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Posted by hardcore trancer on May-10-2008 02:04:

Arrow Iran rejects nuclear inspections unless Israel allows them

Source:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505...nference_iran_1
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GENEVA - An Iranian envoy said Monday his government will not submit to extensive nuclear inspections while Israel stays outside the global treaty to curb the spread of atomic weapons.

"The existing double standard shall not be tolerated anymore by non-nuclear-weapon states," Ambassador Ali Asghar Soltanieh told a meeting of the 190 countries that have signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Nuclear safeguards are far from universal, he said, adding that more than 30 countries are still without a comprehensive safeguard agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency to ensure full cooperation with that U.N. body.

"Israel, with huge nuclear weapons activities, has not concluded" such an agreement or submitted its facilities to the IAEA's safeguards, Soltanieh said.

Israel, which does not discuss whether it has atomic weapons, did not sign the nonproliferation treaty, which requires all signatories except the major powers to refrain from obtaining nuclear arms. India and Pakistan, which have developed nuclear weapons, also are not signatories.

Iran did sign the treaty and is under U.N. Security Council sanctions meant to pressure the Tehran government into allowing inspections that will ensure it isn't developing nuclear weapons. Iran insists its atomic program is peaceful, with the sole goal of using reactors to generate electricity.

A U.S. envoy accused Iran of "provocative and destabilizing activities" and said its leaders were responsible for leading the country into the sanctions imposed by the Security Council.

"The path of defiance is also the path of isolation, of continuing and additional sanctions and of further stunted economic opportunities for a proud and sophisticated people already suffering from economic turmoil and mismanagement by its regime's leaders," said Christopher A. Ford, U.S. special representative for nuclear nonproliferation.

Ford said Iran joined North Korea and Syria in weakening the nonproliferation treaty.

"This treaty regime faces today the most serious tests it has ever faced: the ongoing nuclear weapons proliferation challenges presented by Iran, by North Korea and now by Syria," Ford said.

Ford cited U.S. intelligence that North Korea was helping Syria in "secretly constructing a nuclear reactor that we believe was not intended for peaceful purposes." Syria denied last week that it was working on an undeclared reactor, which purportedly was destroyed by an Israeli airstrike last September.

Soltanieh said nuclear-armed powers like the United States, Britain and France are practicing "nuclear apartheid" by denying or restricting peaceful atomic technology to countries like Iran.

"Access of developing countries to peaceful nuclear materials and technologies has been continuously denied to the extent that they have had no choice than to acquire their requirements for peaceful uses of nuclear energy, including for medical and industrial applications, from open markets," Soltanieh said.

This usually means the material is more expensive, poorer quality and less safe, he said.




It is about time for somebody to speak up about Israel's nuclear weapons.

the Iranians aren't stupid. Many might like to think of them as barbaric and intolerant, but they aren't stupid.


Posted by jerZ07002 on May-10-2008 02:08:

Re: Iran rejects nuclear inspections unless Israel allows them

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Source:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505...nference_iran_1



It is about time for somebody to speak up about Israel's nuclear weapons.

the Iranians aren't stupid. Many might like to think of them as barbaric and intolerant, but they aren't stupid.


if iran is to be believe that they would actually allow inspectors, which probably is not the case, the request is actually not unreasonable. although, i'm not sure what it would accomplish.


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-10-2008 02:21:

No matter what Iran does in the eye of the U.S they will always remain to be a terrorist nation.


Posted by Lemonad on May-10-2008 11:44:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
No matter what Iran does in the eye of the U.S they will always remain to be a terrorist nation.


I don't think it's Americas fault, its the terrorist nation Israels fault for blind sightings USA.

America used to be major friends with Iran, remember that.


Posted by Krypton on May-10-2008 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad

America used to be major friends with Iran, remember that.


Until the CIA launched a coup from the American embassy in 1953 ousting a democratically elected prime minister and installed the puppet government of the shah...Yea...What a great friend America turned out to be...


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-10-2008 18:27:

Bottom line the U.S simply doesnt understand middle east and they just never get it right,all they think about is regime change and oil.


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
I don't think it's Americas fault, its the terrorist nation Israels fault for blind sightings USA.

America used to be major friends with Iran, remember that.


Israel also used to be major friends with Iran until the fucked up Iranian Revolution of 1979.
Iran is controlled by religious extremists. Would be nice to see Iran's religious leader butchered to death in an Indiana prison


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Until the CIA launched a coup from the American embassy in 1953 ousting a democratically elected prime minister and installed the puppet government of the shah...Yea...What a great friend America turned out to be...


