shes canadian or not... just like if your in taiwan and certain people find you with weed your going straight to jail and the canadian government wont do shit... bottom line.. dont break laws in other countries if you dont know the consequences OH i also saw.. if you would lik to donate to help pay brenda's legal fees click here.... ummmmm is it just me or did this woman just get out of an 8 million$ SCAM lol you would think they had some put away or buried just in case they got caught? lol

The guy was a con man, and she worked for him as a chef. I think there is reasonable doubt as to whether she knew it was a scam. Remember he bilked people out of millions of dollars, which means he was good at what he did, so to convince one more person (especially somebody who was not involved with financing) would not be that hard.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess i do understand her being upset for not having a trial. but they can't prove that she didn't know she was invloved in fraud. just because her former boss said she wasn't involved. i mean, he is already serving his sentence, what difference does it make to him to lie. the woman is in bad shape tho. i heard her on CBC and she is quite sad.

She's been threatening suicide since this whole thing began.

The lady doth protest too much. IMO

She'll be released soon enough.

Once she gets transfered to a Canadian Prison she'll be let go in a due time.