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Anyone know where I can watch a demo of cycloops being used?

I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how it works. I think it'd help if I could see it

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Originally posted by Guest I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how it works. I think it'd help if I could see it

i dunno about a demo, but it's basically a very simple looper.

you can record 6 samples, and then loop them... and then play them, one at a time, or one over the other. you can even record one sample and then record another over it to mash-up two samples... but it's hard to get 2 or more together and not make it sound like complete garbage.

pretty useless thing, if you ask me.

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Originally posted by denys envy pretty useless thing, if you ask me.

I think you just don't know how to use it.

Very useful in my mind, especially for looping acapellas or parts of quote en quote 'minimal' techno, intro percussion, basslines, melodies - really whatever you'd like.

It's only useless if you aren't creative enough to learn how to make use of it - just like an EFX unit, laptop, etc.

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Originally posted by RJT I think you just don't know how to use it. Very useful in my mind, especially for looping acapellas or parts of quote en quote 'minimal' techno, intro percussion, basslines, melodies - really whatever you'd like. It's only useless if you aren't creative enough to learn how to make use of it - just like an EFX unit, laptop, etc.

Ya I want to be able to loop sections of vinyl records. My question is though, does it need its own channel on the mixer?

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Originally posted by Guest Ya I want to be able to loop sections of vinyl records. My question is though, does it need its own channel on the mixer?

yes... where else were you thinking of plugging it in? lol, sorry, but seriously.

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Originally posted by RJT I think you just don't know how to use it. Very useful in my mind, especially for looping acapellas or parts of quote en quote 'minimal' techno, intro percussion, basslines, melodies - really whatever you'd like. It's only useless if you aren't creative enough to learn how to make use of it - just like an EFX unit, laptop, etc.

there's other, better things, that can do alot more. is all i'm saying.

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Originally posted by denys envy yes... where else were you thinking of plugging it in? lol, sorry, but seriously.

Ya i dont know how the wiring works. I thought it might use the send return somehow

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Originally posted by denys envy there's other, better things, that can do alot more. is all i'm saying.

Eye of the beholder, and it's all in who's using it. You really don't get to define something as better or worse just because you think there's something out there you'd prefer to use.

Some guys are still better with vinyl than anyone on CD's. Are they idiots for not using the "better" medium? What about kids who buy EFX units and use them to look pretty? Sure, they can do a bunch, but who the fuck cares if they aren't doing anything with it?

The question wasn't about whether or not you thought it was worthwhile, it was how it's used, and to me - you panning it as useless for no reason other than the fact that you can't use one without making it sound like shit only says that you can't use it without it sounding like shit. Nothing else.

1:30, watch very closely, cycloops is on channel 1

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Originally posted by Clovis 1:30, watch very closely, cycloops is on channel 1

nice, I can hear the snare start hitting faster after she employs the loop

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Originally posted by Guest nice, I can hear the snare start hitting faster after she employs the loop

She grabs a 1 beat loop from the outgoing track which makes the bass note on that one beat repeat quickly, brings it in, and kills that when the incoming track drops fully.

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Originally posted by RJT Eye of the beholder, and it's all in who's using it. You really don't get to define something as better or worse just because you think there's something out there you'd prefer to use. Some guys are still better with vinyl than anyone on CD's. Are they idiots for not using the "better" medium? What about kids who buy EFX units and use them to look pretty? Sure, they can do a bunch, but who the fuck cares if they aren't doing anything with it? The question wasn't about whether or not you thought it was worthwhile, it was how it's used, and to me - you panning it as useless for no reason other than the fact that you can't use one without making it sound like shit only says that you can't use it without it sounding like shit. Nothing else.

right! hence why i said "IF YOU ASK ME" because if you ask someone else... well they're likely to tell you something different... just as you have yourself right there...

but no one's teaching you how to read rob. if there are any other parts of my sentence you'd like to skip over then go right ahead.

to the original poster - i find things like EFX1000 and/or Ableton Live are capable of performing the same things as C-loops and quite a few more tricks and are a much better investment. but again - that's just me - you should try different equipment and figure out what's best for you. the local guitar center is gracious enough to have these things on display for me and let me try them out before i purchase anything. scope out stores like that nearby you and see if you can do the same.

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Originally posted by RJT I think you just don't know how to use it. Very useful in my mind, especially for looping acapellas or parts of quote en quote 'minimal' techno, intro percussion, basslines, melodies - really whatever you'd like. It's only useless if you aren't creative enough to learn how to make use of it - just like an EFX unit, laptop, etc.