Nigga please! As if America didnt have the backing of France, the UK, and the Iranian elite in the 50s.
The US has also had a hand in other Middle Eastern politics, as did the USSR.
Stop blaming America and start blaming Iran and its fundamental regime. You're not fooling anyone with this victim card you're giving Iran.


Posted by Lemonad on May-11-2008 09:09:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Israel also used to be major friends with Iran until the fucked up Iranian Revolution of 1979.
Iran is controlled by religious extremists. Would be nice to see Iran's religious leader butchered to death in an Indiana prison


I can say the same about the Zionist terrorists in control of Israel.


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 10:37:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Israel also used to be major friends with Iran until the fucked up Iranian Revolution of 1979.


"fucked up Iranian Revolution"? were they fuckedup because they started standing up against American power?


quote:
Iran is controlled by religious extremists. Would be nice to see Iran's religious leader butchered to death in an Indiana prison



Just like how everyone would love to see the Bush admin getting blown up to pieces?


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 10:39:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles

Stop blaming America and start blaming Iran and its fundamental regime. You're not fooling anyone with this victim card you're giving Iran.



You are making it sound as of they are criminals,what have they done wrong exactly?they have never attacked or invaded any country,U.S. on the other hand has done alot of that.


Posted by Lemonad on May-11-2008 10:44:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
You are making it sound as of they are criminals,what have they done wrong exactly?they have never attacked or invaded any country,U.S. on the other hand has done alot of that.


I think Fox news is making him think otherwise.


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 10:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
I think Fox news is making him think otherwise.



I still cant believe how people even consider foxnews as a legit news organization.


Posted by LazFX on May-11-2008 13:37:


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
I can say the same about the Zionist terrorists in control of Israel.


Funny. The only governments which view Israel as zionist terrorists are the extreme religious countries in the Middle East. And what do you know both the EU and the US view those extreme religious countries as the real terrorist countries.
BTW, Iran's doing a bang up job of keeping the peace in Lebanon right now And has had a hand in making the situation in Iraq worse. But no, Iran's never done anything wrong

Gotta love the Iranian regime which restricts what you can and cant do. They have a thought police, an actual fasion police, and other backwards ass polices.

I'm definitely proud to be a zionist forward. You seem to be proud to be a religious extremist supporter. I'm sure people in Australia and Canada just love people like you


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX


Hmmmm, let's see. Nuclear technology was given to Israel by France in the 60s, and the UK nor the US had no problems with it.
Interesting how the Soviets didnt give any of the other countries in the Middle East that same technology.


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I still cant believe how people even consider foxnews as a legit news organization.


Iranian state news is sooo much more credible


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
I think Fox news is making him think otherwise.


Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, are all on the same page here as far as their views on Iran. Same goes for the news channels coming out of Canada and Australia


Posted by Krypton on May-11-2008 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
As if America didnt have the backing of France, the UK, and the Iranian elite in the 50s.


What does this backing by France, the UK, or Iranian elite (which is COMPLETELY WRONG) have to do with anything? Glad that you should include the UK and their Anglo-Persian Oil Company (BP), which Mr. Mosaddeq had nationalized....Hmmm...Is the picture coming together for your small brain to take in?

quote:
The US has also had a hand in other Middle Eastern politics, as did the USSR.


Awesome, what the fuck is your point?

quote:
Stop blaming America and start blaming Iran and its fundamental regime. You're not fooling anyone with this victim card you're giving Iran.


Now I see your motivation. You don't care about any grievances the Persians or Arabs might have against the Western Alliances. All you care about is maintaining the domination of the Middle East by the Western powers. Iran certainly is no victim anymore are they? They survived the CIA coup. They survived the tyranny of the western-backed shah. They even survived the brutality of a western backed invasion by Iraq. Now they are stronger than ever. And wankers such as yourself are afraid. You're afraid because their victory means the end of your notion that America is an invincible, morally justified, superpower. No, Iran is not a victim...The US embassy hostage crisis showed that when they shoved imperialism right back in their oppressors face.... Now go back to the hole wince you came...


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on May-11-2008 16:52:

Krypton, it is becoming increasingly clear that you advocate the use of violence against American citizens abroad. As mentioned in another thread, that is pretty troublesome.


Posted by Krypton on May-11-2008 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Krypton, it is becoming increasingly clear that you advocate the use of violence against American citizens abroad. As mentioned in another thread, that is pretty troublesome.


