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Posted by Subtle on May-08-2008 13:03:

Which plugins are unstable and stable for you ?

Im curious to know which VST Instruments and Effects you consider unstable and stable.

By unstable i mean, causes crash, CPU Spikes, and sometimes just starts poring out sound and noise.

I ask this because its very important to me that every plugin i use is dead stable at any times.
Im even afraid to try new plugs because they can crash my system.


Posted by echosystm on May-08-2008 13:19:

i used to be the type to load up on vsts and shit like theres no tomorrow... i use very little these days though. at the moment all i have installed is korg legacy collection, kontakt and some voxengo plugs (glisseq, crunchessor, elephant). i need guitar rig, massive and camelphat or camelspace. then i am done

i have had no crashes thus far. however, i do have one problem... sometimes when i have more than one legacy cell in a project, when i edit a midi clip on one of the channels, all the other legacy cell channels will mute.


Posted by kadomony on May-08-2008 15:40:

Sylenth fucking kills my CPU but sounds great :P


Posted by sot on May-08-2008 20:55:

arturia arp 2600

errors logic all the time and almost blows my speakers at times

always have to bounce down whatever im using it to .aif to avoid any conflicts


Posted by Magnus on May-09-2008 15:41:

Its a known issue and I tore my hair out before I narrowed it down, but you cannot use 2 instances of Compadre Beatpuncher. Using 1 is fine, but add 2 instances and your project will work fine and will save fine but its when you try to open your project that it crashes Cubase and won't open. Not sure about using multiple instances of it in other sequencers. I've wrote the company about it, no response. It sucks because its one of my favorite plugins.


Posted by themonkeylover on May-09-2008 20:42:

z3ta: for some reason the automation just disappears and whenever i add it it will also mess up the other midi tracks automation even if its another vst! its a shame cus the sound and the interface are great.


Posted by kitphillips on May-10-2008 03:17:

Melodyne demo nearly tore my head off the other day, completely munted my whole system and I had to restart. Understandable though, your linking two hosts together with it. Also have had problems with some of the ARturia stuff, less problems with Native Instruments, although sometimes I lost the gui and it wont come back


Posted by T-Soma on May-10-2008 04:22:

Pretty much every mini Moog emulation I have ever tried seems to eat way more CPU than anything else.


Posted by DJ RANN on May-12-2008 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
Pretty much every mini Moog emulation I have ever tried seems to eat way more CPU than anything else.


+1. The arturia minimoog just kills my system often hangs on a loud note. In fact a lot of the arturia stuff just beats the crap out of my cpu, and makes cubase/nuendo really sluggish.


Posted by Thunder5 on May-12-2008 21:10:

z3ta sometimes fucks up, hangs on a note forever.


Posted by Owsey on May-12-2008 21:34:

Z3ta would sometimes fuck up for me


Posted by cybernetica on May-13-2008 01:57:

I never had crashes of z3ta, its seems pretty stable to me. Only drawing the automation is a little buggy.
Albino 3 is very stable while Albino 2 is a complete bitch and crashes all the time.
NI products are really stable, never experienced a crash of one of them, but sometimes their CPU load reaches insane level, especially Massive.
Spectrasonics StylusRMX is also a little unstable to me.

I guess it often depends on the host/plugin combination. I got much less problems with FL7 than with FL6.


Posted by Ray_Chappell on May-13-2008 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Melodyne demo nearly tore my head off the other day, completely munted my whole system and I had to restart. Understandable though, your linking two hosts together with it. Also have had problems with some of the ARturia stuff, less problems with Native Instruments, although sometimes I lost the gui and it wont come back


Same here. Completely locked up Ableton and was entirely unable to open Live until I learned I had to delete the rewire bridge from a Reason folder. Kind of weird, but at least I found the problem.


Posted by TVG on May-14-2008 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
Sylenth fucking kills my CPU but sounds great :P


Serious? Uses only about 4% cpu for me. I've had some Korg Legacy patches at 30%.