Exactly. I love my Cycloops. I need that back from Clovis asap, he hates using it

Denys, to be fair, in terms of bang for your buck...the cycloops is spot on. Only $200 and you get a sampler that can auto beat match with your music. Yes an outboard EFX unit will do loads more (it's designed to ) but it also costs 2-3 times as much. And YES Ableton can do EVEN more than that, but think of all the extra stuff you'd need with Ableton. Cycloops is just plug and play

It's a bit tricky to get used to, but once you're on, you're on. And there's an easy way to combat the multiple samples playing at a time sounding like shit. You just have to tweak the eq levels. With every additional sample you bring in, you're bringing more and more levels of sound with the same eq.

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Originally posted by bas Exactly. I love my Cycloops. I need that back from Clovis asap, he hates using it Denys, to be fair, in terms of bang for your buck...the cycloops is spot on. Only $200 and you get a sampler that can auto beat match with your music. Yes an outboard EFX unit will do loads more (it's designed to ) but it also costs 2-3 times as much. And YES Ableton can do EVEN more than that, but think of all the extra stuff you'd need with Ableton. Cycloops is just plug and play It's a bit tricky to get used to, but once you're on, you're on. And there's an easy way to combat the multiple samples playing at a time sounding like shit. You just have to tweak the eq levels. With every additional sample you bring in, you're bringing more and more levels of sound with the same eq.

spot on (nice phrase there) with the financial thing. i guess i need to stop wasting my money on toys.

anyway next time i'm out in LA you can show me. maybe i didn't give it a fair chance.

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Originally posted by Guest nice, I can hear the snare start hitting faster after she employs the loop

She didn't grab the snare, she grabbed that wonky synth

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Originally posted by denys envy spot on (nice phrase there) with the financial thing. i guess i need to stop wasting my money on toys. anyway next time i'm out in LA you can show me. maybe i didn't give it a fair chance.

Yeah it's a lot of fun once you come up with something interesting to do. It also makes really long drawn out mixing easy, or it can get you out of a late mix in a pinch

I've never dj'ed in my life, but I had no idea you could make loops on vinyl. This makes switch to cd's or laptops even less reasonable to me. So has the looping ability on turntables been around for a long time, or is more of recent thing?

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Originally posted by ibizzzaaa I've never dj'ed in my life, but I had no idea you could make loops on vinyl. This makes switch to cd's or laptops even less reasonable to me. So has the looping ability on turntables been around for a long time, or is more of recent thing?

Looooooong time. There are mixers with a loop effects built in

It's just a sampler heh

I think the reason the Cycloops is so widely received is because of it's price, it's size, and it's auto beatmatch function. You can stick it in a record bag and it only requires a few cables (power and input to a mixer) and an empty line in on a mixer to work. There's a little dial on it that lets you adjust for bpm if the auto beatmatch doesn't catch on fast enough or needs a little tweaking to get right. Fantastic little piece of equipment, but nothing really that new

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Originally posted by bas Looooooong time. There are mixers with a loop effects built in It's just a sampler heh

Oh, ok. So at least NOW I know.

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Originally posted by bas I think the reason the Cycloops is so widely received is because of it's price, it's size, and it's auto beatmatch function. You can stick it in a record bag and it only requires a few cables (power and input to a mixer) and an empty line in on a mixer to work. There's a little dial on it that lets you adjust for bpm if the auto beatmatch doesn't catch on fast enough or needs a little tweaking to get right. Fantastic little piece of equipment, but nothing really that new

Auto beatmatch is useless on it imo, but I think the redsound one might have a better engine.

The new USB one looks awesome.

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Originally posted by denys envy right! hence why i said "IF YOU ASK ME" because if you ask someone else... well they're likely to tell you something different... just as you have yourself right there... but no one's teaching you how to read rob. if there are any other parts of my sentence you'd like to skip over then go right ahead. to the original poster - i find things like EFX1000 and/or Ableton Live are capable of performing the same things as C-loops and quite a few more tricks and are a much better investment. but again - that's just me - you should try different equipment and figure out what's best for you. the local guitar center is gracious enough to have these things on display for me and let me try them out before i purchase anything. scope out stores like that nearby you and see if you can do the same.

Awww, did someone's feelings get hurt?

I'll be more sensitive next time, but I would really, really appreciate you pointing out what and/or how exactly I missed anything in your post. Always looking for ways to better myself, and I've gotta say - from my perspective, it just looks like you got a bit upset and needed to throw some kind of insult back at me to make up for it.

I'm sure I'm just confused again though.

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Originally posted by Clovis Auto beatmatch is useless on it imo, but I think the redsound one might have a better engine.

I didn't have any issues with it

The USB one does look sweet, I should look into that one...

ive used it a couple times. its fun

guys if you google "buy cycloops sampler" you really dont get any retailer results. I also dont see any on ebay. Where are you guys getting them from?

It usually goes under C-Loops now made by RedSound
there's also the PVDJ Grabber which is exactly the same thing.. seriosuly, just different branding

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