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Posted by kotsy on May-10-2008 02:29:

Poutine Appreciation Thread

In the spirit of Ummie's salute to Quesedillas I decided to make a tribute to Canada's beloved poutine








Poutine
(Quebec French pronunciation - putsɪn) is a dish consisting of French fries topped with fresh cheese curds, covered with brown BBQ chicken gravy and sometimes other additional ingredients. The freshness of the curds is important as it makes them soft in the warm fries, without completely melting. It is a quintessential Canadian comfort food, especially but not exclusively among Qu�b�cois.

Poutine is a fast food staple in Canada; it is sold by many fast food chains (such as New York Fries and Harvey's) in the provinces, in small diners and pubs, as well as by roadside "poutine trucks" and "fries stands," commonly known as "casse-cro�tes" in Quebec. International chains like McDonald's, A&W, KFC and Burger King also sell mass-produced poutine across Canada, especially in Quebec. Popular Quebec restaurants that serve poutine include Chez Ashton (Quebec City), La Banquise (Montreal), Lafleur Restaurants, La Belle Province, Le Petit Qu�bec and Dic Ann's Hamburgers. Along with fries and pizza, poutine is a very common dish sold and eaten in high school cafeterias in Ontario, Quebec and Manitoba. It is also a very popular meal at ski resorts.


Origins
The dish originated in rural Quebec, Canada in the late 1950s and is now popular in parts of the country. Several Qu�b�cois communities claim to be the birthplace of poutine, including Drummondville (by Jean-Paul Roy), Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, and Victoriaville.The most popular tale is the one of Fernand Lachance, from Warwick, Quebec, which claims that poutine was invented in 1957, when a customer ordered fries while waiting for his cheese curds from the Kingsey cheese factory in Kingsey Falls (now in Warwick and bought by Saputo). Lachance is said to have exclaimed �a va faire une maudite poutine ("it will make a damn mess"), hence the name. The sauce was allegedly added later, to keep the fries warm longer. Linguists have found no occurrence of the word poutine with this meaning earlier than 1978.


Variations
There are many variations of poutine. A common variation, Italian poutine, substitutes the gravy with spaghetti sauce (a thick tomato and ground beef sauce, roughly analogous to Bolognese sauce), while another variation includes sausage slices.Greek poutine consists of shoestring fries topped with a warm Mediterranean vinaigrette, gravy and feta cheese. Newfie poutine consists of fries, dressing (similar to stuffing, but not moist) and gravy.

Some restaurants in Montreal offer poutine with such additions as bacon, or smoked meat, although these are not as common. Some such restaurants even boast a dozen or more variations of poutine. For instance, more upscale poutine with three-pepper sauce, Merguez sausage, foie gras or even caviar and truffle can be found.

Some named variations may not necessarily be prepared with the same ingredients in different establishments. For example, a variation called "poutine Galvaude" adds shredded turkey and green peas, similar to the typical Qu�b�cois "hot chicken" sandwich.

Some variations even eliminate the cheese altogether, but most French-speaking Qu�b�cois would call such a dish a "frites sauce" ("french fries with sauce") instead of poutine.

When ordering a fast food combination meal in Canada, you can very often pay extra to get your french fries replaced with a poutine.

In addition to Canada, poutine can also be found in many border regions of the United States, for example in northern New England. It is a popular item among small, privately-owned restaurants. In the state of Maine and in northwestern New Brunswick, poutine is frequently referred to as "mixed fries", "mix fry", or simply "mix", although the term "poutine" has been gaining in popularity in recent years, especially in Aroostook County. Residents sometimes pronounce the word "poo-tine", but most pronounce it "poot-tsien".

These regions offer further variations of the basic dish. Cheeses other than fresh curds are commonly used (most commonly mozzarella cheese), along with beef, brown or turkey gravy. In the county culture especially, a mixed fry can also come with cooked ground beef on top and is referred to as a hamburger mix, though this is popular than a regular mix. Diners in New York City and Long Island serve "cheese fries", using either American (processed) cheese or Mozzarella. New Jersey diners refer to the same dish as "disco fries" and serve it with brown gravy, almost exclusively using Mozzarella.


Etymologyp
The word poutine has a bewildering variety of meanings in French, and is of uncertin provenance. The online version of the Dictionnaire historique du fran�ais qu�b�cois lists 15 different meanings of poutine in Quebec and Acadian French, including, among various culinary senses, "a dessert made from flour or bread crumbs," like pudding in English. The word pouding, borrowed from the English pudding, is in fact a synonym in this sense. The pejorative meaning "fat person (especially a woman)" of poutine is believed to derive from the English pudding "a person or thing resembling a pudding" or "stout thick-set person".

