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LIVE Trance Producers..... Why are there none?

please show me some local trance LIVE acts.

and if you are producing, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a live set too.

PM when accomplished.


Kthxbye.

i guess Rank 1 and Push realised how much more work it is than just mixing someone elses tune into another persons tune every 6 mins and gave in to laziness

rusty o'hara?
not sure what his up to these days or what sound his pushing

Re: LIVE Trance Producers..... Why are there none?

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Originally posted by Anomyst please show me some local trance LIVE acts. and if you are producing, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a live set too. PM when accomplished. Kthxbye.

Further to this if you produce quality tunes, and want them released PM ME!!!! no really i mean it

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LIVE Trance Producers..... Why are there none?

Audrey Gallagher?

I'm sure i will attract some criticism for saying this and i really don't mean to offend anyone but personally, 95% of live acts bore the brains out of me.

I just think that when you look at a 60 or 90 minute period a well put togther set from a dj playing a range of different producer's music is far more interesting/entertaining than 60-90 minutes of one dudes material that almost all sounds the same and often isn't very good.

My comment is not in any way a stab at the talent involved to produce/play live vs Djing so please don't take it as that. Im talking purely as a punter and what i like to see.

I dunno, I could be the only that thinks that way but live acts don't do it for me im afriad.

i don't mean internationally i mean locally. some of the best music i have ever heard is from a live act. a good live act.

just wondering why producers (especially in generic trance) don't ever sway into these fields. its much better to lock down a lineup that you can control the sound over if you know what i mean and you can be creative in that sense too when you design events. and it opens so many doors for creativity and the uniqueness of someones sound.

I'm kinda of that opinion too Scott and i think it comes down to what you want out of a 'set' of music. I much rather seeing a DJ as they have the arsenal (ie lots of music from different people, places, genres even) to be spontaneous and really feed off a crowd, whereas i find that with live acts you generally know what you're going to get because it's a lot more pre-planned (and before anyone says anything, yes I know there is/can be lots of improvisation but it's still only generally variations on a theme).

Having said that I would have to say that seeing someone like Matthew Jonson at Earthcore a few years ago would have to be in my top maybe 3 stes i've ever heard & Robert Babicz last year wasn't far behind that either. I guess i don't subscribe to the 'Live is holier than thou' attitude that some people do, but when that rare artist/talent comes along then it's absolutely amazing

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Originally posted by Dean Millson I'm kinda of that opinion too Scott and i think it comes down to what you want out of a 'set' of music. I much rather seeing a DJ as they have the arsenal (ie lots of music from different people, places, genres even) to be spontaneous and really feed off a crowd, whereas i find that with live acts you generally know what you're going to get because it's a lot more pre-planned (and before anyone says anything, yes I know there is/can be lots of improvisation but it's still only generally variations on a theme). Having said that I would have to say that seeing someone like Matthew Jonson at Earthcore a few years ago would have to be in my top maybe 3 stes i've ever heard & Robert Babicz last year wasn't far behind that either. I guess i don't subscribe to the 'Live is holier than thou' attitude that some people do, but when that rare artist/talent comes along then it's absolutely amazing

too true! im not of the opinion DJ's dont cut the mustard but i like the variation across an event or party with a good mix of both.

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Originally posted by Anomyst i don't mean internationally i mean locally.

Yeah i do too mang - haven't seen one yet that was as good as any dj set imo.

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Originally posted by Anomyst and it opens so many doors for creativity and the uniqueness of someones sound.

depends on ur point of view i guess but for me all the uniquness or creativity in the world is no good if their music isn't that good or diverse to begin with.

(not discrediting ur view benny, just explaining why i see it the way i do )

not at all man, its a good discussion!

of course you would separate the shit stuff from the good stuff. wouldn't book someone just for the sake that they play live, they have to be able to do it well.

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Originally posted by Anomyst not at all man, its a good discussion! of course you would separate the shit stuff from the good stuff. wouldn't book someone just for the sake that they play live, they have to be able to do it well.

I think another interesting conversation is what do you class as 'playing live'?

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Originally posted by batemanscott I think another interesting conversation is what do you class as 'playing live'?

isnt that the name of your mum's website?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN isnt that the name of your mum's website?

nah mang its www.illbangprettymuchanyoneexceptfilthytasmanians.com

Here's a challenge to live producers. Make as part of the set, an old school yamaha keyboard. Press the demo button, crank the tempo, and using the synths, unleash (or maybe, to start off with find) z trance!

stop

hammertime

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Originally posted by batemanscott I think another interesting conversation is what do you class as 'playing live'?

