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Posted by Ishad on May-02-2008 18:50:

One Album, many tracks.

If an album has say 10 tracks, than how many minimum tracks must be good for you to call it a 'good album'?

For me in a 10 track album, atleast 3 should be good.. 30%!!


Most of Ferry's album has 12-13 tracks but only one worth listening. Isnt it fair to call it a bad album if dosent reach the 30% mark?


Posted by Project-K on May-02-2008 19:00:

No less than 90%


Posted by david.michael on May-02-2008 19:01:

A good album should have only one or two "forgivable" tracks. Otherwise, it's a shit album that has a couple of good tracks on it.


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-02-2008 19:02:

Track placement is a lot more important to me then the individual track when listening to a mix cd. I want to be taken on a journey. Just because the CD has 10 straight bombs doesn't mean it is going to be on repeat in my car for a year.

There have been countless times I went to buy a track that I heard in a mix and when I listened to it soley on it's own, I was unimpressed. The dj was just able to make it work in his set and that's that.


Posted by Ishad on May-02-2008 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
No less than 90%


Hey common 90%??! Cut some slack.. everyone is not Vibrasphere, Banco de Gaia or Ulrich Schnauss!


Posted by PETRAN on May-02-2008 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishad
Hey common 90%??! Cut some slack.. everyone is not Vibrasphere, Banco de Gaia or Ulrich Schnauss!



or, especially, M83









EDIT: Or Sigur Ros, or Hammock, or Port-Royal, or Lights out Asia, or Caspian, or Explosions in the Sky, or Godspeed You Black Emperor!, or Arms and Sleepers, or Ef, or Maps, or This Will Destroy You, or...


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-02-2008 19:13:

Re: One Album, many tracks.

quote:
Originally posted by Ishad
For me in a 10 track album, atleast 3 should be good.. 30%!!

Why would you call that a "good" album? Wouldn't it be more logical to call it a mediocre (or bad) album with a few good tracks?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-02-2008 19:14:

I wouldn't call a painting "good" if only the bottom third was good and the rest was boring / crap.


Posted by PETRAN on May-02-2008 19:18:

Re: Re: One Album, many tracks.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Why would you call that a "good" album? Wouldn't it be more logical to call it a mediocre (or bad) album with a few good tracks?




Yep


Posted by Project-K on May-02-2008 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishad
Hey common 90%??! Cut some slack.. everyone is not Vibrasphere, Banco de Gaia or Ulrich Schnauss!


There's more than enough decent music out there to have high standards. Unless you're lazy and you just want to hear shit music.


Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on May-02-2008 19:21:

Gotta agree with bojingles on this one. The whole is as good as the sum of its parts. If you make a milkshake with 2 parts delicious ice cream and 8 parts turd, it's still gonna be a crappy [ba-dum-bum] shake.

That's not the say the ice cream wouldn't taste great on its own!


Posted by woscar on May-02-2008 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
...or Godspeed You Black Emperor!...


Actually, it�s 'Godspeed You! Black Emperor'...they moved the exclamation point in 2002.


Posted by PETRAN on May-02-2008 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar99
Actually, it�s 'Godspeed You! Black Emperor'...they moved the exclamation point in 2002.




Lol, i know, its just that i find their best work to be "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven" which was recorded under the name
Godspeed You Black Emperor! and not Godspeed You! Black Emperor (neither Godspeed! You Black Emperor)


Posted by Paradox Lost on May-02-2008 20:01:

For tracks that are categorically 'good,' and not simply tolerable and passively pleasant, I'd say four out of ten for me.


Posted by PETRAN on May-02-2008 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
For tracks that are categorically 'good,' and not simply tolerable and passively pleasant, I'd say four out of ten for me.



If you buy every album with only 4 (good) out of ten tracks, you'll end up with thousands of bad to mediocre cds...



Wait...unless...you download...


Posted by whiskers on May-02-2008 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
or, especially, M83









EDIT: Or Sigur Ros, or Hammock, or Port-Royal, or Lights out Asia, or Caspian, or Explosions in the Sky, or Godspeed You Black Emperor!, or Arms and Sleepers, or Ef, or Maps, or This Will Destroy You, or...



...or mum, you wanker!

/your newsletter, wish to subscribe to it


Posted by Paradox Lost on May-02-2008 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
If you buy every album with only 4 (good) out of ten tracks, you'll end up with thousands of bad to mediocre cds...


I wrote that assuming we're talking about Dance music artist albums, and in that respect, perhaps my expectations have become low enough (from most of the one's I own, at least) such that four good tracks is enough to receive a passing grade from me.

But it's also worth mentioning that a mere collection of good songs doesn't translate into a good album. I can burn a CD with a variety of good tracks, it doesn't mean they're going to sound good together or fit well within the album as a whole.


Posted by PaulSn on May-02-2008 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
No less than 90%



+1


Posted by PETRAN on May-02-2008 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
...or mum, you wanker!

/your newsletter, wish to subscribe to it



"Finally We Are No One" FTW!!! (was the 2007 album any good!?)


Posted by Ishad on May-02-2008 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
If you buy every album with only 4 (good) out of ten tracks, you'll end up with thousands of bad to mediocre cds...



Wait...unless...you download...


Oooo.. touch.

I do..

And how am I supposed to know an album is good or not without actually purchasing it before and listening it later? By looking at the cover? I download.. and when I like it.. I purchase it.

And if I had to purchase everytime, I will:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
If you buy every album with only 4 (good) out of ten tracks, you'll end up with thousands of bad to mediocre cds...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-02-2008 20:41:

I don't work it out like that.


Posted by Ishad on May-02-2008 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I don't work it out like that.


Than?


Posted by woscar on May-02-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Lol, i know, its just that i find their best work to be "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven" which was recorded under the name
Godspeed You Black Emperor! and not Godspeed You! Black Emperor (neither Godspeed! You Black Emperor)


Yeah, great fucking music these guys make, indifferent of the name. Perhaps they should have gotten their shit right from the beginning instead. Another favorite of mine is "East Hastings" which is the track that plays at the beginning of "28 Days Later" and is on "f#a#". I came to know them through this track. Simply awesome


Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-02-2008 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishad
Than?


Depends on what the "not good" tracks are like, depends on how good the "good" tracks are, depends on how they all fit together.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-03-2008 03:59:

I rate albums as a whole, not individual tracks.


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