In many uses of poutine, a relation to the English word pudding is uncertain. One of these additional meanings is "unappetizing mixture of various foods, usually leftovers," the meaning from which the name of the dish with fries is derived. (This sense may also have given rise to the meaning "complicated business, complex organization; group of operations whose management is difficult or problematic.")

While the Dictionnaire historique (under sense 1 of poutine) mentions the possibility that poutine is simply a francization of the word pudding, it suggests (under sense 9) that the form poutine was more likely inherited from dialects spoken in France, but that some of its meanings resulted from the later influence of the similar-sounding English word pudding. It cites the Proven�al forms poutingo "bad stew" and poutit� "hodgepodge" or "crushed fruit or foods"; poutringo "mixture of various things" in Languedocien; and poutringue, potringa "bad stew" in Franche-Comt�.

The Dictionnaire historique dates the word poutine in the meaning "fries with cheese and gravy" to 1978.


Poutine in politics
In a segment on the television series This Hour Has 22 Minutes during the 2000 American election, Rick Mercer convinced then-Governor of Texas George W. Bush that Canada's Prime Minister, Jean Chr�tien, was named Jean Poutine and that he was supporting Bush's candidacy. A few years later when Bush made his first official visit to Canada, he joked during a speech, "There's a prominent citizen who endorsed me in the 2000 election, and I wanted a chance to finally thank him for that endorsement. I was hoping to meet Jean Poutine." The remark was met with laughter and applause.

"Poutine" also happens to be the French spelling of Russian president Vladimir Putin's family name, and it is pronounced identically in French. This has given rise to some jokes and wordplay.[10]


Related dishes
While at first glance the dish may seem similar to American 'disco fries', poutine with melted cheese, shredded cheese, or cheese slices is not regarded as "genuine" poutine, which is served with curd cheese.

In New Brunswick, there is an earlier traditional Acadian dish known as poutine r�p�e, which is completely different from the "poutine qu�b�coise". The Acadian poutine is a ball of grated and mashed potato, salted, filled with chicken or pork in the centre, and boiled. The result is a moist greyish ball about the size of a baseball. It is commonly eaten with salt and pepper or brown sugar. It is believed to have originated from the German Kl��e, prepared by early German settlers who lived among the Acadians. Many other dishes, similar or not, are known by the same name.

Acadians of Western Nova Scotia feast on a similar dish which is called r�pure, or rappie pie in English. R�pure is baked in a pan in a hot oven, and is often served with molasses.

Chips and Gravy is a staple of the cheaper bistro style menus, in such places as Royal Canadian Legion and Workers Clubs, where the food offered would not be considered "fast food" but is still cheap and filling, especially for children. (The word "chips," commonly referring in the United States to flat, crunchy slices of potato, is a synonym for 'french fries' elsewhere in the English-speaking world).

In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips, cheese & gravy" for sale in a Chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese.

In Newfoundland and Labrador most non-national chain restaurants serve a traditional dish called CDG or chips, dressing and gravy. Dressing is a mixture of mainly white bread crumbs and savoury and is often referred to as stuffing outside of Newfoundland and Labrador. Chips, dressing and gravy is served much like poutine, except for the dressing substituting for the cheese. While loved by Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, the dish is not widely known of outside the province.


Posted by jchung52 on May-10-2008 02:30:

i tink there was a thread on this


Posted by jon jon on May-10-2008 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
i tink there was a thread on this


who cares, best thread ever


Posted by Yohan on May-10-2008 02:36:

Heart attack in a bowl, but I love it so much!


Posted by Intangible on May-10-2008 02:36:

OMG I WANT!!

Im such a cheese whore... lol anything with cheese and i need.

And cheese, fries and gravy...

Im soo hungry now

This place around the corner makes an italian poutine, i think i need to try it.







PS Quesadillas FTW!!!


Posted by DaRoZa on May-10-2008 02:42:

am i the only one in canada that thinks they're nasty?


Posted by kotsy on May-10-2008 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DaRoZa
am i the only one in canada that thinks they're nasty?


yes


Posted by Axer on May-10-2008 02:55:

extra cheese and extra gravy .......yum!


Posted by kotsy on May-10-2008 03:00:

Damn the restaurants that don't use cheese curds!!


Posted by jchung52 on May-10-2008 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
who cares, best thread ever


well apparently others have issues with repeat threads.

my contribution (2:10)


Posted by iant56 on May-10-2008 03:19:

this thread has totally changed my plans tonight...


Posted by Axer on May-10-2008 03:34:

have you guys ever tired a hot hamburger?


