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Posted by tubularbills on May-03-2008 23:22:

What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

Would you rather make a lot of money but hate your coworkers, or not make a lot of cash, but love your coworkers?

personally, i think its the people...i'd much rather be happy at my job and not really have a lot of cash, rather than dreading having to go in to work everyday with a bunch of douchebags


Posted by stren on May-03-2008 23:25:

people no doubt


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-03-2008 23:25:

Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
Would you rather make a lot of money but hate your coworkers, or not make a lot of cash, but love your coworkers?

personally, i think its the people...i'd much rather be happy at my job and not really have a lot of cash, rather than dreading having to go in to work everyday with a bunch of douchebags


try making alot of cash, your opinion will change. work sucks and the only reason you work is to make cash. fuck the people, after a few years you will learn not to like something about every person you work with anyway. trust me on that one.


Posted by L.E.N. on May-03-2008 23:31:

The people I know that make a ton of money are working so much that their personal life fails and they still arent happy. Granted, the bills are paid but when the wife and kids leave and alamony kicks in.You lose half, end up in a little apartment and still busting your ass just to get by.


Posted by chach on May-03-2008 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
people no doubt
That's fucking stupid, you are there to make money not friends. I couldn't give a shit about any of my co workers I do my job get paid end of story.


Posted by Project-K on May-03-2008 23:36:

Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
the only reason you work is to make cash.


Unless of course you like your job and your coworkers.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-03-2008 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
The people I know that make a ton of money are working so much that their personal life fails and they still arent happy. Granted, the bills are paid but when the wife and kids leave and alamony kicks in.You lose half, end up in a little apartment and still busting your ass just to get by.


everyone has to put in their time...in my line of work, you start with 60-65 hour weeks in the first few years, after about 5 to 7 years that should drop to a reasonable 50 hour week if you put in quality work product during those years. At that point you are making 2 times the starting salary and working 20% less.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-03-2008 23:39:

Re: Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
Unless of course you like your job and your coworkers.


but i'm sure you didn't start the job to make friends, and if they stopped paying you certainly wouldn't stick around.


Posted by Renzo on May-03-2008 23:40:

Well, I guess that depends on what the job entails. If the job requires you to engage in continuous group projects, then it might be hard to do your job without wanting to cut your own balls off. I'd rather read a thesis paper by australianGQ than work there.

But if the job is not team-oriented, I don't care if a room full of coonts work with me. I'll take the money. If I wanted friends, I'd go back to third grade. Money is king.


Posted by L.E.N. on May-03-2008 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
everyone has to put in their time...in my line of work, you start with 60-65 hour weeks in the first few years, after about 5 to 7 years that should drop to a reasonable 50 hour week if you put in quality work product during those years. At that point you are making 2 times the starting salary and working 20% less.


Thats your line of work. The friends Im talking about are either executives or business owners. Its non stop travel/hustle.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-03-2008 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Thats your line of work. The friends Im talking about are either executives or business owners. Its non stop travel/hustle.


executives and business owners aren't the only people who do well for themselves, monetarily.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-03-2008 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by chach
That's fucking stupid, you are there to make money not friends. I couldn't give a shit about any of my co workers I do my job get paid end of story.





Sure, if you work at a job that doesn't require teamwork.

I couldn't stand going to work if I didn't like the people I have to work with.


Posted by L.E.N. on May-03-2008 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
executives and business owners aren't the only people who do well for themselves, monetarily.


Im well aware of that but I can only comment on situations I know about.
So what do you do then?


Posted by SuspicionVandit on May-03-2008 23:58:

I go to work for the money, not to braid hair.

If they are nice, that's great. If they are cocksuckers, I deal with it.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Im well aware of that but I can only comment on situations I know about.
So what do you do then?


true....

lawyer


Posted by Project-K on May-04-2008 00:01:

Re: Re: Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
but i'm sure you didn't start the job to make friends


No but it's a good reason to stay when circumstances would otherwise make you leave.

Would you rather get paid to have fun most of the time or get paid 25% more and endure a living hell for 8 hours, 5 days a week?


Posted by silene on May-04-2008 00:05:

I was planning to work the summer away at a coffee shop, something that's very distant from the career I will eventually pursue, simply because I wanted a change of pace and a social environment. I'd get to meet a lot of cool people. But instead, I took a job that requires me to go way the fuck up north for 2 months. Pay's gonna be good, but I'll be moving from one small community to the next a few times every week, won't really make friends, and won't be working with anyone. Hotels and food are free, but I can see it getting really depressing. I really need the money at this point in my life, but I would never take this job otherwise. So, people, definitely.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:05:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
No but it's a good reason to stay when circumstances would otherwise make you leave.

Would you rather get paid to have fun most of the time or get paid 25% more and endure a living hell for 8 hours, 5 days a week?


that's not the same question, and even the best working situations are hardly fun. but to answer the question, i would rather take the pay cut to have fun. i actually took a pay cut just so i wouldn't have to wear a tie. it wasn't much, maybe 5K a year.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by silene
I was planning to work the summer away at a coffee shop, something that's very distant from the career I will eventually pursue, simply because I wanted a change of pace and a social environment. I'd get to meet a lot of cool people. But instead, I took a job that requires me to go way the fuck up north for 2 months. Pay's gonna be good, but I'll be moving from one small community to the next a few times every week, won't really make friends, and won't be working with anyone. Hotels and food are free, but I can see it getting really depressing. I really need the money at this point in my life, but I would never take this job otherwise. So, people, definitely.


if it was people you wouldn't be taking that job. you have clearly chosen money.


Posted by L.E.N. on May-04-2008 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
true....

lawyer


I object.

That can still be a a pretty involving field though, am I right? I really dont mind busting my ass for a bunch of extra hours though. I dont plan on getting married and if a female wants to argue about working so much, she can kick rocks. I think when you have an involving job and try juggle that with a "white picket fence" kinda homelife you are asking for trouble. Some have to learn the hard way and some learn from others mistakes.


Posted by Project-K on May-04-2008 00:09:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
that's not the same question


Maybe not, but it's a similar one.

I've made a fair range of salaries considering my education, and I'd have to say, the best job I've ever had was working minimum wage (about half of the most I've made) at a laser tag. There wasn't much to the job - just operating the place, cleaning up, fixing the occasional electronics problem, but the people who worked there were just fun to be around and they made work feel a lot less like work.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
I object.

That can still be a a pretty involving field though, am I right? I really dont mind busting my ass for a bunch of extra hours though. I dont plan on getting married and if a female wants to argue about working so much, she can kick rocks. I think when you have an involving job and try juggle that with a "white picket fence" kinda homelife you are asking for trouble. Some have to learn the hard way and some learn from others mistakes.


i've been in the office past midnight on several occasions.


Posted by L.E.N. on May-04-2008 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i've been in the office past midnight on several occasions.


Dippin the "pen" in company ink eh?


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:13:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What makes a job worthwhile: the money or the people?

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
Maybe not, but it's a similar one.

I've made a fair range of salaries considering my education, and I'd have to say, the best job I've ever had was working minimum wage (about half of the most I've made) at a laser tag. There wasn't much to the job - just operating the place, cleaning up, fixing the occasional electronics problem, but the people who worked there were just fun to be around and they made work feel a lot less like work.


sounds like kevin spacey in american beauty.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-04-2008 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Dippin the "pen" in company ink eh?



ha...i wish, more like the company sticking its foot up my ass.


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