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Next stop on Yonge line . . . 'Home Depot'?
several people, myself included, have been suggesting this for some time now.
If the various levels of gov't can't/won't fund our woefully inadequate public transit system, then let's get the private sector involved! (so long as it's 'naming rights' alone, along with retail space, etc. and no 'control' over the stations/service/etc).
I think this is a great idea...though retaining certain stops, named for historical reasons, is fine too. But do we care if it's "College", "Dundas" or "Home Depot", "Rogers"? no!
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/417766
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Next stop on Yonge line . . . 'Home Depot'? TTC studies feasibility of naming subway stations after major corporations to raise operating funds Apr 24, 2008 04:30 AM Tess Kalinowski Transportation Reporter McDonald's station? Pepsi subway? The TTC has agreed to study the feasibility of selling corporate naming rights to subway stations as a way to raise money. The controversial request for a study of practices in other cities came from commissioner Peter Milczyn, who cited an ad from the Middle East city of Dubai inviting corporations to "Turn your brand into a destination" by buying rights to two new transit lines and 23 stations being built there. "If one of the wealthiest jurisdictions in the world is looking at doing this, we should at least look at it," he said. Saying "beggers can't be choosers," Milczyn noted the TTC is embarking on an ambitious expansion while struggling to raise operating funds. But TTC vice-chair Joe Mihevc called the study a waste of time and said the idea will probably die a quick death when it comes back to the commission later this year. "It is absolutely outrageous to be corporatizing our important public spaces," he said. "The question Torontonians need to ask themselves is: Do we want Wal-Mart station? Do we want McDonald's station? Do we want Canadian Tire, Home Depot station? I don't think Torontonians want to go there." Mihevc raised the issue of renaming some stations six or seven years ago because he believes Dupont station should be renamed for Casa Loma, the city's third-largest tourist draw. "That's not corporatizing the name. That is making sure the landmark of Casa Loma is linked to the appropriate station because it is helpful to tourists," he said. TTC chair Adam Giambrone said he's against selling station names and prefers the kind of public-philanthropic partnership, through the Toronto Community Foundation, that paid for redesigning Museum station in a theme reflecting the ROM's collections. He said the city's 50-year-old policy of naming stations for intersecting streets is appropriate and clear. Advertising on the transit system brings in $15 million to $20 million a year. TTC also accepted a donation of $85,000 from Capital One this year to offer free service on New Year's Eve. |
They should sell the entire station to companies. Privatize the stations, let the profits pay for improvements.
Re: Next stop on Yonge line . . . 'Home Depot'?
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| Originally posted by MarkT several people, myself included, have been suggesting this for some time now. If the various levels of gov't can't/won't fund our woefully inadequate public transit system, then let's get the private sector involved! (so long as it's 'naming rights' alone, along with retail space, etc. and no 'control' over the stations/service/etc). I think this is a great idea...though retaining certain stops, named for historical reasons, is fine too. But do we care if it's "College", "Dundas" or "Home Depot", "Rogers"? no! http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/417766 |
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| "beggers can't be choosers," |
next stop .. The Guvernment station ..
I don't mind the corpratization/privitization of stations, but I think naming the stations after streets or landmarks is necessary. The station name should have some context to its location.
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| Originally posted by TO guy I don't mind the corpratization/privitization of stations, but I think naming the stations after streets or landmarks is necessary. The station name should have some context to its location. |
None of you see a problem with the privatization of public spaces?
Whats next? The park around the corner will turn into the "Pepsi Max Parkette" ??
I think this sets a dangerous precedent.
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| Originally posted by Dave Akermanis I think this sets a dangerous precedent. |
I'm willing to let the TTC do whatever it wants provided that it doesn't cost me (someone who neither lives in Toronto or uses the TTC) money. If selling naming right will allow the TTC to keep running and possibly expanding without me paying for it then I'm cool with it.
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm willing to let the TTC do whatever it wants provided that it doesn't cost me (someone who neither lives in Toronto or uses the TTC) money. If selling naming right will allow the TTC to keep running and possibly expanding without me paying for it then I'm cool with it. |
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| Originally posted by TO guy I don't mind the corpratization/privitization of stations, but I think naming the stations after streets or landmarks is necessary. The station name should have some context to its location. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard So like; "Pepsico presents Lansdown Station" would be alright? |
hilarious .. i can almost see this being like a game of Monopoly for companies .. Landsdowne and Kennedy station being at the low end..
"The next stop brought to you by TG Faust Inc., one of the world's leading suppliers of Teflon Body Armor presents: Kennedy station."
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL hilarious .. i can almost see this being like a game of Monopoly for companies .. Landsdowne and Kennedy station being at the low end.. "The next stop brought to you by TG Faust Inc., one of the world's leading suppliers of Teflon Body Armor presents: Kennedy station." |
The Scotia Bank Theatre... The Rogers Center... The Ted Rogers School of Management...
Im tired of this game.
However from a financial perspective it makes too much sense.
I would be angry if they changed the name of current stations, but if this helped fund the expansion of the subway lines, then lets do it... Next stop Wal-Mart Station.... GIVE ME A SQUIGGLEY
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| Originally posted by TO guy I'd be cool with that. Who in their right mind would want to be associated with Landsdown Station? |
Next Stop, Durex Sheik Condoms Station!
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| Originally posted by Orko Exactly what I was thinking! The current stations must retain some label that describes its geographic location. |
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| Originally posted by Dave Akermanis Next Stop, Durex Sheik Condoms Station! |
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| Originally posted by Intangible A station where you will never be late |
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| Originally posted by exstasie +1 I'll chip in $35.32 for a TA Station... Which one do you guys want? |
By all means paint the entire station in your company logo and colours, slather ads all over the walls, sell ad space on the side of trains (like they do with streetcars)and have the TTC personell wear SONY jerseys, but don't screw with the names of the stations.
Pepsi's Bloor/Yonge or Greenwood by Acura is fine, but I agree the names need to have some geographical context.
I for one am looking forward to "Subway" Station 
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| Originally posted by activate I for one am looking forward to "Subway" Station |
I share the feeling that it would be "nice" or "beneficial" to retain location/historical names...but...we have to operate in reality as it exists.
Given that:
- gov't won't/can't pony up more money
- patrons don't want fare increases or service cutbacks
- we don't want income or property tax increases
- everyone wants expansion (airport RT route, subway to York U, and 24 hour subway service would be nice too)
Private money could go a *long* way to fix the current mess.
It's not like they have to sell out the entire system all at once. Have a trial run with a few stations.
The Sheppard line is hardly nostalgic at all, right? Well, Bessarion (sp?) is about 100m or so from IKEA. Why not examine some way to link those two entities? Would anyone be offended or upset if that became "IKEA Station"? Where you could actually buy shit there and link directly to the subway line? It's a huge win for IKEA, the TTC and the public.
There is room to be creative too...it doesn't JUST have to be big, evil corporations like Rogers, Bell, etc. who are involved. UofT and Ryerson sure seem to have some spare change these days. Ryerson is expanding at a ridiculous clip (even contemplating tearing down and rebuilding Kerr Hall). They are relocating their student centre to the old Sam's location and are really building up that area. So why not "Ryerson Station" instead of Dundas station? Expansion up to York means getting York, the students and surrounding businesses involved.
Paint an entire car in logos...Toronto Maple Leafs line/car/station/whatever.
The bottom line is that we need to get creative here instead of just crying about the status quo.
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