Posted by devnull on May-10-2008 03:38:

mmmm poutine, i miss it. ontario's poutines are meh!

soon enough ill be in qc and eat poutine for 2 weeks


Posted by Rook on May-10-2008 03:40:

why do the curds have to be soo big..?? half of them dont even melt.


Posted by Bertuzz on May-10-2008 04:18:

You haven't had poutine if you haven't been to La Banquise in Montreal. 24-hr poutine goodness!!!


Review:
This 24-hr hipster place has been a constant favorite of the reviewer, and for good reason. The number of poutines has grown in time, presently serving 22, including such great names as "T-Rex", "Kamikaze", and B.O.M (Bacon, onions and "merguez", sausages). I've had the small poutine Duotone ($5.00), which had ground beef and sauteed onions. During a more recent visit, the Bacon poutine ($8.00 for a large); recognizing that bacon, like foie gras, makes nearly anything better, this is nonetheless a relatively rare poutine add-in which should be a standard in every poutine loving kitchen. The smoky bacon added musky pork heft to what is already a very pleasant platter, and I highly recommend it. La Banquise is now the best, premier all-around poutine joint in Montreal. They offer the greatest variety, with the most imagination, 24 hours and seven days a week. It is a must-stop for anyone eating poutine in Quebec.


Posted by kotsy on May-10-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Axer
have you guys ever tired a hot hamburger?


fuck ya! love them too.
Texas Burger in Ajax makes amazing hot hamburgers!

quote:
Originally posted by Bertuzz
You haven't had poutine if you haven't been to La Banquise in Montreal. 24-hr poutine goodness!!!


Review:
This 24-hr hipster place has been a constant favorite of the reviewer, and for good reason. The number of poutines has grown in time, presently serving 22, including such great names as "T-Rex", "Kamikaze", and B.O.M (Bacon, onions and "merguez", sausages). I've had the small poutine Duotone ($5.00), which had ground beef and sauteed onions. During a more recent visit, the Bacon poutine ($8.00 for a large); recognizing that bacon, like foie gras, makes nearly anything better, this is nonetheless a relatively rare poutine add-in which should be a standard in every poutine loving kitchen. The smoky bacon added musky pork heft to what is already a very pleasant platter, and I highly recommend it. La Banquise is now the best, premier all-around poutine joint in Montreal. They offer the greatest variety, with the most imagination, 24 hours and seven days a week. It is a must-stop for anyone eating poutine in Quebec.


wow.. road trip anyone?


Posted by Intangible on May-10-2008 04:52:

Kotsy...

If I have a heart attack in the near future you are accountable.

I had to go out and get a poutine....


TA is becoming so influential to my diet...


Posted by kotsy on May-10-2008 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Intangible
Kotsy...

If I have a heart attack in the near future you are accountable.

I had to go out and get a poutine....


TA is becoming so influential to my diet...


lol
where did you get it from??


Posted by Axer on May-10-2008 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
fuck ya! love them too.
Texas Burger in Ajax makes amazing hot hamburgers!



Apparently, I served a lot of them

Damn, I'm starving now! Hot Hamburger and Chocolate caramel Shakes!


Posted by Pett on May-10-2008 07:55:

mmmmmmmmmmm bacon poutine......


Posted by chinamon on May-10-2008 08:45:

i love poutine.
so far, i think the best poutine that ive had in the gta are from new york fries and dangerous dans. i have yet to try a real poutine from quebec.


Posted by Intangible on May-10-2008 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i love poutine.
so far, i think the best poutine that ive had in the gta are from new york fries and dangerous dans. i have yet to try a real poutine from quebec.


New york fries make a good poutine.... yummmm


quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
lol
where did you get it from??



Well theres not many places you can get a poutine at 12am but when you have the craving..... Theres a small place around the corner of me the mostly sells chicken (chicken is delicious) and they make poutines. Last night was the first one I had from there... I wont be getting another.

I still feel all the cheese and fries siting in my stomach... bahhhh

time for a run


Posted by The Highroller on May-10-2008 12:44:

Mel's Diner is a good 24 hour Montr�al styled deli in the Annex. They even have poutine with shaved Montr�al smoked meat on top (which I used to be able to eat, but not anymore. WAY too heavy).

La Banquise sounds pretty damn good. I'll have to check that out next time I'm in Montr�al.


Posted by magikb on May-10-2008 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Bertuzz
You haven't had poutine if you haven't been to La Banquise in Montreal. 24-hr poutine goodness!!!



The last 2 times I have been to Montreal I have missed out on the Poutine.


Posted by I_Am_Vince on May-10-2008 15:13:

Costco has really good poutine for GTA area


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