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longterm weed smoking and self control
Does longterm weed use make one more relaxed or more schizo? Do people who smoke for long tenures find themselves more relaxed than they were before they started smoking regularly, or more fidgety and paranoid, less controlling of onself. Someone who is Bipolar or has ADHD would it benefit them to smoke weed?
i haven't smoked in 2 months and i'm going schizo. I was already before but at least i was high...come on september.
Long-term, heavy drug use of almost any type tends to narrow people's horizons -- it makes them focus more on the present (where the immediate pleasure of the drug is), on short-term satisfaction of desires, and less on goals that offer deferred gratification like school, a career, or whatever. It lowers their capacity to endure temporary boredom and displeasure for the sake of long-term goals.
This doesn't happen to all heavy users, of course, but I have seen quite a few people go down this road, with all kinds of different drugs, including weed.
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Long-term, heavy drug use of almost any type tends to narrow people's horizons -- it makes them focus more on the present (where the immediate pleasure of the drug is), on short-term satisfaction of desires, and less on goals that offer deferred gratification like school, a career, or whatever. It lowers their capacity to endure temporary boredom and displeasure for the sake of long-term goals. This doesn't happen to all heavy users, of course, but I have seen quite a few people go down this road, with all kinds of different drugs, including weed. |
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| Originally posted by jsibilin http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=16&s= |
Long-term physiological effects are generally minimal, except for lung damage that can result from smoking it.
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| Originally posted by LionsLair your point is? Anyhow back to the topic at hand...im more interested in the homeostasis of ones brain and heart. Does weed cause the user to be more relaxed person over time, or does longterm use cause them to be less relaxed and more lacking of self control/mind control. Maybe im talking about motor skills, or maybe not? |
from what i've read about the research on this topic, there is a connection between family history mental illness and marijuana use. apparently heavy users are *more likely* to develop mental illness if they have a history of it in their family.
common sense though, if you have depression, self medicating with more downers probably is a bad idea. 
on the other hand, there is current research being done using MDMA to treat post-traumatic stress. they are currently doing with with soldiers returning from war, with some success. 
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your point is?
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I guess i just wanted to combine the two threads.. theres also a thread called the pothead alliance..
the key is.. if you like weed,, try to smoke less than a gram a day.. theres been studies (can't find the source) that if u smoke less than a gram its actually good for you releasing serotonin into the brain.. if you smoke more than a gram and are a heavy user then its bad.
i havent done it for a week and im starting to get a lil freaked out. oh boy
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| Originally posted by jsibilin try to smoke less than a gram a day.. theres been studies (can't find the source) that if u smoke less than a gram its actually good for you releasing serotonin into the brain.. if you smoke more than a gram and are a heavy user then its bad. |
We need Mattsanity's opinion on this one.
Re: longterm weed smoking and self control
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| Originally posted by LionsLair Does longterm weed use make one more relaxed or more schizo? Do people who smoke for long tenures find themselves more relaxed than they were before they started smoking regularly, or more fidgety and paranoid, less controlling of onself. Someone who is Bipolar or has ADHD would it benefit them to smoke weed? |
never was a problem for me,
when I was unemployed I used to get baked regularly, Didn't have self control problems when got a job. I still smoke now and then
fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense)
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| Originally posted by KilldaDJ fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense) |
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| Originally posted by KilldaDJ fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense) |
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| Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty Cant that be said about most recreational drugs, alcohol included? |
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Long-term, heavy drug use of almost any type tends to narrow people's horizons -- it makes them focus more on the present (where the immediate pleasure of the drug is), on short-term satisfaction of desires, and less on goals that offer deferred gratification like school, a career, or whatever. It lowers their capacity to endure temporary boredom and displeasure for the sake of long-term goals. This doesn't happen to all heavy users, of course, but I have seen quite a few people go down this road, with all kinds of different drugs, including weed. |
pot doesn't make you act a certain way, think a certain way, or continue a certain pattern of behavior...unless you CHOOSE to follow a specific course. i don't buy this bullshit of "you get lazy" b/c plenty of people are just fuckin lazy regardless of whether they smoke pot or not. you're either lazy or you're not!
bottom line, people who get "addicted" have addictive personalities and would be dependent on SOMETHING if it weren't pot regardless. its the folks who take their addictions to extremes that give it all a bad rep.
people get hooked on weightlifting and end up looking like the mutant muscle dudes---took it to an extreme.
people get hooked on eating and become morbidly obese--took it to an extreme.
people get hooked on a variety of drugs and alcohol---took it an extreme.
blaming a drug for your own lazy and otherwise irresponsible behavior is ridiculous. that's what ruins the potential for pot to become legal.
so if you want to know whether pot increases your probability of becoming less able to control your own behavior, perhaps you should evaluate the behaviors you currently have and look to those for the answers. 
Well, yes, you could argue that people who act in counterproductive ways after they start doing drugs already had major personality defects to start with.
The trouble is, in my experience it all seems to go the other way -- normally decent and responsible people (who had little trouble in school or at work, for example) start doing some drug regularly and heavily, alcohol or pot or meth or whatever, and then it seems like all their thoughts and actions become more present-oriented, focused on short-term pleasure. It doesn't happen in every case, and often the effects aren't permanent, but like I said, I've seen this happen too many times to try to explain it away as, "Well, they must have just had a defective 'addictive personality' from the start!"
I'm not trying to absolve people of responsibility, just describing a chain of events that I've witnessed a good number of times. IMO, it's a heck of lot sillier to contend that heavy drug use doesn't also typically change how people behave in their sober moments. To people who have known addicts, that idea clearly rings false.
a friend of mine went through withdrawal after he stopped smoking for about a week last summer 
It does start to have a long-term effect on you if you smoke enough. Im starting to see it in his personality as well
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Long-term, heavy drug use of almost any type tends to narrow people's horizons -- it makes them focus more on the present (where the immediate pleasure of the drug is), on short-term satisfaction of desires, and less on goals that offer deferred gratification like school, a career, or whatever. It lowers their capacity to endure temporary boredom and displeasure for the sake of long-term goals. This doesn't happen to all heavy users, of course, but I have seen quite a few people go down this road, with all kinds of different drugs, including weed. |
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