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Posted by Zombie0729 on Apr-25-2008 02:51:

Hybrid - Finished Symphony

hey do you guys think the deadmau5 re---

just kidding

i contacted hybrids management trying to find out if the strings section is a piece of the classical piece 'Unifnished Symphony' or if in fact the track is original?

i'm basically just wondering if hybrid replayed the strings from an older piece of music -- classical heads help!

thx

A


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-25-2008 05:05:

Someone say deadmau5?


Posted by Rinster on Apr-25-2008 05:49:

Hybr!d - Fini5hed 5ymphony


Posted by DRM on Apr-25-2008 10:29:

As far as im aware they are original, i haven't seen any credits given for anything else


Posted by whiskers on Apr-27-2008 20:19:

Re: Hybrid - Finished Symphony

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
hey do you guys think the deadmau5 re---



Well, motherf... OH. I see what you did there.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-27-2008 20:26:

Discogs says it was scored by Sacha Puttnam, so I am assuming it's original...

The performance is certainly original; Hybrid commissioned the Russian Federal Orchestra to record the string parts.

There are lots of "unfinished symphonies" in classical music, so you'll have to specify which one you're talking about. Schubert's is the most famous.


Posted by TranceArmstrong on Apr-27-2008 21:05:

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Posted by adx on Apr-28-2008 07:58:

I own a bit of Hybrid. I was getting ready to do a 30min tribute mix to Hybrid (DJP forum), as a matter of fact. I have always been curious if that section is original or ripped/looped off a classical score.

The track is original! Its super rare promo they released in 96 (it was double sided with another song). In 97, there were 4 remixes of it on another rare promo (one or two of them were theirs). I read somewhere that some time later, the duo felt the track was lacking some more elements to complete the track (in a sense of further fullness or edgier sound), so in 99, with their debut release of Wide Angle, they finished Symphony and named it.. Finished Symphony.

Fantastic track and producers.


Posted by chalooby on Apr-28-2008 10:51:

Someone mentioned where the original came from on Discogs, the first part of track 1 of this http://www.discogs.com/release/898934 - Symphony No.3 which is why the original track was called "Symphony" I guess. I'm not sure it was ever officially credited but Hybrid blatantly borrowed and rearranged it, I prefer their arrangment of it too.

The Symphony vinyl got a repress in 2000 and got sold as an mp3 so its not quite so rare now, hopefully Distinct'ive will reissue it as digital/cd as its a fantastic track.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-28-2008 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by chalooby
Someone mentioned where the original came from on Discogs, the first part of track 1 of this http://www.discogs.com/release/898934 - Symphony No.3 which is why the original track was called "Symphony" I guess. I'm not sure it was ever officially credited but Hybrid blatantly borrowed and rearranged it, I prefer their arrangment of it too.

Hmm, the two do sound kind of similar, actually.

"Finished Symphony" doesn't even come close to Gorecki's original, though.


Posted by Arraias on Apr-28-2008 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
As far as im aware they are original, i haven't seen any credits given for anything else


+ 1


Posted by adx on Apr-28-2008 14:56:

I think without asking the duo, we might never know. It does sound alike to Gorecki. Which my belief of it being ripped/looped of an original might be true. Although everywhere I have ever read, claims its an original, which may be inspired by Symphony's that sound similiar.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-28-2008 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by adx
I think without asking the duo, we might never know. It does sound alike to Gorecki. Which my belief of it being ripped/looped of an original might be true.

It's definitely not ripped; Hybrid hired a Russian orchestra to perform the string parts.

It might well have been inspired by Gorecki, though; and you don't have to credit anyone for simple inspiration.



Gorecki's symphony itself is actually based around some folk melodies that he discovered, and a huge portion of classical music was composed by starting out with a popular folk song (basically the "pop music" of the day) and then elaborating on it. Bach would often start a composition by sitting down at the keyboard, playing a piece that someone else had written, and then writing elaborations or transformations of it.

A lot of the original folk songs have been forgotten, but today we remember the "classical" pieces because of the complex and interesting ways that composers elaborated on the original melodies.

Lots of great music can be made this way, and the idea that everyone should make music that's "completely original" is a fairly recent one. It's also silly in most cases, IMO, since there's nothing wrong with using someone else's work as a starting point -- as long as you can make something interesting and new out of the material you start with.


Posted by adx on Apr-29-2008 05:49:

Yea it is an original. Last post kinda came out wrong (post 7 is 100% accurate). Dunno.. had a few drinks that night. Didnt think I was retarding it tho.

I listened to a few Gorecki tracks, and definately hear a similiarity. Yet other composers Ive heard have similiarities as well.

Finished Symphony is one incredible track. Each element added is evident and defined by the next. It certainly seems there was some drinking and Gorecki playin when they first started the track.



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