Battery 3 has been the worst for me. I had to go back to Battery 2.


Posted by kitphillips on May-15-2008 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Ray_Chappell
Same here. Completely locked up Ableton and was entirely unable to open Live until I learned I had to delete the rewire bridge from a Reason folder. Kind of weird, but at least I found the problem.


Hehe, well mine wasn't that bad, I should quite complaining


Posted by Subtle on May-15-2008 13:21:

I am using a dual core CPU and there are no plugins that drains my CPU much at all. However, running 2-3 instances of Nexus really drains my RAM. Even so much RAM i cant even save my project at times.

I also find Battery 3 really crappy and unstable, Battery uses more time to load than the rest of the project together.


Posted by jupiterone on May-18-2008 10:19:

battery and circle are my most favorite things evar


Posted by St. Michael on May-21-2008 00:02:

Nexus Big!Tone Signature crashes Logic 8 every time.

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz


Posted by cryophonik on May-21-2008 00:23:

Wow, I'm surprised so many people are having problems with Nexus. One of the guys I collaborate with is an overzealous Nexus fiend and our last project had 17 instances of Nexus! On top of that, we're using Battery 3 and Stylus RMX. Granted, many of those Nexus instances are just triggering single-shots from the Dance Drums expansion, but he's using a Pentium D and I'm using an e6400 Core2Duo each with 2GB RAM with no serious performance issues.

@St.Michael - are you sure the BigTone expansion is installed correctly? I've used multiple instances of Nexus with patches from that bank and never noticed anything unusual about the performance.


Posted by daeus on May-21-2008 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i used to be the type to load up on vsts and shit like theres no tomorrow... i use very little these days though. at the moment all i have installed is korg legacy collection, kontakt and some voxengo plugs (glisseq, crunchessor, elephant). i need guitar rig, massive and camelphat or camelspace. then i am done

i have had no crashes thus far. however, i do have one problem... sometimes when i have more than one legacy cell in a project, when i edit a midi clip on one of the channels, all the other legacy cell channels will mute.


Yea I think when your starting off you try them all but it really comes down to just a few at the end of the day, takes allot of time to figure what to keep tho.


Posted by Aesthetic on May-22-2008 04:04:

v-station used to always crash fl studio for me on my p4 3.0ghz with hyperthreading.. but since i built the xeon dual core recently it's behaving itself


Posted by St. Michael on May-22-2008 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Wow, I'm surprised so many people are having problems with Nexus. One of the guys I collaborate with is an overzealous Nexus fiend and our last project had 17 instances of Nexus! On top of that, we're using Battery 3 and Stylus RMX. Granted, many of those Nexus instances are just triggering single-shots from the Dance Drums expansion, but he's using a Pentium D and I'm using an e6400 Core2Duo each with 2GB RAM with no serious performance issues.

@St.Michael - are you sure the BigTone expansion is installed correctly? I've used multiple instances of Nexus with patches from that bank and never noticed anything unusual about the performance.


Yeah, everything is installed correctly legit software Version 1.4.1 legit expansion packs from refx. I can run multiple instances of Nexus with over 40 other plug-ins and automation up the ass, but still Big!tone patches crash Logic 8 even if it is the only thing loaded in a new project.

My machine stats:

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC Version: 1.25f4

By the way, the guitar expansion also does this. Those are two of the few newer expansion packs from Nexus.


Posted by Eldritch on May-22-2008 17:27:

Not really a plugin, but Virus Control is very unstable for me.
If you're looking for strange crackling noises, stuck notes, loss of sync, loss of pitch, bizarre changing of patches...
Look no further, the Virus TI delivers!


Posted by thecureforsin on May-23-2008 12:12:

With running the FL7 I haven't really seen any problems. The biggest thing is usually with the Arturia UI in the program not loading correctly, but that's something on FL's end (works fine in Cubase). I don't think I really run into any other issues aside from maybe a couple vsts being CPU hogs (ie: Massive).



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