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Posted by djms on Apr-25-2008 11:31:

automating release in Ableton

Hey guys

Does anyone know how I can automate the release on synths in Ableton like Sylenth1 or Z3ta+.....

On most synths it doesn;t come up as a parameter to automate so I'm not sure how to do it or if it can be done.

Posted by G-Con on Apr-25-2008 11:48:

Yeah, ableton limits to 127 parameters or something so if the release isn't in the first 127 then it wont show up. One work around is find out what midi cc number the release on the synth is and automate it using the corresponding number on the midi list.

Alternatively, assign a knob on your controller to control the release. Record and twiddle the knob. You will see the recorded automation on the midi channel number that the knob is outputting to and you can go from there.

Hope this makes sense!

Posted by Agenz on Apr-25-2008 11:50:

If these synths have more than 128 parameters then I don't think it can be done.

Ableton users are crying out for this to be addressed. I think you can use a util from Energy-XT to get around this.

Hope this helps.

Posted by Agenz on Apr-25-2008 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Yeah, ableton limits to 127 parameters or something so if the release isn't in the first 127 then it wont show up. One work around is find out what midi cc number the release on the synth is and automate it using the corresponding number on the midi list.

Alternatively, assign a knob on your controller to control the release. Record and twiddle the knob. You will see the recorded automation on the midi channel number that the knob is outputting to and you can go from there.

Hope this makes sense!

Just beat me

Posted by Acton on Apr-25-2008 11:52:

Posted by Massive84 on Apr-25-2008 12:45:

Posted by Acton on Apr-25-2008 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
Can you please explain what this CC numer is? I am struggeling with this issue also.

I have a novation remote SL midi keyboard and for some reason i can't assign knobs to my novation knobs ;/ . I suck at hardware.

that piece of hardware should automap controls to Zeta+, look in the configuration settings of the SL.

Failing that, just look in the SL manual, its all there on how to map controls manually, but if you have to do that then there is something wrong with your SL or the Automapping feature

Posted by djms on Apr-25-2008 14:55:

Posted by Massive84 on Apr-25-2008 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
that piece of hardware should automap controls to Zeta+, look in the configuration settings of the SL.

Failing that, just look in the SL manual, its all there on how to map controls manually, but if you have to do that then there is something wrong with your SL or the Automapping feature

Ah sorry, i was actually missed that the topic starter mentiond Zeta as his problem

Mine problem so far is with the predator synth

But it's nog big deal, thanks anyway!

Posted by kevin shawn on Apr-25-2008 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by djms
cheers G Con

How do I assign a knob on my midi controller? Or should I just read the manual

Top right of your screen there is a little keyboard thing. Click that, click on whatever you want to assing (release) then move your knob.

I've only used abelton for mixing cds so there is a good chance I'm wrong.

Posted by G-Con on Apr-25-2008 18:06:

Yes read the manual

But top right is midi learn button that turns screen blue. Then click parameter you want to control (in this case the release knob) then twiddle whatever knob on your controller you want to use. You will see a litlle white box appear on the release knob on screen with the midi channel and number of the knob. Click again on midi learn button at top right and you're good to go.

Posted by djms on May-06-2008 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Yes read the manual

But top right is midi learn button that turns screen blue. Then click parameter you want to control (in this case the release knob) then twiddle whatever knob on your controller you want to use. You will see a litlle white box appear on the release knob on screen with the midi channel and number of the knob. Click again on midi learn button at top right and you're good to go.

thanks bud - going to try this soon! cheers

Posted by evo8 on May-06-2008 14:54:

For the amp release in z3ta, make sure the track is armed, then right click on the release slider, midi learn should pop up - then just move whatever knob on your controller you want to assign to control the release, and thats it

If you go around setting up your various parameters in z3ta they should be remembered for every time u use it, but be aware that some parameters may already have a cc assigned, you can right click on these and choose "midi forget" and then u can assign your own cc's

Posted by Khayat on May-06-2008 22:02:

really easy man try it and tell us