No no...If we invade/launch coup, destroy, and/or occupy a foreign country, how can I call resistance to such domination terrorism? How can I call the resistance terrorists? The term "terrorist" is now so overused, it has now become synonymous with anyone or country which is hostile to US/Israeli interests. So when imperialist sympathizers like mr. chrles say the Iranian Revolution was fucked up...I say to him...The years under the Shah are 100x more fucked up...and the Iranian Revolution rectified all that suffering...

I admitted I got carried away in the other thread...Our soldiers would not have to face a resistance movement if their role in the world was to act as an occupying power. Just because my country is now an occupying power in the world does not mean I will blindly support the "cause" of democratizing the Middle East...So I will try to concentrate on what we can do here in the West...Which is to disengage from Iraq, open up diplomatic channels with Iran and Syria, and hold Israel accountable for its secret nuclear program and subjugation of the Palestinians...Remember, that as long as the Palestinians are subjugated and humiliated, they will always resist and fight back, and so this cycle of Israel on Palestinian violence will never end...


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
All you care about is maintaining the domination of the Middle East by the Western powers.

Yup, that's all I care about. Each morning I wake up thanking my atheist god that the West is still number one.
Things in Iran are so controlled and hardlined that you prolly can't even view movies like Mary Poppins there.
Iran's extremist regime = one dimensional.
The seventy million people there have it so much better now with religious extremists in power as opposed to the Shah and the West Khomeini should have been executed in 1964 rather then be let out of prison. That bastard helped shape Iran into the backwards thinking society it is today.


Posted by Krypton on May-11-2008 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Yup, that's all I care about. Each morning I wake up thanking my atheist god that the West is still number one.


As you seemingly give all benefit of the doubt to your government...let me guess...you still think the surge has worked...

quote:
Things in Iran are so controlled and hardlined that you prolly can't even view movies like Mary Poppins there.
Iran's extremist regime = one dimensional.


What's it to you? Their government wouldn't be in power without popular support smart one...

What makes them extreme? They weren't responsible for 9/11. They helped us in Afghanistan. They kicked out the foreign domination of their government and economy in their own revolution. You don't know what extreme is...

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The seventy million people there have it so much better now with religious extremists in power as opposed to the Shah and the West


Their economy/government isn't in the hands of foreigners. And if you've ever actually done research on Iran (which is clear you haven't); Iran is one of the most cosmopolitan countries in the Middle East. They have everything you have here in the West. Different social order. Deal with it you arrogant POS!!

quote:
Khomeini should have been executed in 1964 rather then be let out of prison. That bastard helped shape Iran into the backwards thinking society it is today.


Backwards for not selling out right??


Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Things in Iran are so controlled and hardlined that you prolly can't even view movies like Mary Poppins there.
Iran's extremist regime = one dimensional.


Now you are really talking out of your ass,every single person in Iran has a satelite dish and every single person has access to Hollywood movies.You wouldnt know these things though since you never lives there.

quote:
The seventy million people there have it so much better now with religious extremists in power as opposed to the Shah and the West Khomeini should have been executed in 1964 rather then be let out of prison. That bastard helped shape Iran into the backwards thinking society it is today.


Backward thiking society just because they are standing upd against the U.S. bulsshit politics?or because they are going after nuclear technology? You dont think Pakistan,Israel arent backward thinking societies?


You must be extremly worried knowing that soon your new president Obama will be sitting and talking to these backward thinking countries like Iran?


Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 21:39:

I'm sure there's a Mons Venus and an Ybor City in every city in Iran.
And cosmopolitan? You mean like the ethnic mix of people in Tampa? A black and a growing Hispanic population? A White population from all parts of the US and Europe? Oh yeah, the resemblance to Tampa is just astounding.
Women in Tampa = very hot.
Women in Iran = who knows? Most of them aren't allowed to dress up like their Tampa counterparts.

Tampa Radio includes 2 Hip Hop stations, Bubba The Love Sponge is back on the radio (and thx to him 102.5 finally sounds good), a Modern Rock station, a hard Rock station, one of the country's most famous Top 40 stations, and a cool Public radio station.

Iran radio = crap, and is entirely controlled by the state. Definitely not diverse like the radio dial in Dubai, Beirut, and especially Istanbul.
EDM Club scene in Iran? Non existent. Definitely not like that of Tel Aviv, Sharam Al Sheikh, Dubai, or Istanbul.

American supermarkets vs. Iranian supermarkets? America wins hands down.
Car choices in America vs. Iran? America wins hands down.

Iran is anti-cosmopolitan. Oh yeah, I'm just so filled with envy right now

You know here in Nashville there's a big Kurdish population. Their views of Iran are very different from yours, and most of them could care less about Fox News.


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