For the set to actually be entertaining and LIVE - you need to have more traditional elements being used. Someone singing for example, or someone bashing out something amazing on the keyboard (think BT) I find watching some dude hunched over his laptop twiddling a midi controller really boring.

They weren't strictly "trance" per say, but back a few years ago local melbourne act Highland were pretty sweet. No one else I am really aware of at the moment that is doing trance though :s Myke and I do occasionally with Lumiera, but even we haven't done anything in awhile because we are focusing on more down-tempo stuff, non club environments.

NFX used to live sets. thats the only local i can remember off the top of my head

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Originally posted by MissBee For the set to actually be entertaining and LIVE - you need to have more traditional elements being used. Someone singing for example, or someone bashing out something amazing on the keyboard (think BT) I find watching some dude hunched over his laptop twiddling a midi controller really boring.

Yeah im the same I just don't see how mixing tunes on a laptop with ableton is classed as 'live'.

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Originally posted by batemanscott haven't seen one yet that was as good as any dj set imo.

did you see ottaviani at apollo??
best set i've ever seen or heard, trance-wise. it was mostly his own stuff tho, but nothing wrong with that-- any dj who produces a lot is going to play mostly his own stuff-- when it comes to local guys obviously it would be lame: but hell- look at a tyas or a joc set- there might be 1 tune in there that doesn't have their names on it, so you can't really say that all CD-DJs are more likely to play different types of music within a set... most big guys play mostly their own stuff, or their own specific sound at least.

i think pvd does an interesting "live" compromise- mostly played from ableton, but with the keyboard running over a lot of the tracks as well... which perhaps combines both worlds (the flexibility of a dj set with the awesome "live" qualities)...

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Originally posted by EgosXII did you see ottaviani at apollo?? best set i've ever seen or heard, trance-wise. it was mostly his own stuff tho, but nothing wrong with that-- any dj who produces a lot is going to play mostly his own stuff-- when it comes to local guys obviously it would be lame: but hell- look at a tyas or a joc set- there might be 1 tune in there that doesn't have their names on it, so you can't really say that all CD-DJs are more likely to play different types of music within a set... most big guys play mostly their own stuff, or their own specific sound at least. i think pvd does an interesting "live" compromise- mostly played from ableton, but with the keyboard running over a lot of the tracks as well... which perhaps combines both worlds (the flexibility of a dj set with the awesome "live" qualities)...

No i didn't mate but heard similar comments about his set from a few ppl

I think that if you love all of a producers tunes you will like them live but as much as i would probably lick sander van doorns balls i still dont think i would want to hear a whole set of just his tunes and he's the only producer that has blown me away with everything he has released.

My comments are more directed at what we see regularly here in Melbourne. I really do have to point out that they don't apply to every live act to - just the ones i have seen so far. I'm sure at some point i'll see one that blows me away but that hasn't happened yet.

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Originally posted by EgosXII i think pvd does an interesting "live" compromise- mostly played from ableton, but with the keyboard running over a lot of the tracks as well...

but why compromise integrity? Once you start playing other people's tunes on Ableton, I don't consider it live, I don't even would call that a DJ set. Once you take beatmatching out of the game, unless you playing your own tunes, I consider that fucking cheating. Have a look at Sasha these days for example. Fuck I love Mongoose but his sets are incredibly fucking boring these days. Digweed however, is entirely different story....

Back to our initial discussion, wasn't there a party a year or two back called Alive which mostly consist of Live acts? Maybe Bill can fill us in on that one?

alive was mostly techy stuff as opposed to trance. Not to say it wasn't cool

Locally i'd say Decoy are the way to go. Freq does good live sets and so does Blinky. Autonomech would be another alternative...

Bcott Sateman - have you tried crossing your bridge with no apparent rhythm as yet? Well, you will find that easier with Abelton...

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Originally posted by TRANSPHERE Bcott Sateman - have you tried crossing your bridge with no apparent rhythm as yet? Well, you will find that easier with Abelton...

haha, when i work out what the fvck that means i'll be sure to try it lol

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Originally posted by EgosXII did you see ottaviani at apollo?? best set i've ever seen or heard, trance-wise. it was mostly his own stuff tho,

yuk. they both suck since they split.

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