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Posted by Xylence on May-01-2008 02:42:

Greatest Synthesizers

I was wonderin' if any of you pros out there could tell me a really good synthesizer I could get like a V-synth GT or something cool. Any recommendations?


Posted by Subtle on May-01-2008 02:44:

Access Virus TI


Posted by echosystm on May-01-2008 02:55:

Re: Greatest Synthesizers

quote:
Originally posted by Xylence
I was wonderin' if any of you pros out there could tell me a really good synthesizer I could get like a V-synth GT or something cool. Any recommendations?


do you know what a filter envelope is?
if not, keep playing around with software, or it will be a waste imo.


Posted by piku303 on May-01-2008 03:48:

the new reissued prophet 5


Posted by Tt1 on May-01-2008 06:37:

Re: Re: Greatest Synthesizers

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
do you know what a filter envelope is?
if not, keep playing around with software, or it will be a waste imo.


I agree, without knowledge of basic synthesis you'll be wasting money. Try your luck at the many free softsynths available before going to hardware. There's plenty to choose from covering all types of synthesis. When you've decided on what type you like the most, move on to look at the features available in the hardware that you are familiar with, the features that you are willing to give a try, and always give them in a try in the store you are purchasing from before you buy. Happy Synthesizing!


Posted by alanzo on May-01-2008 13:20:

Ummmm...

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...441&forumid=48&


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-01-2008 13:27:

not sure i agree, if he wants a synth he should just get one, one of the simpler ones, preferably bought on ebay or something, just to learn stuff. if it doesnt work for him he can probably sell it again for the same price and not lost anything.

u get Korg MS2000, an olschool rack-synth very cheap, and its an ok synth to learn basic stuff.

samples: http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_keyboard/ms2000b/pk_ms2000b.asp


Posted by Storyteller on May-01-2008 13:32:

I'd recommend the Roland SH-201. A fairly new synthesizer, wit a very good layout. Good synth to get a first grasp on synthesis.


Posted by alanzo on May-01-2008 13:37:

I would just have a trial by fire and get a virus b. You'll learn it quicker than you think and be thankful you didn't buy a piece of crap.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-01-2008 13:39:

also microkorg could give u a fun start:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_...k_microkorg.asp



Posted by alanzo on May-01-2008 13:41:

My first synth was a virus and boy was I glad I didn't get a piece of junk. The SH-201 MIGHT be an acceptable first synth, but I definitely wouldn't go with a korg... ever.


Posted by Storyteller on May-01-2008 13:41:

I disagree I had a Virus B 4-5 years right at the beginning I started to produce more seriously. It was overwhelming, too much knobs and functions, I didn't know where to look. If you don't know synthesis I think the Virus is not the synth to start with. From my personal experience.

Most importantly, get a nice synth SECOND HAND. This way you can sell it for virtually the same money as you bought it for. This way you will not lose a lot of money if you bought anything you might not enjoy or understand.


Posted by alanzo on May-01-2008 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I disagree I had a Virus B 4-5 years right at the beginning I started to produce more seriously. It was overwhelming, too much knobs and functions, I didn't know where to look. If you don't know synthesis I think the Virus is not the synth to start with. From my personal experience.


That's what presets are for. A simpler synth won't help... if you want something simple to learn synthesis, just get a copy of V-Station.


Posted by Storyteller on May-01-2008 13:47:

Good tip. You can get it for 28 Euro's if you look at the right places. 100% legal too

And if you really want hardware, the k-station. My friends got that as their first synth. It's a very good one to start with imo! Very easy layout!


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-01-2008 13:48:

what will one learn by using presets? i dont think its smart to get a virus right away, start with synths without multitimbrality i think.


Posted by alanzo on May-01-2008 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
And if you really want hardware, the k-station. My friends got that as their first synth. It's a very good one to start with imo! Very easy layout!


I'm sure there's something better you can spend the $300 on. :P

quote:
what will one learn by using presets? i dont think its smart to get a virus right away, start with synths without multitimbrality i think.


It's all about the sound. Using presets that sound great is better than making your own if they'll sound like crap. Once you can make something that sounds great, you can make your own sounds to be even better.

If learning synthesis is the ONLY goal, just get a freeware VSTi and twiddle away.


Posted by Xylence on May-01-2008 20:15:

Re: Re: Greatest Synthesizers

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
do you know what a filter envelope is?
if not, keep playing around with software, or it will be a waste imo.


Yep, sure do. I've been workin' with a synthesizer for about a year now, but it's a mega old Yamaha. Just lookin' for a good synthesizer that could give me the sound I want.


Posted by Xylence on May-01-2008 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I'm sure there's something better you can spend the $300 on. :P



It's all about the sound. Using presets that sound great is better than making your own if they'll sound like crap. Once you can make something that sounds great, you can make your own sounds to be even better.

If learning synthesis is the ONLY goal, just get a freeware VSTi and twiddle away.


That's not the goal, but either way, even if it was, no VSTi could give me the same results as some serious hardware.


Posted by Xylence on May-01-2008 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
not sure i agree, if he wants a synth he should just get one, one of the simpler ones, preferably bought on ebay or something, just to learn stuff. if it doesnt work for him he can probably sell it again for the same price and not lost anything.

u get Korg MS2000, an olschool rack-synth very cheap, and its an ok synth to learn basic stuff.

samples: http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_.../pk_ms2000b.asp


I've been workin' with old school synths for too long haha. I'm lookin' for something hot and new that can give me the sound I want. Wider range of oscillation and such.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-01-2008 22:30:

waldorf blofeld maybe?


Posted by Storyteller on May-01-2008 22:50:

Or a virus after all


Posted by cryophonik on May-01-2008 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
waldorf blofeld maybe?


+1. Although, I think that if you're only going to have one hardware synth, something with more knobs and less menu-diving is a better option because it gives you more immediate hands-on control. Maybe a Nord Lead 1/2 or Virus A/B? They can be purchased fairly cheap and the resale price seems to have remained stagnant for a while now.

Maybe it's just because I'm old-skool, but I think that turning off your computer, turning on a hardware synth, turning actual knobs, and listening to what happens is a much more efficient and fun way of learning to program synths compared to clicking/dragging on virtual controls. Just my two cents.


Posted by DeZmA on May-01-2008 23:07:

Hardware: Access Virus TI
Software: Propellerhead Thor


Posted by Storyteller on May-01-2008 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
+1. Although, I think that if you're only going to have one hardware synth, something with more knobs and less menu-diving is a better option because it gives you more immediate hands-on control.


You obviously haven't played with the Blofeld yourself
It's so damn simple. I love it. The menu diving on the virus is way more complicated than the Blofeld


Posted by Xylence on May-02-2008 00:57:

Then I'm definitely gonna take a look at the Access Virus TI.


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